Opinion Sack Hinkley 4 - Show Him The Door

[Powerade 08]

REH you know these stats mean nothing, why bother posting them? All it does is reinforce how backwards/narrow minded the AFL is compared to other pro sports when it comes to coach selection.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

REH you know these stats mean nothing, why bother posting them? All it does is reinforce how backwards/narrow minded the AFL is compared to other pro sports when it comes to coach selection.

So what if the AFL industry is backward. They aren't changing.

 

[GremioPower]

The mythology that’s sprung up around Hinkley, Koch and Thomas as miracle workers or saviours who had/have earned the right to do as they please and ‘see it through regardless’, is probably the most galling aspect of the past 6-7 years of disappointment since the hot start of 2013/14.

One Club (Fiacchi/Ginever) was locked away before the trio arrived.

The Adelaide Oval redevelopment and relocation was locked away before the trio arrived — even Round 23 against Melbourne being moved from Football Park was locked away before Haysman fell on his sword.

The $9,000,000 AFL/SANFL rescue package was locked away before the trio arrived.

And all the while the previous board is getting the sh¡t kicked out of them by the SANFL and local media, while Primus is trying to oversee a grass roots rebuild on a literal shoestring — two of his coaches famously included a 26yo IT guy who’d never laced a boot, and FIFO Dean Laidley conducting sessions via Skype.

Ken parachutes into a full coaches box including Alan Richardson and Darren Burgess, with the likes of Boak, Gray, Wingard, Wines, Ebert, Hartlett, Jonas, Westhoff, Trengove, Broadbent, Hombsch, Lobbe and Pittard in the 18-25 age range.

Oh the hardship of it all! However did he cope?

Please say you’ll stay forever, Daddy!

edgie and Alyx, apparently, I haven’t missed anything.

tribey had already written a more complete assessment of the facts surrounding Port’s current official “founding myth.” The main difference is that he kept Thomas in, while I believe he has been sovieticly thrown out of it.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

If we end up sacking Hinkley then hired Bassett I think that would be the end of me...

I'll have to go buy a microwave for my member's card.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

The Evening Run: Staying the course (portadelaidefc.com.au)

Not sure if this belongs in Media Shakes Head or here but this is the biggest twisting of facts I've ever seen.

Melbourne refused to stay the course. In the time since our last flag in 2004, Melbourne pushed out Daniher, then hired Bailey, sacked Bailey, brought in Neeld, sacked Neeld, then even after that still refused to commit to one coach and took Roos for 3 years before putting in Goodwin in 2017. Goodwin was then already put under pressure after just 3 seasons at the helm, scraped through in his 4th and won a flag in his 5th.

I'm not saying the Melbourne model is one to necessarily follow, but they got a flag through continuously changing the course - doing the exact opposite of what Port has done for the past 5 years.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

In fact imagine if we'd taken on Ken for 3 years in the Roos role with someone competent under him then taking over in 2016, right when Hinks dropped the ball. We'd probably have multiple flags as a result.

 

[Del165198]

In fact imagine if we'd taken on Ken for 3 years in the Roos role with someone competent under him then taking over in 2016, right when Hinks dropped the ball. We'd probably have multiple flags as a result.

bUt WhO iS aVaIlAbLe??

No one rated Goodwin now he's a premiership coach
No one knew a thing about Rutten now he seems to have Essendon pointed in the right direction
Beveridge popped out of nowhere
Fagan was too old and past it

You just pick the best candidate available and go for it. It's been done for 150 ****ing years. If it doesn't work after 4-5 years you try again.

 

[MrPlow]

If I’m allowed to travel to Sydney in the coming months (which I plan to) I will hold up a Sack Hinkley sign behind Kochie while on Sunrise

 

[MrPlow]

The Evening Run: Staying the course (portadelaidefc.com.au)

Not sure if this belongs in Media Shakes Head or here but this is the biggest twisting of facts I've ever seen.

Melbourne refused to stay the course. In the time since our last flag in 2004, Melbourne pushed out Daniher, then hired Bailey, sacked Bailey, brought in Neeld, sacked Neeld, then even after that still refused to commit to one coach and took Roos for 3 years before putting in Goodwin in 2017. Goodwin was then already put under pressure after just 3 seasons at the helm, scraped through in his 4th and won a flag in his 5th.

I'm not saying the Melbourne model is one to necessarily follow, but they got a flag through continuously changing the course - doing the exact opposite of what Port has done for the past 5 years.

1 - Goodwin was in his 5th year when he won a premiership. Ken is entering his 10th.

2 - Goodwin entered his 5th year under immense pressure of the club. If Melbourne missed the finals he’d have likely lost his job. Ken still faces no internal pressure (as far as we know).

3 - The article itself is so disappointing. This is the PAFC paying Rucci to try and push such a weak, unfounded agenda and silence those who are upset with an outright embarrassing PF loss. It is not Port Adelaide. Heck it isn’t anything but pathetic. It is soulless.

 

[TeeKray]

The grandest irony of this 2012 business is that most of us were far more optimistic at the end of 2012 than we are now.

 

[PowerBaz]

So I just realised Pyke only coached 4 years and got into a GF?

 

[Alberton Proud]

I heard on on the radio this morning "Hinkley is to be Released" and nearly drove off the road

Then realized it was John Hinckley who shot Reagan

#sackhinkley

 

[tribey]

For those that missed it here.

Of the seven teams that haven’t made a Grand Final since Hinkley took over, six have been wooden spooners across this span.

