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Snoop, what was reasoning behind the re signing of caff? Do you remember how long he signed for?
I could do 20 best 22 before round 1 2016 and I don't think I could place him in one of them. There is definitely not a spot in the midfield for him anymore. With Swanny touted to be spending more time down forward, even if he got back to his 2010 form down forward, is there even a spot for him in the forward line now? Could the reasoning be potentially to show the playing group that the club has loyalty and he could be seen as a professional that the young players can get to his standard on training and preparation?
May as well have Knightmare have a crack at this too
I could do 20 best 22 before round 1 2016 and I don't think I could place him in one of them. There is definitely not a spot in the midfield for him anymore. With Swanny touted to be spending more time down forward, even if he got back to his 2010 form down forward, is there even a spot for him in the forward line now? Could the reasoning be potentially to show the playing group that the club has loyalty and he could be seen as a professional that the young players can get to his standard on training and preparation?
May as well have Knightmare have a crack at this too
Do we have pick 27? Thought we had pick 34 now
nvm just saw we traded with GWS late
Shaaaaaaaaaaaame.
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Sam is a terrific prospect. Key forward who has speed, good hands and is a lovely kick. What probably sets him apart is he actually understands the art of leading and with his pace and aggression I think he will become quite a good KPF. Whilst he has had some real good moments on some fine players (e.g. Collins ) the problem for clubs is he has little exposed form bc of his feet and ankle issues. Feet are notoriously difficult to get a read on so I am not convinced he will get in the top 5 or 6 to be honest.
I think he goes anywhere between 5-12.
Maybe he could do a Jack Darling and drop into the 20's......
I think he goes anywhere between 5-12.
Maybe he could do a Jack Darling and drop into the 20's......
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Nah I dont but I think the Club are massive fans of him and his character so not surprised will get another year. I dont see him playing seniors next year to be honest as think so many have gone past him. It will be interesting to see the role they give him in the off season. I wouldn't mind betting he trials at that medium HF role. Was a standout junior for us at Gippy in that role and is smart at finding space.
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I think a real chance Ben is there.
He plays at Gippy so I see a fair bit of him and I would be thrilled if we landed up. Very raw so will take a long time and is a December baby so not far off next year draft so needs to be thought of in that vein. Its probably why I think a club from 20 will start looking real close at him.
Right now probably hoping for either McKay, Oliver, Rioli or Kerbatieh
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I love the idea of picking up McKay. He is ideal for a project tall forward, in a similar way that Marsh was an ideal project player in 2013. Super raw, but really talented, hasn't been in an elite system for long, and the youngest player (along with Harry) in the draft to boot. He might take a bit of time to develop, but who cares? We have time. Cloke still has a few years left in him, and if he is ready to play earlier, a tall combo of Cloke, Moore and McKay could be extremely damaging.
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yeah and don't forget one Ben Reid not that dissimilar either.
He is a type that Hine and team would like.
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I hope you're right mate. A trade/draft period with Treloar/Aish/Howe/McKay would be a dream come true for me. I'm as keen to see this kid in black and white as I was to see Grundy come to us in 2012. I got my wish back then, hoping that I get it again this year!
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Only got the 1 year and I think that was more based on how highly respected he is at the club. Agree, hard to see him getting too many senior opportunities in 2016 but provides strong reliable depth and good leadership for the kids at VFL level which will be important given the departures of Armstrong and Young.
Hey Snoop, do you think we'll have a look around at what's available in delisted free agency period?
Any prospect of looking at tall fwd like Grimley, or a Mitch Harvey,.. Maybe a Jarred Redden or Mason Shaw even?
Or do you think we'll pass on dfa and possibly look at rookying Still or even Close?
Any prospect of looking at tall fwd like Grimley, or a Mitch Harvey,.. Maybe a Jarred Redden or Mason Shaw even?
Or do you think we'll pass on dfa and possibly look at rookying Still or even Close?
