Opinion Sack Hinkley 3 - 2021 is worse than 2020 already

[Eighteen Seventy]

32,000 true port adelaide supporters at the game used their voice for a win.
real port adelaide supporters.
the anti port adelaide supporters sat on their keyboards and barracked for a loss. They are not port adelaide.

Lol. **** off, troll.

 

[JimmyBC]

That’s the kinda ruthless cnut we need.

He'll enter Crazy Blighty territory once he leaves Hawthorn.. it's over.

 

[Lagooner]

He'll enter Crazy Blighty territory once he leaves Hawthorn.. it's over.

Yeah it’s a coin toss.

 

[Macca19]

That 1999 north can't be correct we didn't beat north until 03

Re-read my opening sentence. These are games we lost from in front

 

[backtozero]

Clarko has 4 flags and no desire to win anymore.

 

[powerpowerpower]

I'm not sure which forum topic this subject belongs to, but it's been on my mind for ages, probably like most die-hards.

In 2013/2014 - we had this super exciting brand of footy, played through the centre, at breakneck speed, and a seemingly never-ending overlap all the way to the goal line. We looked like we found the key to beating the Geelongs, hawthorns, Sydney etc

In 2015, we started the season against Freo, and the game plan had changed 360. Instead of fast, flowing football, we went to a chippy possession-based game from the half-back.

2016 we started playing the down the line stoppage game. It was slow, we looked undersized to play that contested footy.

In 2017 we played a forward press game, often without a forward though, as the ball moved too fast, and we were just dumping it, trying to get stoppages. In 2018 we just couldn't convert goals, and this continued for the 2019 season as well.

In 2020, we started to play this corridor football, leading forwards, aggressive press, with the lock-in players seemingly playing in perfect position for repeat entries. It was exciting, we were manic and it looked like we had found that perfect mix of scoring, speed and lockdown.

2021 - we have a red hot Orazio, a fantastic intercepting half back in Aliir, but we have started the triple switch across the back, slow build, possession game again.

Now I'm not sure what is happening but every time it looks like ripping the AFL apart, we seem to change the game style the got us deep in finals. This year, of all the years with the new rules, I would have thought the 2020 game plan would have ripped the AFL apart, but we have lost it this year. I hope we can turn it around soon

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

booking flights now.

Brisbane 2001 after 9 rounds were 4-5 103.8% 9th beat Essendon next game at home and started their run
Sydney 2005 after 9 rounds were 5-4 95.8% 6th
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Bulldogs 2016 after 9 rounds were 6-3 133.9% 5th
Richmond 2017 after 9 rounds were 5-4 107.0% 7th

You don't win a premiership in April and May, and you don't lose one either unless you have half a dozen season ending injuries to your top 10-15 players.

 

[tribey]

Wrong way. My post was about losing from in front.

He was replying to my original post about comebacks

 

[Contested Marx]

Brisbane 2001 after 9 rounds were 4-5 103.8% 9th beat Essendon next game at home and started their run
Sydney 2005 after 9 rounds were 5-4 95.8% 6th
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Bulldogs 2016 after 9 rounds were 6-3 133.9% 5th
Richmond 2017 after 9 rounds were 5-4 107.0% 7th

You don't win a premiership in April and May, and you don't lose one either unless you have half a dozen season ending injuries to your top 10-15 players.

assuming (which I guess is the tenor of the discussion) that Hinkley is a Matthews, Roos Beverage, or Hardwick level coach

8½ years of data would imply not

 

[PowerBaz]

This year has that mid table, bottom 8 deflated kinda finish..... the one we are used too.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

assuming (which I guess is the tenor of the discussion) that Hinkley is a Matthews, Roos Beverage, or Hardwick level coach

8½ years of data would imply not

True, but Hardwick was seen as Hinkley type never achieved anything, hasn't won a final yet, in the middle of 2017 after his head was called for after 7 seasons in the job at the end of 2016. Roos and Beveridge were newish coaches. Matthews had won a flag and was experienced.

Our players have to do it and have to change their mind set, just like all 4 groups of players above did after them and their clubs' decades of failures.

 

[thundercloud]

i am in the Anti anti porT aDelaide supporters. Outr group is called AntiPA. Our motto is a double negative makes a positiv.
My arms are croSsed but my legs are open. I let my binary thingee free.
Angelo Congear used to turn to Shine Hosking and ask him if the oranges were good a t half time. ShiNe always said they were sweet. they are Port adelaide.

dunderclod alias thundercloud alias bodymoan read monttgomery’s brilliant analysis Or yu will remain a dinderclod. It is not a simpleton binary but a multifaceted polis yu need to recognize and appreciate to a much fuller extent.

 

[dirty2]

dunderclod alias thundercloud alias bodymoan read monttgomery’s brilliant analysis Or yu will remain a dinderclod. It is not a simpleton binary but a multifaceted polis yu need to recognize and appreciate to a much fuller extent.

Yawn.

 

[Mitch PAFC]

The club set premiership expectations, if we don't achieve that or even make a ģf then they have no choice

I believe he is contracted to 2023 so with the club's drive to eradicate the debt, I don't think we can afford to replace him before then.