1. St Kilda (2014)
2. Carlton (2015/2018)
3. Essendon (2016)
4. Brisbane (2017)
5. Gold Coast (2019)
6. North Melbourne (2021)

So, every club that hasn’t been literally the worst in the comp at some point since Hinkley arrived has managed to qualify for a Grand Final at a minimum.

Except us. Just us.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I'm almost hoping for a Brisbane/Essendon GF next year for the lols

Also the funniest thing about the above post is that even some of the teams that HAVE won a wooden spoon in that time have made GFs (Adelaide, GWS)

 

[Thunderer]

The Evening Run: Staying the course (portadelaidefc.com.au)

Not sure if this belongs in Media Shakes Head or here but this is the biggest twisting of facts I've ever seen.

Melbourne refused to stay the course. In the time since our last flag in 2004, Melbourne pushed out Daniher, then hired Bailey, sacked Bailey, brought in Neeld, sacked Neeld, then even after that still refused to commit to one coach and took Roos for 3 years before putting in Goodwin in 2017. Goodwin was then already put under pressure after just 3 seasons at the helm, scraped through in his 4th and won a flag in his 5th.

I'm not saying the Melbourne model is one to necessarily follow, but they got a flag through continuously changing the course - doing the exact opposite of what Port has done for the past 5 years.

So, judging by the above we should have kept either Williams or Primus, sooner or later, who knows 10-15 years into their tenure, they might have won a Grand Final.

Conversely, Melbourne should have stayed the course with Mark Neeld, because he was coach of Melbourne around the time Hinkley took over.

There are so many holes in that article it's not funny.

 

[tribey]

So, judging by the above we should have kept either Williams or Primus, sooner or later, who knows 10-15 years into their tenure, they might have won a Grand Final.

Conversley, Melbourne should have stayed the course with Mark Neeld, because he was coach of Melbourne around the time Hinkley took over.

There's so many holes in that article it's not funny.

That’s the thing. Melbourne and Goodwin isn’t even a valid example.

• They sacked Neeld during 2013.
• Ran with caretaker Neil Craig.
• Hired Paul Roos for season 2014 with an eye to a succession plan, poaching Simon Goodwin from Essendon at the end of 2014 to be that guy.
• Goodwin takes the reins in 2017.
• Premiership in his fifth season.

There’s also the reality that there are a mountain of examples (as above) where clubs changing coaches was absolutely the right thing to do.

The oft-cited Geelong/Thompson and Richmond/Hardwick examples are the outliers, with even those scenarios coming good 2 years into our rear-view mirror.

Was Dusty Martin (Gray) 34 years old in 2017? Was Jimmy Bartel (Boak) 33 in 2007? Is Christian Petracca (Wines) 27?

It’s comical.

 

[edgie]

I mean, technically the AFL hired Roos and Goodwin

 

[bomberclifford]

I mean, technically the AFL hired Roos and Goodwin

The collective amnesia of the various AFL pundits on this fact is nauseating.

IIRC it was $1 million a year for three years. Funded entirely by head office.

 

[Doctor Feel]

The collective amnesia of the various AFL pundits on this fact is nauseating.

IIRC it was $1 million a year for three years. Funded entirely by head office.

Imagine thinking "equality" is giving a club their coach of choice because reasons.

 

[tribey]

The collective amnesia of the various AFL pundits on this fact is nauseating.

IIRC it was $1 million a year for three years. Funded entirely by head office.

I mean, I view it as reimbursement — but we don’t get Burgess, Hinkley or Richardson without the $3,000,000pa injection provided by the AFL/SANFL from 2011-2013.

 

[Port 2004]

I heard on on the radio this morning "Hinkley is to be Released" and nearly drove off the road

Then realized it was John Hinckley who shot Reagan

#sackhinkley

I mean, I view it as reimbursement — but we don’t get Burgess, Hinkley or Richardson without the $3,000,000pa injection provided by the AFL/SANFL from 2011-2013.

True. But we were only getting back what was rightfully ours anyway.

 

[edgie]

I mean, I view it as reimbursement — but we don’t get Burgess, Hinkley or Richardson without the $3,000,000pa injection provided by the AFL/SANFL from 2011-2013.

Nonsense

Ken rode in to town and paid for everything out of his own pocket

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[chiwigi]

Cancelled my recurring payment, reason.
Sack Hinkley.
I’ll probably downgrade my membership whilst he’s here.
Will cost the club around $2500 of my money.

Keeping Hinkley and failing on the PB’s means they don’t deserve it.

If they want to act like we are just a business and not a footy club, I’ll treat them like it and get bargain prices instead of paying a premium.

 

[portfan36]

If I’m allowed to travel to Sydney in the coming months (which I plan to) I will hold up a Sack Hinkley sign behind Kochie while on Sunrise

Mate, I stopped watching Sunrise and started watching Today because of that d*ckhead Koch. But I am now prepared to switch back to 7, just for one day. Please inform us all when you plan to do this and I'll petition for you to get immediate Legend status on BigFooty

 

[Port 2004]

For those that missed it here.

Of the seven teams that haven’t made a Grand Final since Hinkley took over, six have been wooden spooners across this span.

1. St Kilda (2014)
2. Carlton (2015/2018)
3. Essendon (2016)
4. Brisbane (2017)
5. Gold Coast (2019)
6. North Melbourne (2021)

So, every club that hasn’t been literally the worst in the comp at some point since Hinkley arrived has managed to qualify for a Grand Final at a minimum.

Except us. Just us.

Spot on Tribey. We now exist to be mediocre because the powers have no goolies. Big Bob would be spinning in his grave. Christ even Ian McKenzie had more nuts than these turkeys.