You can’t even blame his stupidity on too many head knocks, as Bickley was as soft as **** whilst playing.Bicks: Grundy to Port, McAdam to Melbourne, X Duursma to Crows lol
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You can’t even blame his stupidity on too many head knocks, as Bickley was as soft as **** whilst playing.Bicks: Grundy to Port, McAdam to Melbourne, X Duursma to Crows lol
So you want to keep a guy who has done a "fair" job when he has had his hands held?I think Hinkley is irrelevant. Good coach, bad coach, it doesn't matter. I'm reminded of a scene from Martian Successor Nadesico:
Ruri : It's finished. It's a complete analysis of modern trends in captains. "Since the conclusion of the Second World War, no noteworthy captains have been recorded. In an age such as today when all aspects of combat have been systematically integrated into a comprehensive war strategy, the decisions made by the captain of one ship cannot elicit a reversal in the strategic flow of the events in a battle. The most important duty of a captain, then, is to be a figurehead - a symbolic representation of the warship. Previously, reliable-looking elderly men were popular, but recently there has been a marked increase in the number of younger, attractive male and female captains: a reflection of the contemporary need to motivate the youth with something sexy to look at."
Yurika : [faltering] That can't be right, Ruri. It's saying that it doesn't...
Megumi : [casually] It's saying that it doesn't matter who the captain is anymore.
The main role of the head coach in modern AFL football is to be a representative of the club and create the overall strategy of what the team is meant to focus on - while the line coaches are the ones that disseminate that strategy to the players. You focus your frustrations on Hinkley because you think he's in control. I say it's a shared responsibility across all the coaching staff, and when Hinkley has had decent assistants around him he's always done a fair job.
The reason why a head coach gets paid more than the assistants is because he is required to front up to the media before and after games, be available to speak to high level sponsors, report to the CEO, be involved in the recruitment of players and draftees etc. He does more, so he gets paid more.
I didn't bother to read the anime nonsense but there is a valid point here.I think Hinkley is irrelevant. Good coach, bad coach, it doesn't matter. I'm reminded of a scene from Martian Successor Nadesico:
Ruri : It's finished. It's a complete analysis of modern trends in captains. "Since the conclusion of the Second World War, no noteworthy captains have been recorded. In an age such as today when all aspects of combat have been systematically integrated into a comprehensive war strategy, the decisions made by the captain of one ship cannot elicit a reversal in the strategic flow of the events in a battle. The most important duty of a captain, then, is to be a figurehead - a symbolic representation of the warship. Previously, reliable-looking elderly men were popular, but recently there has been a marked increase in the number of younger, attractive male and female captains: a reflection of the contemporary need to motivate the youth with something sexy to look at."
Yurika : [faltering] That can't be right, Ruri. It's saying that it doesn't...
Megumi : [casually] It's saying that it doesn't matter who the captain is anymore.
The main role of the head coach in modern AFL football is to be a representative of the club and create the overall strategy of what the team is meant to focus on - while the line coaches are the ones that disseminate that strategy to the players. You focus your frustrations on Hinkley because you think he's in control. I say it's a shared responsibility across all the coaching staff, and when Hinkley has had decent assistants around him he's always done a fair job.
The reason why a head coach gets paid more than the assistants is because he is required to front up to the media before and after games, be available to speak to high level sponsors, report to the CEO, be involved in the recruitment of players and draftees etc. He does more, so he gets paid more.
What is a grand final?Ooh, oooh, I can play Port Adelaide Jeopardy too! The category is 'Port drafting and selection 'mis-takes':
One of the KPD Port Adelaide blooded during Ken Hinkley's tenure as coach.
"Who was Logan Austin?"
This was the reason why Port Adelaide never developed a KPD from the draft.
"What is a policy of selecting the best available player in late rounds?"
Jackson Trengove never played in defence after 2015 for this reason.
"What was he wasn't suited to playing a forward half territory game?"
And for the Daily Double, why do people on this board still obsess over this rubbish when our current list has made top four 3 out of the last 4 years, while still lumping it in with the failures of the 2013-2017 list when discussing the tenure of the coach.
"What is cognitive dissonance?"
Has not a track record of anythingIs out of favour @melbournefc player Brodie Grundy bound for the Harbour CityIts believed the @sydneyswans
have secured Grundy’s signature for a 1st round pick in the upcoming 2023 trade period
Exactly the type we should target for the Magpies top upsAnthony Munkara been delisted at Essendon always thought Essendon was bad spot for him to end up. Too early to give up on that talent.
