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Watching the GWS game in the 2nd half today, the words of our most successful player - not necessarily best, but 9 premierships makes him our most successful - kept flooding the front of my mind.
After his retirement Motley said: “We played on the basis that we could not possibly let down the followers of the Port Adelaide Football Club - the greatest gift we could give them was a premiership.”
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This 'hurt my feelings' garbage has been permeating from the club for years & Ken has played a major role in enabling this. Boak was also a leader in this regard. Do the players understand this is elite level football with elite level wages & therefore we should get elite level resilience. It's not U5s at the local park.THAT BANNER HURT MY FEELS REEEEEE
No wonder the club has zero resilience.
I watch Sydney, then I watch us, and I can't believe how powerful Sydney's runners are compared to ours. Even our allegedly quick players: McEntee, DBJ, Farrel, Burgoyne et al can't get real separation or burn their opponent on the fast break.McEntee & Evans didn't even bother me yesterday they were trying they are just state leaguers that shouldn't be anywhere near an AFL list.
He's really only 18 months into being a defender there was no continuity at the Cats, I think I'd like to see him under a different coach like a gazillion others before making a real judgement.
I'm seeing him under a shit coachYou are seeing him under a different coach
I'm with you. Our midfield is a huge concern. They aren't as good as they are promoted to be, and they are supremely susceptible to some bodywork and perceived pressure. If a side goes defensive in the middle, they just pressure us until we turn it over, or they just capitalise on the long bombs to our forwards.It's actually a great call but people just don't want to see it.
McEntee gives relentless effort and never shirks the contest - a totally separate discussion from his skill level or lack thereof.
Butters is becoming increasingly conditional in his approach to the contest. He is a player who believes his own hype. He needs to get back to what made him a great player and that was a dog hungry attack on the football and strong effort at every contest. Without that he's an average undersized AFL midfielder with tidy skills and that's about it.
yeah m8, me being slightly agitated from a disrespectful banner after a pathetic loss is the problem.Out inability to deal with criticism (internal and external) is a massive part of the problem.
The real Port Adelaide would laugh at the banner and say "see you in finals **** head".
This Port Adelaide just cries in the corner.
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shhh not allowed to say that. It was an amazing banner and everyone must agree.Commentators mentioned it referred to Ken from Barbie. Bizarre.
Rozee only had 14 touches today. Prior to the St Kilda game he looked as though he was in career best form. Comes into the showdown carrying a hamstring injury and the rest is history.
The players deserve none of the blame for the overall loser culture, that is all on the coach and other senior leaders. Blaming the players is like blaming a poorly trained dog for its bad behaviour. They don't know any better.
Like to coach?I beg to differ. It’s easy to keep your head down & just go with the flow, but it takes real courage to stand alone & say the things others don’t want to hear. That’s what a leader does, & that’s what is lacking amongst the players.
I agree with you, Rozee should never have been made Captain. He’s a very marketable, skilful player, but that’s where it ends for me. If the next coach had any brains he would single out JHF, look him in the eyes & tell him “I don’t care about your age, or lack of experience, because you know & I know that come hell or high water, you were born to lead this club to its next Premiership. The players right now need someone to show them the way, they need someone to believe in, & that person is you. You put the flag in the ground & they’ll follow you to the ends of earth. Let’s get it done son”.
It changes a lot when you compare what it was 40-50 years ago when winning was the be all and end all and players and administrators basically got zero reward apart from the ultimate glory.American sports are business. Still, they have well-run and bad-run organizations. The well-run ones play for their supporters; care about winning.
Being a business changes nothing.
My background is soccer. The game has been professional for almost a century. It didn’t change anything.It changes a lot when you compare what it was 40-50 years ago when winning was the be all and end all and players and administrators basically got zero reward apart from the ultimate glory.
I'm seeing him under a shit coach
And as I said he's been a defender for the best part of 18 monthsYou saw him under Chriss Scott too..
Yeah you can’t expect 6 year old kids to kick a footy 30m between two goal posts 6.4m apart.The players deserve none of the blame for the overall loser culture, that is all on the coach and other senior leaders. Blaming the players is like blaming a poorly trained dog for its bad behaviour. They don't know any better.
Yeah you can’t expect 6 year old kids to kick a footy 30m between two goal posts 6.4m apart.
There not professional sportsman on hundreds of thousands a year who’ve being playing the game all there life.
Poor little tackers
And as I said he's been a defender for the best part of 18 months
Football hasn’t been Professional for that long, a lot of posters here can remember players just played for the love of the game and the club.My background is soccer. The game has been professional for almost a century. It didn’t change anything.
“Any club worth its salt…” is true for professionals and amateurs alike.
I'm not giving him any outs I said he could be an adequate defender that's hardly high praise.Think you're giving him too many outs
He's a decent-good player but will probably never be more than that at the age of 25 now.
He still has not rectified any of the main criticisms he had when drafted
You can’t kick you can’t play, you trying to sell a different coach will change all that ? Players who have been missing goals for years will suddenly turn into Pluggers because the new coach will show them the way.What are you on about? We're talking about the 'it's just a job' culture, not skill level.