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My guess is port have told Hinkley he won't be sacked but he won't be getting another contract so it's in your best interest to look elsewhere.
What? Next you'll be telling me that the Easter bunny doesn't exist, and intelligent Crows fans do.......
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Grand final teams are grand final teams because they CAN beat the top 4.You can either beat a top four team or you can’t. Beat a top eight team or you can’t. Unless you play every team home and away, there’s no point counting the teams that are played twice because if you beat them twice, they may no longer be a top eight team, whereas two losses makes you seem worse, especially if you’re playing a top four side.
Raw data is meaningless when the fixture is weighted every year, whether it be through blockbuster games like Anzac Day, Queens Birthday, Showdown/Derby/Q Clash etc., through who plays who at home or away, or through the AFL’s own three tiered system of assigning double up matches.
But if you want I can make it even more detailed by analysing how many top eight sides we’ve played away vs home over the years, then comparing what our ladder position would have been if we 'downhill skied' over the teams outside the eight. Raw data, remember? Bold are top four teams:
This is why 2014 shouldn’t have come as a surprise. All we needed to do was win the games we should and we would be pushing for top four. We somehow, as a bottom four team, get to play Geelong twice.
This was a year we played about to our level. Note that we weren't good enough to beat any top eight team away from home.
Like I said, 2015 wasn’t really about not beating good sides, it was about not taking care of the bad ones. Get double ups against two eventual top four teams - win 1 game (that was pretty much thrown, but you know, raw data)
The list from 2014 in decline. Schulz injured, Carlile injured, White injured, Ryder and Monfries out thanks to Essendon's bullshit, Polec back from a navicular but not really...just a waste of a season.
Pretty much 2014 revisited and showed us where we were at. We finished in the eight but still had 9 games against the 7 other top eight teams.
Hence why we traded Polec, Wingard and Pittard.
Funnily enough we were missing Dixon for most of this year too. That’s how important he is to the team. Plus as I said before, the inconsistency of youth. Not sure how we managed to end up with double ups against two top four teams when it was pretty clear that Brisbane was going to be a good team that year after trading for Neale. Oh, wait I know why - because the AFL is rigged to favour Victorian teams
This was a premiership calibre team that was just unlucky. The equivalent of 2008 Hawthorn or 2016 Western Bulldogs.
"But who have they beaten?" ******* everyone we should have, that's who. It was a piss easy fixture though. Similar to 2013, but this time with an actual good team. Bulldogs would have been a top four side, but you know, we beat them in the last round, so they weren't.
This fixture was similar to 2017, but with the injury issues of 2019. If we had our full team available for the year, I believe we would have finished top four again. But as I've said, this might be the recession Port Adelaide had to have. As for the fixture - what a joke. Double ups against Melbourne and Geelong as top four sides + Brisbane, Fremantle, Carlton, Collingwood and St Kilda away. Why? Because it's a tv rights negotiation year, and Port Adelaide doesn't rate in the major markets, that's why.
Top four teams aren't top four teams because they can beat teams in the eight. They are top four teams because they can take care of the teams in the bottom ten and win some games against teams in the eight.
Our season finishes on August 20 (just 17 days away), so surely we'll know for certain by the end of the month.
You can either beat a top four team or you can’t. Beat a top eight team or you can’t. Unless you play every team home and away, there’s no point counting the teams that are played twice because if you beat them twice, they may no longer be a top eight team, whereas two losses makes you seem worse, especially if you’re playing a top four side.
Raw data is meaningless when the fixture is weighted every year, whether it be through blockbuster games like Anzac Day, Queens Birthday, Showdown/Derby/Q Clash etc., through who plays who at home or away, or through the AFL’s own three tiered system of assigning double up matches.
But if you want I can make it even more detailed by analysing how many top eight sides we’ve played away vs home over the years, then comparing what our ladder position would have been if we 'downhill skied' over the teams outside the eight. Raw data, remember? Bold are top four teams:
This is why 2014 shouldn’t have come as a surprise. All we needed to do was win the games we should and we would be pushing for top four. We somehow, as a bottom four team, get to play Geelong twice.
This was a year we played about to our level. Note that we weren't good enough to beat any top eight team away from home.
Like I said, 2015 wasn’t really about not beating good sides, it was about not taking care of the bad ones. Get double ups against two eventual top four teams - win 1 game (that was pretty much thrown, but you know, raw data
The list from 2014 in decline. Schulz injured, Carlile injured, White injured, Ryder and Monfries out thanks to Essendon's bullshit, Polec back from a navicular but not really...just a waste of a season.
Pretty much 2014 revisited and showed us where we were at. We finished in the eight but still had 9 games against the 7 other top eight teams.
