Richmond - time for a rebuild?

[BigVic]

The Tigers won 3 flags in 4 years from 2017-2020 and missed finals in 2021 as well as narrowly losing an EF by under a kick in 2022. In the offseason Richmond landed Taranto and Hopper thinking they'll win the flag and remain contenders.

Now they're 16th after a loss to Gold Coast

With stars like Dusty, Riewoldt and co not getting any younger and over 30s, should Richmond rebuild?

 

[Outtatym]

No first round pick makes it hard. Not sure they need a full rebuild more a reload (replace the old boys)...They need to get on with it before the compromised drafts hit either way

 

[BigVic]

Traded their future first as part of the Taranto/Hopper deal which will set them back for years

 

[lionsrules]

Bottom 3 have won 7 of the last 10 premierships.

 

[PhatBoy]

what would make this hard from a Tigers perspective is that they aren’t producing the sort of uncompetitive football that you get accustomed to seeing from teams ready to rebuild: they’ve competed in basically every game they’ve played to at least some extent so an optimistic coach would look at it and say that they only need a few tweaks and things can be on the up again.

They really haven’t been THAT bad though I didn’t watch today

 

[captain blood 17]

We've been rebuilding on the run for the last 3 or 4 years. This last off season was the first time we have traded first round draft picks for years.
Taranto and Hopper aren't the issues currently. They're playing pretty well. I think the drain on IP and the quality of coaches which we have lost in the last 4 years is a massive issue for us.
The positive in the mess of season 2023 is we are getting games into the kids like Ryan, Miller, MRJ etc etc. An injury and suspension list of 14 players hasn't helped the cause. But that's no excuse for today. Today was shizer.

 

[Wojcinski]

4th oldest list in the league without any stand out young talent aside from Bolton. Don't own their first rounder this year so rebuilding is going to be a painful few years away

 

[My Tilly]

Their midfield is one dimensional. God help them when Prestia returns.
Hopper, Taranto, Ross, McIntosh . . . there is no polish or finesse in there.
Add in cooked blokes like Martin, Cotchin & Pickett, tough times ahead.

 

[SSSSSS]

At least when we got JOM and Tom we made it to the top 4.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

They got West Coast at the G next week. Just what the doctor ordered, if you ask me

 

[Foucault1989]

4th oldest list in the league without any stand out young talent aside from Bolton. Don't own their first rounder this year so rebuilding is going to be a painful few years away

Bolton's not young. He was 2016 draft I think? Correct me if I'm wrong

 

[Black Panther]

Richmond 2023 = Essendon 2005

 

[Wojcinski]

Bolton's not young. He was 2016 draft I think? Correct me if I'm wrong

you're right, turns 25 this year. Doesn't look good for the Tigers future

 

[Foucault1989]

The introduction of Tasmania into the AFL could come at a bad time for Richmond in terms of a rebuild. I think they've got 2 - 3 years of being a competitive mid range team before they bottom out and have to rebuild in several heavily compromised drafts.

 

[PrinceCharles]

Definitely a bit of Hawthorn before their rebuild about them.

 

[Foucault1989]

Definitely a bit of Hawthorn before their rebuild about them.

Deranged coach vibes as well.

 

[Power Raid]

richmond should start a 1981 type rebuild

#thegoodolddays

 

[rye]

have some good young pieces. should come right in 3-4 years. more interesting thing is i think dimma has stated he has no intention of hanging around for a rebuild. wonder if he goes to another team at the end of this year.

 

[MisterMarcus]

They've tried to squeeze every last drop from the orange while the Old Guard were still around.

They're not the first team to do this, and they won't be the last.

But 16th on the ladder with one of the older lists in the comp means they need to be realistic about where they're at now.

 

[BigPond101]

have some good young pieces. should come right in 3-4 years. more interesting thing is i think dimma has stated he has no intention of hanging around for a rebuild. wonder if he goes to another team at the end of this year.

Freo should move heaven and earth to get him

 

[juss]

They got West Coast at the G next week. Just what the doctor ordered, if you ask me

At best paper over the cracks and buys Dimma more time and less heat. Not what we need right now. Sadly we need a coach killer loss and a new voice.

IMO that's more important in our situation than the players on the list.

I'd like to see what a new voice, plan and some fresh enthusiasm around the place could get out of the crop of decent and upcoming players we have.

 

[HTPunter]

There’s a few I’d keep - Grimes, Martin, Nank - but Cotchin shouldn’t play another game. He’s not up to it.

Riewoldt gets to play out the year because his presence helps.

Cotchin is just in the ****ing way

 

[juss]

Hasn't Dimma said he'll step away when the Tiges are no longer in contention?

You might not need to sack him, he might walk away of his own accord.

He's said that. But that relies on him not being stubborn and actually reading the signs. We aren't winning with him and his approach again.

It's clear there's a need for change. There's no shame in that, Sheedy, Matthews, Clarkson, it happens to all successful coaches.

 

[adammania9]

They were taking the piss getting Hopper and Taranto. Anyone could see that would be overkill. One would have been plenty. They overpaid for both as well.

 

[Philhawk]

Without the picks to rebuild, it won't be a fun next half decade for Tigers fans.