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Yeah i had a bit of look last night at a few that might be interesting. Reports were we were into Andrew moore and we have a pick ahead of Richmond so I think he is one we could look at. Colledge from the WCE is one that we probably dont need but I reckon he is one of the best that have been cut or likely to be cut.
Of the key forward types Shaw and Harvey are types we need but look if John Butcher can snag a game ahead of them then things are grim I would think. I would actually be keener on getting Spencer White down. Down know his head space but he has shown enough at senior level that he can play. I think his issues are fitness and head space and it might be the latter that is just to big an issue.
Sam Grimley am a no. I have seen his best and worst and there is a gulf.
A name I dont mind is Daniel Markworth. He has the speed we need and if you could get him fit then his best is good. Sipposs another I quite liked and always thought would go better in a decent team.
Andrew Gallucci is a name to watch as well from Williamstown. Might be worth a pick on the rookie list as a small to medium pacy HF.
Where is Mitch Brown (the former Geelong version) likely to end up?
I think he ticks a lot of boxes for us in the depth department. Can play forward, back and pinch hit in the ruck. He is an excellent insurance policy as an injury to a guy like Cloke or Nathan Brown (with Ben Reid's issues well known) would leave us up the proverbial creek without a paddle.
I think there will be a few teams after him, is he worth a risk and take him in the ND?
I think he ticks a lot of boxes for us in the depth department. Can play forward, back and pinch hit in the ruck. He is an excellent insurance policy as an injury to a guy like Cloke or Nathan Brown (with Ben Reid's issues well known) would leave us up the proverbial creek without a paddle.
I think there will be a few teams after him, is he worth a risk and take him in the ND?
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I think he will be gone by the time our pick comes around. Quite a few clubs looking for key position depth this year and suspect he will be first picked. Am sure wouldnt fall past Essendon #57
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I suspect that we will be less interested than most other clubs. I expect that Jesse White will be relegated to our depth player, and despite his flews, Jesse is an excellent depth option.
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I agree with that.
I expect that with the change to the sub rule both Witts and Grundy will play in the 22 and Moore, Howe and Cloke will roam the forwards. White will be back up to both.
I would like to target one of Harvey, Shaw, White with a rookie selection and give them a year to show us what they have got. Id go with the one who was most keen as long as was convinced they had the athletic credentials. I'd even look at Cameron Giles as a KPD type prospect. Had bad inj run but has shown enough to have me hooked.
Where do people sit with Keeffe and Thomas? How far back will they be coming from after two years out of the game?
Keeffe might be handy on the list given he is a KPP, but with our midfield the way it is, you would think that Thomas would have to reinvent himself as a forward crumber to get a look in
Keeffe might be handy on the list given he is a KPP, but with our midfield the way it is, you would think that Thomas would have to reinvent himself as a forward crumber to get a look in
Keeffe is worth keeping as a rookie
With the addition of Aish and Treloar Thomas is now just a list clogger
Thomas is dime a dozen. After our auto-pick mids (Pendles, Swan, Treloar, Sidebottom, Crisp, Adams, Varcoe) he will be battling with the likes of DeGoey, Aish, Fasolo, Blair, Maynard, Oxley, Ramsay, Sinclair, Macaffer, etc for any remaining mid and small forward/defender roles. Coming from too far back and not worth the space on our list.
I've never understood the love for Keeffe. He's not big enough to play ruck and too big to play as a key defender. He's good in the air and a nice kick for a bloke his size but he is horrible when the ball hits the deck. All an opposition coach has to do is instruct his forwards to lead Keeffe under the ball, with the opposition ball-carrier drilled to kick it over their heads. The opposition forward will beat Keefe back to the ball nine times out of ten and run into an open goal.
So, the upshot of all that is that neither of them should be rookie-listed IMO.
Keefe is certainly big enough at 204cm, he just doesn't have the skill set. He could be a very good depth KPD, which is all he'll be with Reid, brown, marsh and frost all ahead of him.
Any value in picking Keeffe up as a rookie just to trade home later?
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