Hence why we traded Polec, Wingard and Pittard.
Funnily enough we were missing Dixon for most of this year too. That’s how important he is to the team. Plus as I said before, the inconsistency of youth. Not sure how we managed to end up with double ups against two top four teams when it was pretty clear that Brisbane was going to be a good team that year after trading for Neale. Oh, wait I know why - because the AFL is rigged to favour Victorian teams
This was a premiership calibre team that was just unlucky. The equivalent of 2008 Hawthorn or 2016 Western Bulldogs.
"But who have they beaten?" ******* everyone we should have, that's who. It was a piss easy fixture though. Similar to 2013, but this time with an actual good team. Bulldogs would have been a top four side, but you know, we beat them in the last round, so they weren't.
This fixture was similar to 2017, but with the injury issues of 2019. If we had our full team available for the year, I believe we would have finished top four again. But as I've said, this might be the recession Port Adelaide had to have. As for the fixture - what a joke. Double ups against Melbourne and Geelong as top four sides + Brisbane, Fremantle, Carlton, Collingwood and St Kilda away. Why? Because it's a tv rights negotiation year, and Port Adelaide doesn't rate in the major markets, that's why.
Top four teams aren't top four teams because they can beat teams in the eight. They are top four teams because they can take care of the teams in the bottom ten and win some games against teams in the eight.
Once the brilliant mind of Ken Hinkley invents a way of winning a GF without beating a Top 4 team you'll be laughing out the other side of your face.
I've explained in my other post why this doesn't work.
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this is all good, except you dont mention where we wet the bed in finals
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Cant wait for all those percentage premiership trophies to be put on display in, "THE PRECINCT"
You can either beat a top four team or you can’t. Beat a top eight team or you can’t. Unless you play every team home and away, there’s no point counting the teams that are played twice because if you beat them twice, they may no longer be a top eight team, whereas two losses makes you seem worse, especially if you’re playing a top four side.
Raw data is meaningless when the fixture is weighted every year, whether it be through blockbuster games like Anzac Day, Queens Birthday, Showdown/Derby/Q Clash etc., through who plays who at home or away, or through the AFL’s own three tiered system of assigning double up matches.
But if you want I can make it even more detailed by analysing how many top eight sides we’ve played away vs home over the years, then comparing what our ladder position would have been if we 'downhill skied' over the teams outside the eight. Raw data, remember? Bold are top four teams:
This is why 2014 shouldn’t have come as a surprise. All we needed to do was win the games we should and we would be pushing for top four. We somehow, as a bottom four team, get to play Geelong twice.
This was a year we played about to our level. Note that we weren't good enough to beat any top eight team away from home.
Like I said, 2015 wasn’t really about not beating good sides, it was about not taking care of the bad ones. Get double ups against two eventual top four teams - win 1 game (that was pretty much thrown, but you know, raw data
The list from 2014 in decline. Schulz injured, Carlile injured, White injured, Ryder and Monfries out thanks to Essendon's bullshit, Polec back from a navicular but not really...just a waste of a season.
Pretty much 2014 revisited and showed us where we were at. We finished in the eight but still had 9 games against the 7 other top eight teams.
Hence why we traded Polec, Wingard and Pittard.
Funnily enough we were missing Dixon for most of this year too. That’s how important he is to the team. Plus as I said before, the inconsistency of youth. Not sure how we managed to end up with double ups against two top four teams when it was pretty clear that Brisbane was going to be a good team that year after trading for Neale. Oh, wait I know why - because the AFL is rigged to favour Victorian teams
This was a premiership calibre team that was just unlucky. The equivalent of 2008 Hawthorn or 2016 Western Bulldogs.
"But who have they beaten?" ******* everyone we should have, that's who. It was a piss easy fixture though. Similar to 2013, but this time with an actual good team. Bulldogs would have been a top four side, but you know, we beat them in the last round, so they weren't.
This fixture was similar to 2017, but with the injury issues of 2019. If we had our full team available for the year, I believe we would have finished top four again. But as I've said, this might be the recession Port Adelaide had to have. As for the fixture - what a joke. Double ups against Melbourne and Geelong as top four sides + Brisbane, Fremantle, Carlton, Collingwood and St Kilda away. Why? Because it's a tv rights negotiation year, and Port Adelaide doesn't rate in the major markets, that's why.
Top four teams aren't top four teams because they can beat teams in the eight. They are top four teams because they can take care of the teams in the bottom ten and win some games against teams in the eight.
Didn't want or need a thesis.
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Wasn't that in 2017 when he Hinkley threatened to walk out (the infamous extension)?
Imagine being bullied by a bloke who can't win prelims at home
I love the win/loss silverware filling up the display cabinet at Alberton
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