No Oppo Supporters St.Kilda sack Brett Ratten

[sauce_head]

I believe he has the job.

So I believe they have spoken

RTB?

 

[triggering bro]

We're with ya phantom

It's just that we think that process is already done

That’s it. Club conducted a thorough review & identified what they need in a senior coach. They then head hunt that coach. It’s standard senior appointments in the corporate world. It has Bassett written all over it. The AFL media are immature in this space & cannot believe we are not going through a base line recruitment process designed for entry level receptionist type gigs.

 

[phantom13]

That’s it. Club conducted a thorough review & identified what they need in a senior coach. They then head hunt that coach. It’s standard senior appointments in the corporate world. It has Bassett written all over it. The AFL media are immature in this space & cannot believe we are not going through a base line recruitment process designed for entry level receptionist type gigs.

So we’re reinventing the wheel with this process and going to the corporate world instead of following any sort of usual coaching appointment process.

I suppose that’s fine, as innovators we’ve achieved… checks notes… nothing. Well at least we’re… checks notes… the least successful club in the afl by a street.

Bodes well.

 

[Joffaboy]

Goes towards the soft cap.
How many head coaches are on that at present Joffa?

All of them.

 

[Moquo]

If that's actually the case then its a f***en disaster.

He has twice refused to be interviewed for a senior coaching position and expected the Boards to fawn over him and hand him the job.

Lets be clear - he's never won a grand final, was sacked from his last position (in very dubious circumstances) with a 30% win rate over his last 4 years.

Despite what his ego tells him, he's not a messiah and doesn't deserve special treatment.

I'd be saying to him what I said to an executive a few years back who was complaining that he shouldn't have to do an interview for new contract at the expiry of term.

If you reckon you're that good you'll win the position. He didn't apply and the company was better off.

Maybe he's twice refused to be interviewed because some of his old mates urged him to hang on for the right job? There tends to be a lot of 'what if' conversations going on at every club that I've had anything to do with. I'll bet there are former players urging him to do it. Some maybe inside the club?

 

[Joffaboy]

And you reckon my comprehension is an issue.

Didn’t you turf your membership?

Yes, I downgraded not turfed, or as the other moderator posted incorrectly, at the beginning of the year. You must be a better supporter than I am, is that your point in raising my membership? If so have been a member for 32 years and will remain one.

Could you outline the 'process' that will occur?

 

[Sippa]

Ffs enough with the he’s never won a grand final who gives a **** you make it 3 times draw one lose by a kick in another you’re as good as any coach that has won one .. what’s the difference between Ross Lyon and Paul Roos ?? One kick that’s what

 

[Saint Shags]

All of them.

You're telling me GC, Adelaide have coaches on 700k.

 

[triggering bro]

So we’re reinventing the wheel with this process and going to the corporate world instead of following any sort of usual coaching appointment process.

I suppose that’s fine, as innovators we’ve achieved… checks notes… nothing. Well at least we’re… checks notes… the least successful club in the afl by a street.

Bodes well.

Who knows how it bodes until we have an evidence base. No issue with your criticism. But I don’t think going through this type of process is anymore a risk than the alternative if you are targeting someone with runs on the board.

 

[PoppedCorn]

Definitely a guy I’d listen to for long term critical decision making then.

 

[Sun Ra]

I will laugh if it turns out to be Bucks.

 

[Joffaboy]

You're telling me GC, Adelaide have coaches on 700k.

Prove me wrong.

 

[stavro#4]

At the start of the year, then re-signed and turfed it again last week apparently

What’s the issue?

 

[Joffaboy]

Definitely a guy I’d listen to for long term critical decision making then.

Maybe don't listen to incorrect posts then.

Couldn't care less who you listen to, one thing is for sure, you believe your opinion is valuable, which is good, just don't get too upset when others don't.

Enjoy

 

[George]

What’s the issue?

There's no issue, it's just made up to seek attention, personally couldn't care what he does.

 

[BrutThough]

We've kept all the findings of the review secret. We grilled Ratts about keeping his job for a week without anyone knowing. Even on a lesser level, there was no noise about the 1 player be brought in over trade period until it was done.