 

[edgie]

These are the double digit opposition comebacks from a lead under Choco

1/4 time
40 - Brisbane R21 2009
32 - Hawthorn R8 2008
32 - Collingwood R15 2010
25 - Brisbane R4 2008
21 - Hawthorn R10 2006
20 - Richmond R6 2005
19 - North Melbourne R18 2005
19 - Carlton R4 2005 (draw)
16 - Adelaide R18 2007
14 - North Melbourne R10 1999
14 - Hawthorn R20 2000
13 - Carlton R11 2008
13 - Collingwood R10 2009
12 - Bulldogs R3 2000
12 - North Melbourne R12 2000
12 - Hawthorn SF 2001
12 - Brisbane R2 2003
12 - North Melbourne R1 2006
10 - Collingwood R8 2001

1/2 time
40 - North Melbourne 2005
35 - Brisbane R4 2008
29 - Adelaide, R7 2000
23 - Carlton R11 2008
19 - Carlton R4 2005 (draw)
17 - Brisbane R21 2009
17 - Hawthorn R8 2008
16 - Brisbane QF 2001
13 - North Melbourne R22 2009
10 - Adelaide R18 2007


3/4 time
33 - Brisbane R4 2008
30 - Carlton R11 2008
25 - Adelaide R7 2000
17 - Hawthorn SF 2001
13 - St Kilda R18 2008
12 - Adelaide R18 2007
10 - North Melbourne R18 2005
10 - North Melbourne R10 1999

PTSD warning next time please

Also there's some games on here that are doubled and tripled up, was that with the Hinkley list too?

 

[Macca19]

PTSD warning next time please

Also there's some games on here that are doubled and tripled up, was that with the Hinkley list too?

Yes

 

[Enviable Tradition]

dunderclod alias thundercloud alias bodymoan read monttgomery’s brilliant analysis Or yu will remain a dinderclod. It is not a simpleton binary but a multifaceted polis yu need to recognize and appreciate to a much fuller extent.

I'd rather a simple explanation from a winner.

Gentleman Jack's explanations were never complicated.

 

[manureid]

People still dont have that dunderclod guy on ignore. Why? How many years of trolling from a Crows supporter do people need?

 

[tribey]

These are the double digit opposition comebacks from a lead under Choco

1/4 time
40 - Brisbane R21 2009
32 - Hawthorn R8 2008
32 - Collingwood R15 2010
25 - Brisbane R4 2008
21 - Hawthorn R10 2006
20 - Richmond R6 2005
19 - North Melbourne R18 2005
19 - Carlton R4 2005 (draw)
16 - Adelaide R18 2007
14 - North Melbourne R10 1999
14 - Hawthorn R20 2000
13 - Carlton R11 2008
13 - Collingwood R10 2009
12 - Bulldogs R3 2000
12 - North Melbourne R12 2000
12 - Hawthorn SF 2001
12 - Brisbane R2 2003
12 - North Melbourne R1 2006
10 - Collingwood R8 2001

1/2 time
40 - North Melbourne 2005
35 - Brisbane R4 2008
29 - Adelaide, R7 2000
23 - Carlton R11 2008
19 - Carlton R4 2005 (draw)
17 - Brisbane R21 2009
17 - Hawthorn R8 2008
16 - Brisbane QF 2001
13 - North Melbourne R22 2009
10 - Adelaide R18 2007


3/4 time
33 - Brisbane R4 2008
30 - Carlton R11 2008
25 - Adelaide R7 2000
17 - Hawthorn SF 2001
13 - St Kilda R18 2008
12 - Adelaide R18 2007
10 - North Melbourne R18 2005
10 - North Melbourne R10 1999

A quick skim suggests the vast majority of these fadeouts occurred after Andrew Russell was poached by Hawthorn.

There’s still a few notable bad ones — the 2001 Hawthorn Semi chief among them — and the statistical likelihood of all these failures being solely down to a lack of being able to run the game out is low, but gee whiz.

 

[afl2004]

I believe he is contracted to 2023 so with the club's drive to eradicate the debt, I don't think we can afford to replace him before then.

New afl coach contracts means we only have to pay out 6 months

 

[PAFC66]

Clarko has 4 flags and no desire to win anymore.

Dunno, he still looks more angry then Ken after a loss.

 

[PAFC66]

New afl coach contracts means we only have to pay out 6 months

Correct. Get rid of him if we miss the top 4...

If we somehow implode and miss the top 8 , get rid of him and tell him to pay the "greatness fund" himself on the way out.

 

[PAFC66]

Brisbane 2001 after 9 rounds were 4-5 103.8% 9th beat Essendon next game at home and started their run
Sydney 2005 after 9 rounds were 5-4 95.8% 6th
==========
Bulldogs 2016 after 9 rounds were 6-3 133.9% 5th
Richmond 2017 after 9 rounds were 5-4 107.0% 7th

You don't win a premiership in April and May, and you don't lose one either unless you have half a dozen season ending injuries to your top 10-15 players.

Brisbane were beating good sides in 2001

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Brisbane were beating good sides in 2001

Not in the first 9 rounds.

 

[PAFC66]

Not in the first 9 rounds.

Well they didn't lose a game after round 10 and beat Essendon who were dominating. I feel like we would get slammed by Melbourne atm