Review Positives and Negatives vs Demons

[The_Gambler]

There’s been a recent trend of new or posters thats rarely post that jump on here to only post negative feedback about the playing group or coach.

theres been a trend of negative performance from the playing group and coach.

…bro you joined a year ago

 

[Bender_]

theres been a trend of negative performance from the playing group and coach.

…bro you joined a year ago

Avishka = The A5

 

[Bender_]

There’s been a recent trend of new or posters thats rarely post that jump on here to only post negative feedback about the playing group or coach.

It happens every loss for years. People are more motivated to use the forum by failure.

 

[GlennTwenty]

i struggle to identify anything positive that Simpson is doing, anywhere he’s improving. Can you? If you can rack them up against his limitations and weaknesses.

then do the same for the fitness and conditioning guys.

sorry if I’m offending any of your favorites, objectively there needs to be change. This is business not charity

Actually it isn't a business - the Eagles are owned by the West Australian Football Commission and their aims are the promotion of football not profit.

Either way, if you struggle to identify anything positive about any of the coaching staff, support staff or the team then maybe you'd be better off in purple. It's not about offending favorites, its about being happy - don't you want to be happy?

Or maybe switch to netball, West Coast Fever are winning everything at the minute (as long as you are happy with salary cap rorts and the rest of the league hating you - winning is everything at the end of the day).

 

[Eaglemaniac]

I believe The_Gambler is advocating that we.. roll the dice.

I thought The Gambler said you need to know when to fold...

 

[The_Gambler]

Actually it isn't a business - the Eagles are owned by the West Australian Football Commission and their aims are the promotion of football not profit.

Either way, if you struggle to identify anything positive about any of the coaching staff, support staff or the team then maybe you'd be better off in purple. It's not about offending favorites, its about being happy - don't you want to be happy?

Or maybe switch to netball, West Coast Fever are winning everything at the minute (as long as you are happy with salary cap rorts and the rest of the league hating you - winning is everything at the end of the day).

yes winning is what professional sport is about. That’s why people get paid ridiculous amounts of money and train year round. It’s not a voluntary position and you represent 100K paying members. It’s not auskick.

Maybe you go support mediocrity or maybe tell me why Simpson is so fantastic? I wonder if he tells the players after a match, don’t worry winning isn’t important

don’t think the tripe being dished up is promoting football much either

 

[HoneyBadger35]

He is the almost polar opposite of Chris Scott who was hyper-adaptive confusing his team at times and cost his team a few flags. saying that, he is still performing better than Simmo with a list he has making more PF and being in Dynasty contention.

I see we’ve reached the “Chris Scott has cost his team flags and therefore is a good coach” argument again.

I wasn’t talking about any of that but go off. I was just saying if we can’t expect an overhauled gameplan to catch on in one offseason, how is the answer get a new coach to overhaul the gameplan in one offseason?

anyway.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

No fitness staff left, its proven with their soft tissue injuries this year and repeat injuries to players. Should never have cut the department that actually gets them on the field each week. Would rater save money for mates in '' assistant coach '' roles. Joke.

That clearly is not the case, and any cuts to the footy department have been made due to the AFL slashing the soft cap. Clubs with cash (like us) can’t spend money because clubs who need propping up (like your mob) think it’s unfair.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

there needs to be widespread cultural change within the club of hard work, no excuses and dedication to excellence.

We are the most successful club of the AFL era, the only discussion that is worth having there is maybe whether Hawks pip us to that post and they had to stave off a merger just to survive for a decade there. Dedication to excellence - jeez, tough crowd.

There are players running around in the AFL who were two years old when Essendon last won a final. Carlton have played four finals in 20 years. Fremantle are Fremantle. Richmond went well for four years on the heels of 30 years of embarrassment.

Nobody needs to love where we are today but ****ing lol at dedication to excellence. 17 clubs would trade our existence for theirs.

Who would you rather be? Not as of today going forward, I mean since we’ve kicked a footy for the first time, who would you rather be?

 

[The_Gambler]

We are the most successful club of the AFL era, the only discussion that is worth having there is maybe whether Hawks pip us to that post and they had to stave off a merger just to survive for a decade there. Dedication to excellence - jeez, tough crowd.

There are players running around in the AFL who were two years old when Essendon last won a final. Carlton have played four finals in 20 years. Fremantle are Fremantle. Richmond went well for four years on the heels of 30 years of embarrassment.

Nobody needs to love where we are today but ******* lol at dedication to excellence. 17 clubs would trade our existence for theirs.

Who would you rather be? Not as of today going forward, I mean since we’ve kicked a footy for the first time, who would you rather be?

January time trial. You could be confused that this was a year 8 school cross country how slow most are running. This is 4 months since the last game, the writing was really on the wall there. You watch and tell me how many players had committed to 4 months of excellence? Looks more like 4 months of comfort.

 

[Bender_]

January time trial. You could be confused that this was a year 8 school cross country how slow most are running. This is 4 months since the last game, the writing was really on the wall there. You watch and tell me how many players had committed to 4 months of excellence? Looks more like 4 months of comfort.

Just FYI, players have to have a mandatory 6 week break at the conclusion of their season, as well as the Christmas break. They don't finish the last game and start training for the next season come Monday.

 

[RookiePick]

January time trial. You could be confused that this was a year 8 school cross country how slow most are running. This is 4 months since the last game, the writing was really on the wall there. You watch and tell me how many players had committed to 4 months of excellence? Looks more like 4 months of comfort.

The entire video was in slo-mo. Now I'm not sure if you have a brain injury or are a comedic genius.

