Game Day Round 12 vs. Western Bulldogs, Marvel, 7:40pm Friday 31/05

[danielnajdek]

If Bont was out too, I'd probably agree with them.

He did have scans early in the week but looks like his fine.

 

[Jen2310]

I don't get it. Isn't it a 12-day break after a concussion? Does he still have symptoms or is the concussion protocol now longer than 12 days?

The 12 days start from when you have no symptoms so maybe he started the protocols a few days later and so behind schedule


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Waiting for sideswipe to enter the chat

Currently in the protocols myself. Slapped my forehead in exasperation one too many times.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Ins: howe, markov, Krueger, Macrae/Bytel.
Outs: cox, Mihocek, Pendles and Allan.
I thought Parker’s debut was a standout and hope he gets another run at it. A full game if the tank is there.

2 premiership players coming in is a positive which has been overlooked.

 

[danielnajdek]

2 premiership players coming in is a positive which has been overlooked.

Yeah and 3 going out..... One being our best player ever.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Currently in the protocols myself. Slapped my forehead in exasperation one too many times.

Do your protocols start today? Or tomorrow? Or when you have no symptoms?

 

[riddick78]

B: Quaynor - Frampton - Maynard
HB: Markov - Moore - Nobel
C: Sidebottom - Beau - J. Daicos
HF: Lipinski - Howe - HH
FF: Schultz - Kreuger - Bobby
RR: Cameron - Nick - Crisp

INT: Sullivan - Dean - Ash - Bytel

Sub: Parker


*Forgot Bobby lol

That side isn't too bad, the fwd50 is a bit questionable, but unpredictable. Sure the Doggies have some important outs, but Bevo can't even get the best out of those players when they are in the side.

BTW it's not Nobel, it's Johnny F&*king Noble.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I'm just imagining his exasperation is at an all time high that this 11 days/12 days conversation is still going on. I'm sure he thought he'd already sorted it out..

It’s going to be one of those “forever” conversations, like when people like to argue that a player doesn’t have a fracture, they have a break, or that someone suffering a single concussion has to watch out for symptoms of CTE.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Yeah and 3 going out..... One being our best player ever.

We know who is out, let's not undermine those coming in though.

 

[memoryofmchale]

Could the Saad bloke from Bullants come straight in for a debut

No. Has no idea of our system or style. It would be nearly impossible.

 

[Kes1984]

Forwards unavailable:

McStay
Mihocek
Cox
Elliott
WHE
Richards
Reef

Mids unavailable:

De Goey
Mitchell
Pendlebury

anyone else feeling sick in the pit of their stomach?

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

It’s going to be one of those “forever” conversations, like when people like to argue that a player doesn’t have a fracture, they have a break, or that someone suffering a single concussion has to watch out for symptoms of CTE.

And the strain not a tear argument

 

[The Royal Sampler]

The 12 days start from when you have no symptoms so maybe he started the protocols a few days later and so behind schedule


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Not really. The protocol doesn’t necessarily take 11 days to complete. 11 days is just the minimum time off.

Imagine he had COVID and had to stay out for 11 days and have no symptoms on return. That doesn’t mean it takes 11 days to be symptom-free.

 

[danielnajdek]

We know who is out, let's not undermine those coming in though.

It's a bit hard to feel positive after the week we've had with injuries.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

And the strain not a tear argument

Yup, you got it.

 

[Tharazero1]

My ins and outs:

Out: Cox, Mihocek, Richards, Pendlebury, Allan

In: Howe, Krueger, Markov, Macrae, Bytel or Johnson (depending which way you want to go)

Starting Sub: Parker

Everything else the same

 

[domus]

The 12 days start from when you have no symptoms so maybe he started the protocols a few days later and so behind schedule


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Thanks, Jen. A couple of posters explained how it works. You learn something every day.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

It's a bit hard to feel positive after the week we've had with injuries.

Agreed, but some are making out all our ins are going to be players from our vfl list who have never played footy.

 

[nahnah]

Go take a gander at the Bullies board.
Most are concerned about this game because they believe their outs are far more significant than ourselves.

They have quite a few outs but that is still laughable. We are missing our first 4 choice key forwards, 4 of our 6 first choice forwards plus our first 2 back up forward options.
We are also missing 3 of our top 4 clearance mids

 

[memoryofmchale]

Not really. The protocol doesn’t necessarily take 11 days to complete. 11 days is just the minimum time off.

Imagine he had COVID and had to stay out for 11 days and have no symptoms on return. That doesn’t mean it takes 11 days to be symptom-free.

Not a good comparison. Just because he’s symptom free does not mean he has healed for what of a better word.

Two weeks or three in local level has been recommended by neurologists. Read more of their work for why.

 

[LuckyLee]

Bulldogs will win this with a massive asterisk next to the W. Couldn't seriously take a win in this game and think that you're a better side than the depleted opposition...

It’s four points to the winner regardless of absentees and asterisks.


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[Knoxy]

One positive about the injury list is who isn't on it - Pendles.

Yeah about that... ☹

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

Despite his woeful start to the season and middling form in VFL (from what I can gather) we do need AJ's height in offensive, even if he just brings the ball to ground. Feels NQR to pull Billy Frampton

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Billy Frampton

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27

Ht

201cm

Wt

100kg

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Def

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9.1

2star

K

5.1

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HB

4.0

3star

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3.1

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T

0.7

3star

MG

99.0

2star

D

8.5

2star

K

4.8

2star

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3.8

3star

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3.5

3star

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0.5

1star

MG

99.0

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9.2

3star

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5.6

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3.6

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107.0

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forward, even if Howe returns, and at least AJ has had some backline experience if things went south during the game.

Macrae has enough experience to run out the game. Markov back can maybe release JFN to the wing and push Sidey in for some stoppage work?

Hoo boy. This is going to be some car crash - for both teams - watching on Friday night.

 

[LuckyLee]

Get the feeling this is now the straw that will break the camels back.

As unbelievable as our system is, no system can fully compensate for a total breakdown in experience and class we're missing across all lines.

No other team gets close to Freo last week assuming they have the commensurate amount of injuries we had (including Syd).
That's including the in game losses as well.

Add to this further spate of injuries and the mental demons for the players will have to subconsciously kick in if the dogs get a hot start.
Win for Jacqui this week if we run them close!!

If we get over the line, says more about the bulldogs than it does about us.

Keen to see us fight it out, but think this one is a bridge to far.
Its not who you play....but when you play them that often defines the season.

Yep, youthful enthusiasm can only get us so far in trying to replace a huge loss of experience, class and chemistry.

I think we’re past the tipping point, with nearly half of our Premiership side missing on Friday night.


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[LuckyLee]

Ins: howe, markov, Krueger, Macrae/Bytel.
Outs: cox, Mihocek, Pendles and Allan.
I thought Parker’s debut was a standout and hope he gets another run at it. A full game if the tank is there.

You forgot Richards in the OUTs.


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