Opinion Sack Hinkley 11 - Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest

[Enviable Tradition]

We can absolutely win the flag with a new coach. We know that mentality is a huge part of our problem and a new coach can change that instantly.

There are plenty of examples across major sports, especially those with finals/playoffs, where a midseason coaching change has led to a title.

I dont follow international sports that much.

Can you give a couple of good examples?

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[El_Scorcho]

I dont follow international sports that much.

Can you give a couple of good examples?

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Ty Lue joined the Cleveland Cavaliers midseason in 2015/16

There have been a few in the NHL recently, the 2012 LA Kings and the 2016 Pittsburgh Penguins both won titles after sacking coaches midseason.

The 2003 Florida Marlins are an example from Major League Baseball.

In soccer (where they admittedly have more things to win) Roberto Di Matteo took over midseason as Chelsea manager in 2012/13 and won the FA Cup and Champions League titles. They were too far back in the league, but if the Premier League had a finals system, who knows?

 

[Sharaz Jek]

Remember when Caro was saying that Port had "dodged a bullet" when Brodie Grundy

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went with Sydney?


The amount of gaslighting - and a willingness to totally shift argument depending on Ken's latest failure - is amazing.

When Grundy didn't respond to Ken's "learnings", it was because Port's "core responsibility" is football success.

Now - that Sydney are flying and Ken has collapsed again - its priority is Ken's mental health development and overall wellness.

LOL.

Same thing with the other players.

When they win, it's Ken's brilliance.

When they lose, it's the players' fault.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

The better question is can we win the flag if we dont sack Hinkley. We all know the answer.

 

[tribey]

Ty Lue joined the Cleveland Cavaliers midseason in 2015/16

There have been a few in the NHL recently, the 2012 LA Kings and the 2016 Pittsburgh Penguins both won titles after sacking coaches midseason.

The 2003 Florida Marlins are an example from Major League Baseball.

In soccer (where they admittedly have more things to win) Roberto Di Matteo took over midseason as Chelsea manager in 2012/13 and won the FA Cup and Champions League titles. They were too far back in the league, but if the Premier League had a finals system, who knows?

Miami Heat Team President Pat Riley famously boned Stan Van Gundy (who officially ‘resigned’) 21 games into the 2005/06 NBA season, stepped into the vacant head coach role, and ended up piloting D-Wade & Shaq all the way to the title.

 

[GremioPower]

I dont follow international sports that much.

Can you give a couple of good examples?

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I’ve just googled it. A Brazilian sport newspaper has published a list in 2020:

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O futebol brasileiro é conhecido pela troca de técnicos a todo momento. Porém, muitas vezes a troca de comando funciona, visto o São Paulo de 2005, que ganhou a Libertadores após a saída de Leão e a chegada de Paulo Autuori. Com isso, o LANCE! mostra outras equipes campeãs que trocaram de...

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They’ve found these cases of midseason coaching changes that ended up in championships:

Fluminense, 1984
Vasco, 1987/2000
Santos, 2004/2011/2015
Corinthians, 2005
São Paulo, 2005
Flamengo, 2006/2009/2013/2019
Botafogo, 2010
Internacional, 2010
Palmeiras, 2015/2018

There are also cases in which the title didn’t come, but the teams improved exponentially. Those would be too many to count.

Of course, there are also changes that didn’t work; but if you are already going nowhere, why not trying something different?

 

[ClintEastwood]

Bump.

This thread almost fell off the front page! Not on my watch.

Sack Hinkley.

 

[gbear]

Another 32 or so hours and this thread will be moving at light speed again. #sackhinkley

 

[rumoursofwinter]

I dont know. I'd like to sack chad cornes.

 

[RonnieRaven]

The Ben brown game should have been instant dismissal.

I was at that game with Willsy10
Here’s a replay of W10 when sideshow kicked his 7th

 

[PowerBaz]

If Ken was golf he’d be leaving a putt short every single time, never giving it a real chance.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I was at that game with Willsy10
Here’s a replay of W10 when sideshow kicked his 7th
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Staggering that a supporter who sat through that live still isn't willing to breach decorum in pursuit of getting the same Port coach sacked 5 years and 0 grand finals later.

That completed a 5th consecutive season without a finals win despite having sold the farm for several ready made stars over that period of time.

