Certified Legendary Thread Sack Hinkley 12 - Finals Are Scary

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This is a legitimate concern shared by people at the Club.

This has been the problem the whole time. Koch is a huge chance of going rogue and if he does, he will do what he perceives as the easy, feelgood thing. It's now "easy" to just let Ken coach the last year of his contract. It "feels good" to parry away an attempt to poach your head coach.

He survived 2023, he can survive 2024 unless we are ruthless.
 
$20000 is an obscene fine. Guarantee that similar incidents won't get the same penalty. Once again, we get exorbitantly punished so the AFL can say they're taking a stand without doing anything to the clubs they care about.
Yep.

A reminder. AFL fine handed to Chris Scott for this? $0.

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The AFL habit of singling out Port for record penalties/fines continues.
 
To be fair, whatever answer he provided was going to be controversial - whether it was “yes” or “we’ll reassess at the end of the season”.

There was no need to answer:

Who’s thinking about that with such an important game ahead of us? I’m certainly not.

Done.
 

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Just talking to a non-Port mate and tried to explain that finishing top four in 4 out of 5 seasons and (potentially) not having a single GF appearance to show for it can only be consider a massive failure.

He replies with “at a club like, say, the Kangaroos, that would be considered success”.

Ummm, no it wouldn’t bro. Even the Kangaroos wouldn’t tolerate that shit. The deepest, darkest days of Fitzroy wouldn’t have even put up with it. There isn’t a club in the land who’s supporters wouldn’t be incensed in the same situation.
Just ask if the Kangaroos would have been happy then to go back to the 1995-2000 period and make two prelims rather than win two flags.
 
He replies with “at a club like, say, the Kangaroos, that would be considered success”.

So, Port is on the same level as North. Is that it?

That is what I would have replied to him.
 
It’s 2024,success is measured in Dollars no Silverware.

That’s a problem for other clubs. If they want to do that and be run by no-hopers, be my guests.

Port should be different. Otherwise, we are no longer Port.
 
Win one knockout final in 10 years is mission accomplished I guess.

See you again next year Kenny

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Our player depth is terrible, it's going to get a lot worse.

Nah, our premiership window has the chance to be open for quite a while.

We are a very good team when we want to be and are still improving.

We still have fat to cut but you just don't know whether that will happen.

We could improve some magnets as well. In this off season, with Houston, Soldo and a few others leaving, we might be able to completely readjust our team and strengthen the longevity of the premiership window.

If we had a good coach, I would be talking dynasty.

With Ken, we might nab one here or there.
 
I would love to win the GF even if Hinkley is coach but losing it and knowing he will be here next year with a closing premiership window will finish me.

Our player depth is terrible, it's going to get a lot worse.
Depth isn't as bad as some others in the top 8 even top 4. Have a look who's been out or injured all year and we've still managed to finish 2nd..

Whoknows what a win like last Friday has done to our bottom 5-6 players as well , they were almost our best.
 
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Sadly the writing seems to be well and truly on the wall here, all the smoke being blown up Ken's bum, the win against the hawks and everything that's come after definitely feels like "mission accomplished" pats on the back all round.....onto next year.

Koch seems to care more for the adoration of the media and the feel good story of "Kenny", instead of focusing on what's best for the club, members and premiership success.

Surprised no body else at the club has pulled him up on this. I know he's chairman Moi, but surely someone has said to him let's keep the interviews down and cards close to our chest for now.



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Sacked Ken Sheldon the year after he got them into back-to-back finals series, when he served up a 10-10 record amidst high expectations in 1993.

Sacked Wonderboy Tim Watson when it was obvious he wasn’t suited to the job.

Sacked Malcolm Blight when they decided he was just taking the coin.

Sacked Brett Ratten not long after extending him once Ross Lyon signalled his intention to return to coaching, too.

For all their failures they’re probably the most ruthless club in the league when it comes to their coaches box.
Don't forget Stan Alves who they sacked a year after making the GF.
 
Why the f*#k would you publicly confirm hinkley coaching next year Koch you are an absolute clown keep the heat on him so he doesn't get complacent again but nope this happens every f*#kin time watch the team bow out this weekend like dejuvu its a mentality issue
 
It's amazing when you want something bad enough, how gullible you can become, even when your head says the opposite.

