No Oppo Supporters St.Kilda sack Brett Ratten

[Mowman]

Luffy was high up in champion data. Sounds like he left North in frustration. Used to do SEN and was a good operator.

He was great on SEN

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

He was great on SEN

He fed David King all his tactical stuff & stats on Fox too.

 

[PandaG]

Nick I reckon is happy at Fox.

True but if Ross asks..??
How many times can they make fun of him because of not winning a gf or the Shaw smother..? He is fantastic on Fox but I am sure the little competitive beast inside him misses the combat of club land

 

[Jesuswasacarpenter]

Both been out since 2019.

Pike has been an assistant at the Swans

 

[George]

Looking at the timeline I reckon they will look to have someone signed and ready to start by November 1st.

IIRC contracts expire October 31st of every season and this gives a clean slate with the new coach to begin the same day (he will start earlier as Walsh did but not officially) as Walsh on November 1st.

Gives the new coach a month to prepare for the draft on November 28th and three weeks to prepare for the players return on November 22nd.

Appoint him Monday 24th October, give him that week to get the media commitments out the way, and then focus on getting to work.

 

[phantom13]

Ohh my god procurement still getting in the way of me getting what I want when I want even on bigfooty

That process is very sound if you are buying submarines but if you head hunting a senior exec that is not the way to go about it.

This is not a competitive tender where candidates have to sell themselves to a panel. When you are selecting execs you do a professional search you do it quietly and you identify the candidates that fit what you are looking for and you want to approach based on their record and on the recommendations of trusted people who have worked with them. You then offer them the job. By all means do a background check etc make sure there are no skeletons.

This public selection process where candidates perform in front of a panel is some made up AFL thing and it only applies to Coaches not to CEO's not to COO's not to the GM of Football or List Management. The reason for that is they are all for show to appease the media and the members.

For some reason AFL coaches are treated differently to any other job and for some reason it is safer to appoint an untried rookie coach than someone with proven experience. We are the only sport or profession in the world where this is the standard practice.

Hes not an exec and we’re not doing it quietly so none of what your discussing really has any relevance.


If you’d bothered to read the preceding messages I made it explicitly clear that this is what I would do if it was my personal decision, I don’t expect this to happen nor do I particularly care if it doesn’t follow this process.

As I’ve stated numerous times in this thread, I just want A process of some description. The more thorough the better.

At the moment it looks a lot like we’re doing a Clarko with Ross. How did that go again?

What’s the harm in making this super competitive, ruthless, standard setting supercoach go through a competitive, ruthless, standardized process?

If he’s the right guy he’ll win it anyway, if he doesn’t want to do it then maybe he’s not as competitive as his fans are saying.

 

[pebblesofsand]

St Kilda want to appoint their new senior coach within a fortnight, with Ross Lyon’s long-time lawyer expecting an approach from the club within days.

Lyon does not have an agent, but his long-time lawyer John Gdanski, also a friend and confidant of Lyon, and a former Saints board director, said on Saturday that Lyon, who has worked in the media and in business since he left the Dockers, was expected to chat with the Saints this week.

“He has definitely not been approached and, like anyone, is always keen to have a chat. He loves St Kilda … (but) unless there is a particular offer, he is very happy where he is,” Gdanski said.

“Wouldn’t it be great to see the two of them, Lenny (Hayes) and Ross, together again.”

The Saints are publicly refusing to discuss potential candidates, but former president Rod Butterss - the man who hired Lyon in 2006 - said that there was no reason why events of the past should shape how the club now views Lyon.

“No doubt - different regime, different time. We all move on. I know Ross is the sort of bloke that doesn’t stare in the rearview (mirror). As Blighty (Malcolm Blight) said to me once: ‘Don’t stare in the rearview mirror, you will end up running into the a … of the car in front of you’,” Butterss said.

“What I could say is that I have the utmost respect for Ross Lyon, in terms of what he has achieved, and the person that he is, and his football IQ,” Butterss said.

“He is intriguing to listen to. He was great to work with and a strong leader and a good bloke. He had that edge that we are here for a single purpose, and let’s get it done.”