 

[Bender_]

Also lol at using a slow-mo puff piece video as proof of fitness.

 

[ziad]

Actually it isn't a business - the Eagles are owned by the West Australian Football Commission and their aims are the promotion of football not profit.

Either way, if you struggle to identify anything positive about any of the coaching staff, support staff or the team then maybe you'd be better off in purple. It's not about offending favorites, its about being happy - don't you want to be happy?

Or maybe switch to netball, West Coast Fever are winning everything at the minute (as long as you are happy with salary cap rorts and the rest of the league hating you - winning is everything at the end of the day).

That may be the WAFC's aim but the Eagles management shows much wider societal aim.

 

[The_Gambler]

Just FYI, players have to have a mandatory 6 week break at the conclusion of their season, as well as the Christmas break. They don't finish the last game and start training for the next season come Monday.

they can if they want to. Go read what Michael Braun would do. You want success, you go chase it

 

[The_Gambler]

The entire video was in slo-mo. Now I'm not sure if you have a brain injury or are a comedic genius.

dude look at the form, guys are almost walking

 

[Bender_]

they can if they want to. Go read what Michael Braun would do. You want success, you go chase it

No they can't, it's a Players Association mandated break. Michael Braun 20 years ago over-training doesn't happen anymore.

 

[The_Gambler]

No they can't, it's a Players Association mandated break. Michael Braun 20 years ago over-training doesn't happen anymore.

the afl doesn’t put a ball and chain around players ankles, doesn’t tie them to a couch, doesn’t force feed them cans of beer… if a player wants to lift weights, run, they can do what the hell they like. Autonomy. Why do you clubs put a time trial on the first day back for training?

 

[bh90210fan]

they can if they want to. Go read what Michael Braun would do. You want success, you go chase it

Interestingly, Braun is only just as successful as our current crop. It’s like some people think winning flags should be a walk in the park

 

[Bender_]

the afl doesn’t put a ball and chain around players ankles, doesn’t tie them to a couch, doesn’t force feed them cans of beer… if a player wants to lift weights, run, they can do what the hell they like. Autonomy.

You were blaming the club. Now you're blaming the players. Get your story straight.

 

[The_Gambler]

You were blaming the club. Now you're blaming the players. Get your story straight.

players and club. Who do you think gives the players programs when they’re away from the club? But players should have their own motivation to train and succeed. If you are relying on the club, I’m surprised you made the AFL to begin with. There’s a thing called the draft camp. I doubt there’s the culture within the club for players to push each other. Pretty obvious why we can’t run out a game and why we have so many soft tissue injuries. Why does this offend you? Do you think we are super fit abs amazing?

 

[squashface]

players and club. Who do you think gives the players programs when they’re away from the club? But players should have their own motivation to train and succeed. If you are relying on the club, I’m surprised you made the AFL to begin with. There’s a thing called the draft camp. I doubt there’s the culture within the club for players to push each other. Pretty obvious why we can’t run out a game and why we have so many soft tissue injuries. Why does this offend you? Do you think we are super fit abs amazing?

Do you enjoy anything about this club or the AFL in general? Seems like every single one of your posts has some sort of whinge factor. Sit back and watch football and hope your team (supposedly West Coast) kicks more goals than the opposition, pretty basic stuff.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

No they can't, it's a Players Association mandated break. Michael Braun 20 years ago over-training doesn't happen anymore.

This is not correct. The players mandated break is from the club and it's processes. If the player chooses to go for a jog or a hard run every day or every third day to stay in good shape there is nothing that stops him doing this on his break unless he is on a rehab program.
You don't seriously think these guys sit on the couch for 6 weeks do you?

 

[The_Gambler]

Do you enjoy anything about this club or the AFL in general? Seems like every single one of your posts has some sort of whinge factor. Sit back and watch football and hope your team (supposedly West Coast) kicks more goals than the opposition, pretty basic stuff.

that pretty much all that Simpson is doing, now I can try to

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Using Braun as an example of what to do on the training track made me snort out my Chardonnay:

The worst verbal sprays Michael Braun

Michael Braun

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46

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175cm

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77kg

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17.9

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10.1

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7.8

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4.1

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2.4

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15.0

4star

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9.6

4star

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5.4

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M

3.0

3star

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2.0

4star

cops these days are not from opponents, not from Eagles coaches, but from the club's fitness trainers. And the abuse comes not from trying to get Braun to do more, rather it is to stop him from doing too much.

His football renaissance this season has coincided with him moderating a training regime that was so fanatical it started to break his body down.

These days, when West Coast's sports science manager, Glen Stewart, or fitness coach Stuart Cormack notice Braun doing extra work in the gym, they throw him out.

"It is to the point of going in there and, while I wouldn't say we man-handle him, there is certainly loud abuse," Stewart said with a chuckle yesterday.

He and Fraser Gehrig would sneak into the gym and do extra weights and he would often linger in the gym up to an hour after team weight sessions. The result was a bigger but increasingly fatigued body and patella tendonitis. And that in turn fuelled his unhealthy obsession with hard work.

"Come game time I wanted to get back to the form of the previous year and I just couldn't, physically," he said. "I started to get down on myself because I thought everyone would have thought my 1999 was a fluke or that I couldn't play.

"Good players back their seasons up. I couldn't do it physically and I had a bit of trouble accepting that."

This presented Eagles fitness staff with a strange problem. "He has this great burning desire to succeed and be the best player that he can be," Stewart said. "But he also believed that more was necessarily better, rather than doing the appropriate amount to make him better."

Gym junkie Braun doing less to do more on field

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