 

[El_Scorcho]

If Ken was golf he’d be leaving a putt short every single time, never giving it a real chance.

If Ken was a golfer he'd be some sort of Tiger Woods equivalent because of his ability to keep the score low when under pressure

 

[RonnieRaven]

Staggering that a supporter who sat through that live still isn't willing to breach decorum in pursuit of getting the same Port coach sacked 5 years and 0 grand finals later.

That completed a 5th consecutive season without a finals win despite having sold the farm for several ready made stars over that period of time.

The denial phase in his 7 stages of grief has been longer than most.
I suspect it’s also hard to hate on a club he holds so close to his heart.
He’s certainly not a happy clapper

 

[EskimoPAFC]

If Ken was golf he’d be leaving a putt short every single time, never giving it a real chance.

Such a good analogy.

You play it safe, you likely are gonna achieve par, and can be happy with it if thats your goal.

But when the only goal is to win, and 10 odd clubs are trying to nail it in one putt, one will always make it.

 

[Butters and Pepper]

Surely Ken would be Ian Baker-Finch, given his putting woes.

 

[Duck Farmer]

Surely Ken would be Ian Baker-Finch, given his putting woes.

Ian Baker-Finch won something.

 

[Byrons Firen]

fake crying to make port (fans) look like the evil nasty ones, always comes back to making us look bad

WE ARE HIS ENEMY. I think the co-captains was an FU to the fans

 

[DaTBird187]

Thomas is back in a mainstream forum for the first time in years.

Micro-dick Kane will want to talk about St Kilda but hopefully Thomas and King use the forum to discuss loser Ken.

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[Enviable Tradition]

Ty Lue joined the Cleveland Cavaliers midseason in 2015/16

There have been a few in the NHL recently, the 2012 LA Kings and the 2016 Pittsburgh Penguins both won titles after sacking coaches midseason.

The 2003 Florida Marlins are an example from Major League Baseball.

In soccer (where they admittedly have more things to win) Roberto Di Matteo took over midseason as Chelsea manager in 2012/13 and won the FA Cup and Champions League titles. They were too far back in the league, but if the Premier League had a finals system, who knows?

"Careful what you wish for Port fans!"

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[simba_]

Grant Thomas is a chad. that old podcast where him and Sam Newman would openly talk about AFL corruption and Mike Sheahan would be audibly shitting himself was absolute gold.

 

[1954]

Someone told Caro that the tool of the week award was a 2 horse race between Cornes and Whateley - her response was, "We'll see about that!!!"

With the result being the same as the Hotham Handicap in 1956.

 

[Palpatine_Power]

Here's Gerard backing up his comments from last week:



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, Sarah Jones and Mark Robinson. All Bulldogs.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-tips-see-who-the-experts-are-backing-in-round-17/news-story/501675d0281b66a98d0470104cd43ac4

 

[sobrave]

Here's Gerard backing up his comments from last week:

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Other notables: Jon Ralph, Andrew Capel, Jordan Lewis, Sarah Jones and Mark Robinson. All Bulldogs.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-tips-see-who-the-experts-are-backing-in-round-17/news-story/501675d0281b66a98d0470104cd43ac4

Kernny is da best man for dem and should be coach forever and they shouldn't be mean and it's totally cool that they're supposed to be in a premiership window but instead are playing like a bottom 6 side who'll miss finals. Totally cool and normal and you're ungrateful to think otherwise.

Bizarro.

 

[philreich]

Ty Lue joined the Cleveland Cavaliers midseason in 2015/16

There have been a few in the NHL recently, the 2012 LA Kings and the 2016 Pittsburgh Penguins both won titles after sacking coaches midseason.

The 2003 Florida Marlins are an example from Major League Baseball.

In soccer (where they admittedly have more things to win) Roberto Di Matteo took over midseason as Chelsea manager in 2012/13 and won the FA Cup and Champions League titles. They were too far back in the league, but if the Premier League had a finals system, who knows?

If a new coach comes in, and takes Todd Marshall under his wing and says, "Son - I believe in you: you have my full backing", it'd do wonders for the kid's confidence. Who knows what sort of message the players are receiving at the moment - their confidence appears to be shot, and they desperately need a change of mentor.