‘He loves St Kilda’: Ross Lyon waiting for call from Saints

The Saints want to name their replacement for Brett Ratten within a fortnight, and Ross Lyon is keen to chat in what could be a shock return to Moorabbin more than a decade after his traumatic departure.

www.theage.com.au

“He has definitely not been approached and, like anyone, is always keen to have a chat."

Thought it was a done deal before Ratten got sacked.

 

[George]

“He has definitely not been approached and, like anyone, is always keen to have a chat."

Thought it was a done deal before Ratten got sacked.

I think we'd have a fair idea of Ross' intentions prior to sacking Ratten. I'm not sure a club would go and sack a guy this late if they didn't already have someone lined up.

 

[PoppedCorn]

Doesn't Nick Roo go to the States over Xmas to see the Mrs family?

 

[stavro#4]

 

[PandaG]

Have we discussed Brad Hill popping his trade turtle head back in shell..yeah the Clarko stuff would have spooked him but maybe the Ross Lyon appointment had him happy to stay..?

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

True but if Ross asks..??
How many times can they make fun of him because of not winning a gf or the Shaw smother..? He is fantastic on Fox but I am sure the little competitive beast inside him misses the combat of club land

They've made fun of him with footage of me crying. If that doesn't make him go to club land nothing will*
He's fine.
*Episode 20 of best on ground of this year 25 mind 25 seconds in if you want a laugh at my expense. That footage has been everywhere.


Here you go laugh away

 

[triggering bro]

If the Boss comes back to the Saints it will be on par with the resurrection of Jesus, maybe bigger.

 

[pebblesofsand]

I think we'd have a fair idea of Ross' intentions prior to sacking Ratten. I'm not sure a club would go and sack a guy this late if they didn't already have someone lined up.

Just quoting Ross's lawyer from the article you posted.

“He has definitely not been approached ...."

As far as I can see, unless we had our hearts set on Craig McCrae or Scott we've not been disadvantaged at all by the timing of the decision.

Lots of capable new and recycled candidates out there.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

If the Boss comes back to the Saints it will be on par with the resurrection of Jesus, maybe bigger.

Does Jesus know how to coach?

 

[gringo2011]

I heard the same thing

And know a couple who worked with him

I heard him on radio this year and within a few minutes decided that he was a dickhead with no idea and a huge ego. Came across really badly, I think he was there as a promotional thing but if I was a North fan I would have been shitted off.

 

[Plugger35]

True but if Ross asks..??
How many times can they make fun of him because of not winning a gf or the Shaw smother..? He is fantastic on Fox but I am sure the little competitive beast inside him misses the combat of club land

I think he misses playing too, he still looks fit enough to play and he mentioned on On The Couch that he reckons he could still cut it at AFL level.

He was half joking but he would probably still go alright, imagine what him and Max King would be like together, an absolute nightmare for defenders.

Doesn't Nick Roo go to the States over Xmas to see the Mrs family?

He usually goes there during the off season so I wouldn't be surprised if he's there now, I haven't heard anything from him in the media since this all went down.

 

[Mowman]

Does Jesus know how to coach?

I haven't really given it a crack yet

 

[Mowman]

Doesn't Nick Roo go to the States over Xmas to see the Mrs family?

sure does, is over there now

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Doesn't Nick Roo go to the States over Xmas to see the Mrs family?

Yep. He's there now

 

[sauce_head]

If Hird was made the coach the club would burn down.

A queue would form of people lining up to light it.

 

[George]

If the Boss comes back to the Saints it will be on par with the resurrection of Jesus, maybe bigger.

Lid firmly on by the looks of things

 

[triggering bro]

The receptionist on high alert with the news RTB may be joining Lethers at the club. A couple of old school predators.

 

[George]

The receptionist on high alert with the news RTB may be joining Lethers at the club. A couple of old school predators.

**** me, on fire today

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Look I don't want to give away secrets but I have been in talks with the club regarding coaching.

I've got no idea what I'm doing but hell I'll give it a shot.


I'll start mouthguard Mondays