Seems to have oodles of talent. Maybe just a bit immature when drafted and not well suited to life in a big city like Melbourne. I wouldn't be opposed to picking him up as a delisted free agent.Anthony Munkara been delisted at Essendon always thought Essendon was bad spot for him to end up. Too early to give up on that talent.
I'm confused you said Hinkley's irrelevant and then proceed to explain how relevant his job is?I think Hinkley is irrelevant. Good coach, bad coach, it doesn't matter. I'm reminded of a scene from Martian Successor Nadesico:
Ruri : It's finished. It's a complete analysis of modern trends in captains. "Since the conclusion of the Second World War, no noteworthy captains have been recorded. In an age such as today when all aspects of combat have been systematically integrated into a comprehensive war strategy, the decisions made by the captain of one ship cannot elicit a reversal in the strategic flow of the events in a battle. The most important duty of a captain, then, is to be a figurehead - a symbolic representation of the warship. Previously, reliable-looking elderly men were popular, but recently there has been a marked increase in the number of younger, attractive male and female captains: a reflection of the contemporary need to motivate the youth with something sexy to look at."
Yurika : [faltering] That can't be right, Ruri. It's saying that it doesn't...
Megumi : [casually] It's saying that it doesn't matter who the captain is anymore.
The main role of the head coach in modern AFL football is to be a representative of the club and create the overall strategy of what the team is meant to focus on - while the line coaches are the ones that disseminate that strategy to the players. You focus your frustrations on Hinkley because you think he's in control. I say it's a shared responsibility across all the coaching staff, and when Hinkley has had decent assistants around him he's always done a fair job.
The reason why a head coach gets paid more than the assistants is because he is required to front up to the media before and after games, be available to speak to high level sponsors, report to the CEO, be involved in the recruitment of players and draftees etc. He does more, so he gets paid more.
Irrelevant to gameday strategy the way this board pretends he is. It’s always been a team effort.I'm confused you said Hinkley's irrelevant and then proceed to explain how relevant his job is?
This is illogical
I'm a Jonas supporter, he is completely unfairly maligned on this board, particularly his intercept marking which I see him as great to elite at, where as most of the board seem to think he's bad at.
But in 2022 and 2023, he's fallen off.
I'm a Jonas supporter, he is completely unfairly maligned on this board, particularly his intercept marking which I see him as great to elite at, where as most of the board seem to think he's bad at.
But in 2022 and 2023, he's fallen off.
Especially as we usually get our ground hog drop to 10th post Hinkley extension.Honestly if we could work something like Duursma for Grundy and Melbourne's second rounder, one of Melbourne and Collingwood's second rounders off for Esava and the other for BZT, I wouldn't hate it. Or some other combination of those players and clubs that works for everyone. Duursma + a late second for those three players isn't a bad price to pay. I'd definitely rather deal Duursma than the future first.
I am a huge fan of his potential. Would love him at the club.Anthony Munkara been delisted at Essendon always thought Essendon was bad spot for him to end up. Too early to give up on that talent.
We also have a future 2nd. Why do we need to turn Duursma or a first round pick into 2nd round picks?Honestly if we could work something like Duursma for Grundy and Melbourne's second rounder, one of Melbourne and Collingwood's second rounders off for Esava and the other for BZT, I wouldn't hate it. Or some other combination of those players and clubs that works for everyone. Duursma + a late second for those three players isn't a bad price to pay. I'd definitely rather deal Duursma than the future first.
Because we only have two second rounders (Collingwood 23 and Port 24) but we want three players and realistically we won't get any one of them for less than a second rounder.We also have a future 2nd. Why do we need to turn Duursma or a first round pick into 2nd round picks?
Because we only have two second rounders (Collingwood 23 and Port 24) but we want three players and realistically we won't get any one of them for less than a second rounder.
The alternative is just abandon BZT, which I'd be very happy with, but assuming we're going for all three something has to give.
You can talk about what we 'should' do all you like but in reality we're not getting any one of those players for a third and you know it.We absolutely should be getting them for the picks we have.
We shouldn’t pay more than a 3rd for Grundy and his contract at 29.
His value has only decreased since melb paid a 2nd for him.
We offered a 2nd for esava when he was contracted. We should only have a 3rd on the table.
And the going rate for a bog average key defender like zerk should be around a 3rd.
We have pies 2nd, freos 3rd, future 3rd and mead who should be on the table.
That should be more than enough easily.
But I can’t speak to what port will do.
Sunk cost fallacy worries me with the club now so invested in Ken.
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Terribly underrating Ebert here!Yeah, I love the idea of Duursma but get the strong feeling his absolute ceiling is Brad Ebert mk II - a pretty good role player that you don't dislike in your team, but wouldn't really miss if they were gone.