Certified Legendary Thread Sack Hinkley 12 - Finals Are Scary

[Chewy316]

Hi Chewy just got back from a few days back home in the west where the ken to west coast rumor is still floating around and people I spoke to had mixed feelings about Ken potentially moving to west coast. Some thought he would be ok some thought not. I certainly think if he made the granny or even win it he would obviously be safe at Port but he would then be even more desirable for west Coast who may make him an offer he can't resist and leave port anyway your thoughts?

Your thoughts echo my sentiments exactly.

 

[Janey]

Nothing that Chewy hasn't already told us.

Ken only found out when he read Chewy's post.

 

[PA88]

Ken offered a senior gig by WC would surprise me. I don't reckon he gets a senior gig anywhere.

 

[GremioPower]

Despite my frustration with Kens recent finals form, I’m still willing to give him one last chance this year.

You are part of the problem, then. Sorry.

 

[GremioPower]

I don’t know who Slobbo is, but why is he talking about this NOW? It took me a few months SEVEN YEARS AGO to realize the issue.

I couldn’t know the actual cause, but it’s not hard to raise the hypotheses. It’s ALWAYS a leadership problem. It doesn’t leave many suspects: captain/leaders; coaches; front office; chairman/board. That’s it.

On the post above, it’s now obvious that it’s the senior coach, the head of football, AND the board. Everything else has changed: players, assistants, CEO. The board, being above all, is the main culprit.

The media seems clueless due a premise that they can’t publicly admit. They fully believe Port has reached its ceiling. We are not supposed to demand more. Premierships are a Victorian right.

 

[GremioPower]

Nothing that Chewy hasn't already told us.

Same as Robbo.

They really don’t pay attention. This was crystal clear for me as soon as I arrived here in 2017. We are in 2024. It cannot be the players.

 

[Sharaz Jek]

People are treating this as "if Port make the prelim, Ken stays".

I'm not sure it even really says that, but more importantly I think Tom Morris doesn't know shit. I think the only way he might see next year without a GF is if we lose that prelim by less than a kick.

There are a few things that need to be parsed out.

Morris isn't McClure.

He isn't running to a microphone the second that a club's towel boy messages a rumor.

Morris likely DID speak to Ken or someone close to him.

Morris also said he couldn't "confirm" the story which, in my mind, means he only got one side - Ken's - and the Eagles didn't get back to him.

And clearly Ken isn't bullshitting this time.

Woodcock ran with the story (late tonight).

https://thewest.com.au/sport/west-c...e-linked-to-west-coast-eagles-role-c-15985267

This means that Woody was likely speaking to the Eagles about it (or the club reached out to him).

Either way, the Ken/Eagles story does have substance.

That said, Pyke might be more of a fool than I imagined if he went to Ken without a formal interviewing process.

This hiring has the stink of a Mick/Carlton about it. Ken is just a dinosaur and simply won't be able to adapt yet again to a new environment and more challenging systems to contend with.

And Ken has so many parasitic relationships with the media that the club will have challenging ridding themselves of this campaigner well after they have made the decision to axe him.

 

[Revan11]

AFL coaches will always back Hinkley and defend him in the media because he's the poster for stability and achieving nothing which can be used in their argument to keep them their own jobs

Noticed this with Fagan

 

[kozi]

What’s the benefit of letting him coach next week? What’s he going to change that he hasn’t had years to already

Sack him for the dead cat bounce at least

 

[GremioPower]

People are treating this as "if Port make the prelim, Ken stays".

I would be gladly surprised if it’s not the case

 

[dirty2]

I can't imagine Hinkley getting another job anywhere else besides bell park reserve's and that's probably as the water boy.

 

[dirty2]

West coast must still have a bad drug problem if they are considering Hinkley.

 

[longdonkey]

I understand why people would ask the simple question of why anyone would want Ken Hinkley as their coach - specifically West Coast?

At the same time, West Coast have had more than ample time to line their next head coach up, and they appear no closer now than what they were over a month ago.