Hawthorn may have been the laughing stock last week but we will be the laughing stock for another year or more.
Remember Koch said he wanted to make Hinkley a 20 year coach.

That's how I see it until anything changes.

This means that Koch wants to be around for 20 year or more as well.

All of the rubbish and propaganda and leaked information from the board is just that. Rubbish. Just building narratives to lessen the blows of keeping their boys club unchecked with the unwashed members.

This is the thing. There is no recourse for change. The board and the Chairman are not member elected anymore. Koch will do whatever he wants. The AFL wanted to turn the Port Adelaide Football Club into a franchise and David has been very successful in doing that.

David has brought his soulless brand of Morning Television to Alberton. Look, David sold his soul long ago. The Port Adelaide Football Club is still going through the process on his behalf. It's gonna take time.
 
Why the f*#k would you publicly confirm hinkley coaching next year Koch you are an absolute clown keep the heat on him so he doesn't get complacent again but nope this happens every f*#kin time watch the team bow out this weekend like dejuvu its a mentality issue
And if we do lose on Friday night, Koch will undoubtedly rock up to the B&F and declare 2024 another successful season - despite the failure to make yet another grand final.
 
And if we do lose on Friday night, Koch will undoubtedly rock up to the B&F and declare 2024 another successful season - despite the failure to make yet another grand final.
Obviously I hope we win this week, but If we lose Friday Night Koch can’t possibly do that. Four top four finishes in five years (including finishing top and second twice) should mean a couple of GF appearances in the bank as a bare minimum. We lose this week, especially if it is a belting, we have three final wins in a decade and the exact same concerns around performance when it counts the most.
 
Obviously I hope we win this week, but If we lose Friday Night Koch can’t possibly do that. Four top four finishes in five years (including finishing top and second twice) should mean a couple of GF appearances in the bank as a bare minimum. We lose this week, especially if it is a belting, we have three final wins in a decade and the exact same concerns around performance when it counts the most.
I wouldn't put anything past Chairman Moi (besides accountability). Last year he ignored the straight sets exit in his speech, and declared the season a success on the basis of 13 straight wins. If he and Fos Williams had ever crossed paths, Fos would have smashed him in the nose.
 
Sadly the writing seems to be well and truly on the wall here, all the smoke being blown up Ken's bum, the win against the hawks and everything that's come after definitely feels like "mission accomplished" pats on the back all round.....onto next year.

Koch seems to care more for the adoration of the media and the feel good story of "Kenny", instead of focusing on what's best for the club, members and premiership success.

Surprised no body else at the club has pulled him up on this. I know he's chairman Moi, but surely someone has said to him let's keep the interviews down and cards close to our chest for now.



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Why do you think Koch has been largely absent from the media with regards to footy all season? It was directed by the Club to be that way.

People in paid and unpaid positions at the executive levels of the Club are downright pissed with David's comments on the record to Jake Niall, and his comments off the record to Robbo. They want the focus in the media to be on the final, nothing else.

The irony is that David's comments about the SANFL recently have been the tipping point for CD who is almost certain to leave Port for Collingwood this off season -.which I don't consider to be a bad thing.

I don't take much stock into David's comments about Ken simply because I know friday night's game is going to determine Ken's future. A bad loss and he's still likely gone. A close loss or a win, he will likely be there in 2025. Plenty of things still to play out. But what is certain, is that the footy committee at the end of the season will review Ken's position and make a determination from there. I am 100% sure that is the case having checked into it last night after David's comments were published.
 
Why do you think Koch has been largely absent from the media with regards to footy all season? It was directed by the Club to be that way.

People in paid and unpaid positions at the executive levels of the Club are downright pissed with David's comments on the record to Jake Niall, and his comments off the record to Robbo. They want the focus in the media to be on the final, nothing else.

The irony is that David's comments about the SANFL recently have been the tipping point for CD who is almost certain to leave Port for Collingwood this off season -.which I don't consider to be a bad thing.

I don't take much stock into David's comments about Ken simply because I know friday night's game is going to determine Ken's future. A bad loss and he's still likely gone. A close loss or a win, he will likely be there in 2025. Plenty of things still to play out. But what is certain, is that the footy committee at the end of the season will review Ken's position and make a determination from there. I am 100% sure that is the case having checked into it last night after David's comments were published.
Thank you Chewy316 as always. Good news about Davies. Trifecta of Hinkley plus Koch would make me happy.
 
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