Yet 1 day later and everyone claims to know someone who knows something about us already signing a coach and the contract details.... something doesn't check out here.

 

[Saint Shags]

Prove me wrong.

So we were the only club in AFL land paying a coach 300k less than the rest.

Of course you can't prove it and neither can I.

But it would be quite easy to assume that if we were paying low, there would be a few clubs doing the same.

 

[NarklesHelmet]

That’s it. Club conducted a thorough review & identified what they need in a senior coach. They then head hunt that coach. It’s standard senior appointments in the corporate world. It has Bassett written all over it. The AFL media are immature in this space & cannot believe we are not going through a base line recruitment process designed for entry level receptionist type gigs.

Yep.

People are forgetting as well: this is sport. And not just sport, Aussie Rules.

There is a dearth of decent coaches of Aussie Rules in Australia. That’s just the reality because of the sport. It’s not like soccer where you can be like “let’s got to country A and pick out a winning coach there”.

That’s why blokes like Chris Scott have such a ridiculous win/loss record. He’s an intelligent bloke who can motivate young men and is a good orator coming up against blokes who can barely speak and make up slogans like “why not us?” instead of making a winning gameplan and demanding standards.

Without a coach who can, at the very least, speak with authority to young men and get their buy in, you will get owned year after year by the Chris Scott’s of this world just like we have since 2011.

That’s why Bassat won’t risk losing a coach who at least gets you in the game against the likes of Scott by forcing him to go through a process when he clearly won’t do it as he knows he’s got some runs on the board.

Coaches like Lyon in Aussie Rules have power because they are bloody rare. And they are even rarer now that Clarko, another known quantity high-standard coach is gone for good.

Bassat’s process of having a review then going after a coach that suits our needs fits the Aussie Rules industry just fine.

 

[Joffaboy]

What’s the issue?

No issue, it was wrong, but that is irrelevant.

You know the facts.

 

[DarkSaint]

Who ever the coach is... I just hope we absolutely flog the daylights out of the players. I want videos of them passing out ala Burgess and the demons doco when he smashed them

 

[PoppedCorn]

So we’re reinventing the wheel with this process and going to the corporate world instead of following any sort of usual coaching appointment process.

I suppose that’s fine, as innovators we’ve achieved… checks notes… nothing. Well at least we’re… checks notes… the least successful club in the afl by a street.

Bodes well.

I think that most of the people saying that the process is done already prob also believe that this isnt the first time this has happened in the afl world and has prob happened many many times


After all
It is a business

 

[George]

Who knows how it bodes until we have an evidence base. No issue with your criticism. But I don’t think going through this type of process is anymore a risk than the alternative if you are targeting someone with runs on the board.

They've probably gone after 2 or 3 IMO and landed on Ross. Doubt a decision this big was made with just one guy in mind.

I don't like it and think it doesn't work out but will get behind Ross if confirmed and hope we have the support behind him to make sure even if he gets the arse in a few years we will be alright.

 

[Saint Shags]

We've kept all the findings of the review secret. We grilled Ratts about keeping his job for a week without anyone knowing. Even on a lesser level, there was no noise about the 1 player be brought in over trade period until it was done.

Yet 1 day later and everyone claims to know someone who knows something about us already signing a coach and the contract details.... something doesn't check out here.

It sounds as if they waited for Ross to say he was keen before giving Ratts a 'chance' at saving his job.

Hope I'm wrong on that one but it does come across that way. It's like we've decided to copy the Freo book for when they did the same back in 2011.

 

[Saint Shags]

They've probably gone after 2 or 3 IMO and landed on Ross. Doubt a decision this big was made with just one guy in mind.

I don't like it and think it doesn't work out but will get behind Ross if confirmed and hope we have the support behind him to make sure even if he gets the arse in a few years we will be alright.

All we can do in the end. And just hope it all works out.

 

[BrutThough]

It sounds as if they waited for Ross to say he was keen before giving Ratts a 'chance' at saving his job.

Hope I'm wrong on that one but it does come across that way. It's like we've decided to copy the Freo book for when they did the same back in 2011.

Or Ross hasn't been given the job yet and everyone claiming he has is full of shit.