If they wanted a coach who was either not currently in the AFL (like Hird), or an assistant who did not coach in the finals, they could have done the deal well and truly by now.

Assistants who are coaching in the finals do not have to wait until their season is over to jump ship to another team, so they too could have been done.

However, if they are targeting a senior coach who is currently coaching in the finals, they have to wait. The only two logical people based on contract situations who fit that criteria are Bevo and Hinkley.

I heard around a month ago from a well connected player agent with no benefit to gain by releasing this info to me, that there was more than just a little smoke about the interest from West Coast in Hinkley.

It beggars belief that any team would want Ken after his latest failure on Thursday in conjunction with all the other failures. But that is beside the point - if a team is going to offer a long term deal, that's Port's good fortune, saving potentially 900k to ensure the footy department doesn't blow its soft cap next year, not to mention getting Ken off the books, sign me up.

FWIW, it won't take West Coast to offer him a deal to get him off Port's hands. Port are prepared to sort out a pay out even if West Coast don't come for Ken.



I hope I'm right too. I can't speak for everyone at the Club, but there are people at the Club who are directly involved in the decision to keep or sack Ken (and I may or may not have spoken to them), and these individuals want him gone even if the Club makes a prelim.

I think Will Schofield is a pretty good source for West Coast info and he seems to think Steven King is the man hence the wait until Geelong are done.

 

[Sharaz Jek]

I think Will Schofield is a pretty good source for West Coast info and he seems to think Steven King is the man hence the wait until Geelong are done.

Say Port loses this week and Ken is given his marching orders.

Does he think he can lean on his media mates to agitate for his employment at West Coast ... and that the Eagles will simply roll over and hire him?

Ken is such a narcissist.

 

[ClintEastwood]

Come to an agreement to part ways. Sounds so nice. I prefer a re-enactment of Julius Caesar's assassination.

The Night of Tainted Donuts?

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

How can I watch more things from him?

 

[ClintEastwood]

 

[GremioPower]

 

[GremioPower]

On Plan B

It didn’t take me much time to find someone talking about it. This is tribey in early March 2017:




Footy media is amazing, isn’t it? Brilliant stuff.

 

[Sharaz Jek]

"You need your best ball-winners to dictate from the start"

Horne-Francis started on the bench in the Sydney game and Port were 45 points up by quarter time, Robbo.

You weren't complaining then.

One problem (among many) is Kenny played Butters injured.

Surprise, surprise.

Another is that Kenny's plan doesn't stack up in big games or against teams that run-and-carry out of their back half and overwhelm an undermanned Port defence.

Another is that Kenny's propensity for risk-taking in the first quarter won't work when the coach's mental fragility seeps into the playing list ... year after year after year after year.

Another is ... honestly, we could go on.

But the fair question is, if Chris Scott

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was secure enough to rest Tom Stewart, why wasn't Kenny honest enough to admit that Butters never should have been played?

 

[GremioPower]

"You need your best ball-winners to dictate from the start"

Horne-Francis started on the bench in the Sydney game and Port were 45 points up by quarter time, Robbo.

We got the lead in Q2. We were truly back on it.

After that, the score was 103-17. Benching JHF had nothing to do with it.

 

[gbear]

The fact that cry-baby Kenny fed Tom Morris the info himself is so great. It's right up there with the fake tears, the cupping of ear, the creepy hugs, the "figurehead" comment. Just a manipulative swindler, liar and opportunist.

It is now getting utterly ridiculous fro these campaigners in the mafia media.

 

[gbear]

Over the Nullarbor, they are trembling.

Yet so many people call us out for our hate after 12 ****ing years with this tosser!

 

[PowerBaz]

Pyke has an 80% winning record against Ken in the showdowns.

Why would he hire Ken?

 

[Crankyhawk]

Look Taper I am sure you are a good bloke but please just taper off.

Seems to be whateleys’ bigfooty account