The change in mentality

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lucas_hsv

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Fellow richmond supporters, I feel there has been a change with this club. A change in mentality and expectations among both the club, and supporters.

Being 23, the most success I've seen was us getting our pants pulled down by Essendon, then scraping a victory against carlton in a semi final (which i thoroughly enjoyed, don't get me wrong)
Since 2001 it has always felt like the team is just not good enough and doesnt want it bad enough. Even during 2005 and 2008 when we showed signs we may be improving, it felt like we always needed everything to go our way to win games, and that we would hope the opposition may have an off day so that we could steal a win. I felt like that mentality of "hope we play well" changed after the Rd 1 2009 thumping at the hands of carlton to "i hope we dont get beaten to badly.."

That mindset is long gone now, i felt it begining to change last year, and i feel the losses at start of this have completely stripped us of "i hope we play well" to expecting that we will play our best, and if we do play our best, we will win.

I was bitterly disspointed after the loss to carlton in Rd 1, as i expected better in that last quater. The 6 minutes it took collingwood to beat us in the 3rd quater was also bitterly dissapointing, as I expected better. A feeling that i was not use to in the past, and i would have just gone with "oh well at least we were ok"

The geelong loss it cut deep as i thought we had their measure, but couldnt go hard enough for 4 quaters.

The loss to west coast is the game that i feel started the change, as after that game the expectation of doing better was amplified with the feeling of "I've had enough of **** losing!!" I can't help but feel it was the same among the players, as demonstrated by Newman launching his mouth gard across Etihad's turf.

I knew we would beat port adelaide the next week, enough was enough. In fact, after that game i felt something that was very foreign to me, I was actually dissapointed with a win. Happy to win, but felt we should have played better

The loss to essendon was the last straw, that was it, no more. We're better than that, and we know it, we just have to want it. Alot of talk was made all week that perhaps this would break us and we would be done by hawthorn, I found my self thinking "*** that, we better come out harder" and we came out and showed that we want it, we've had enough and we want it.

We showed it again against st.kilda last night, even when they hit the front, I knew we wouldnt have this game stolen from us, not like against west coast, not like against essendon, and not against a team we havnt beaten in nearly a decade!

I think this may be the feeling amongst most supporters now, and i feel that is because we can see it amongst the group, and we havnt seen it in a long time, and some of us like my self have never seen a Richmond team like this that clearly WANTS to win.

Perhaps it will all come crashing down, maybe I am jumping the gun, some of you may even wish that I didn't make this thread as it leaves me vulnerable for abuse if it does go pear shaped, but you know what? I don't care! This would be the most passionate I've felt about this club, and this time I feel things are different!

Keep a lid on it hey ;)
 
Keep a lid on it hey ;)

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This time the improvement is real as we have a superb midfield, good forward line and a developing back line. Also we have some depth now and the game plan is very good. But, most importantly, the culture at the club is changing where losing is no longer good enough.. There will be no more easy games when anyone plays Richmond. I feel that from now on, we can win any game that we play. I haven't felt this way for 20 years.
 

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It is nice to see the shift in mentality. This group doesn't care for all our emotional baggage.
And how nice is it to win on a Friday night on the big stage and then sit back and watch other teams implode (hello North!)?
 
It is nice to see the shift in mentality. This group doesn't care for all our emotional baggage.
And how nice is it to win on a Friday night on the big stage and then sit back and watch other teams implode (hello North!)?
Out of curiosity...does anyone know when we last won on a Friday night?

It's great watching implosions from sides who are:

a) competing with your side for finals.
b) have a supporter base full of w***ers.
 
if we win all of the games that we expect to win which would be 9 and scrape some wins against adelaide or carlton we'll be in the 8.[/QUOTE
I assume you mean 9out of remaining 12. That gives us 14. If we win 9 from 12 our % can only go (another change from the past). 14wins and %>120. We will be in. Chances are though that we'll drop a game or two we should win ( I hope not but our age and experience warns me to expect it). That being said I'd expect us to win 1-2 of the remaining 3.

Having said all that I am quietly confident.

As a side point - how important are the losses to Port and GC last year right now? They give me comfort as we approach a period of "expected" wins. Those losses last year HURT the players, coaches and the club as a whole. That pain will not be forgotten easily. They will not take any games lightly this year, and last night is a timely reminder as to what happens when you do (thanks to Carlton and Essendon :thumbsu:)

Go Tiges!!
 
Even personally over the last 2 weeks my opinion has completely changed from looking at the rest of our games thinking some games are wins and some are definite losses, to - we are really a chance to beat any team if we play our best.

My bet is we will win some we are expected to lose (Carlton? Essendon?) and lose some we are expected to win (Dogs? Port?)
 
loved nahas's quote on todays footy show when asked about the feeling when st kilda got in front in the last qtr." the old Richmond would have lost, but the new Richmond has a self belief that we can win no matter the situation". summed it up perfectly. the attitude of a side that believes in themselves.
 
loved nahas's quote on todays footy show when asked about the feeling when st kilda got in front in the last qtr." the old Richmond would have lost, but the new Richmond has a self belief that we can win no matter the situation". summed it up perfectly. the attitude of a side that believes in themselves.

Was gunna post the exact same thing. A Richmond player wouldn't have made a statement like that in a long, long time and sounded believable. He was believable.
 
it was nice to see north go down against a team that got pantsed against us the week before!

to see the tankers go down the way they did too means they are going to have a tough month ahead as well cats/west coast(at wc)/bye/hawks/pies - they may struggle to make 8!!
 

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it was nice to see north go down against a team that got pantsed against us the week before!

to see the tankers go down the way they did too means they are going to have a tough month ahead as well cats/west coast(at wc)/bye/hawks/pies - they may struggle to make 8!!
They won't make the 8. Even their supporters know it,they're not all stupid .
Very exciting isn't it!
 
Keep a lid on it hey ;)

:thumbsu:

I'm as passionate as anyone about the Tigers and the improvement and recent wins are fantastic and has me excited.

However, we've achieved nothing yet.

Sure, 31 years of pain, we've all gone through it like soldiers in the trenches, year after year of pain. We've seen rebuild after rebuild come to nothing.

Finally, there is direction, we have quality people off the ground who have paved the way to begin to build the quality we are slowly forming on the ground.

Let's be happy and excited on our own forum and focus on the next weeks assignment, instead of proclaiming 'We are Back' and declaring the lid off on the main board! We just open ourselves up for ridicule!

I'm loving the passion, our gamestyle, our players and the supporters getting behind the club now. We are growing, what we are doing is building a foundation. We are rebuilding the culture, and hence building momentum.

So agree, let's keep a lid on it, we've achieved little at this stage, however we can say with our young talented list we are strongly advancing in the right direction, which is pleasing and promising for all our faithful loyal supporters :thumbsu:

Go Tigers!
 

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