Tim Paine caught in sexting scandal, resigns as Test Captain

[caveman72]

I was asked to send a dick pic to a girl I had slept with a few times. I didnt do it knowing it would probably get out when our relationship ended.

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One of my female friends is keeping all the dick pics she gets sent and wants to make a coffee table book out of them.

 

[eddiesmith]

Reckon those saying the 'world has gone mad' and everyone is 'walking on eggshells' must have engaged in some sh*t behaviour in the past. I certainly don't fear I'm about to be cancelled. And if it turns out that my sometimes dark humour was in poor taste and offended someone, I would simply apologise. It's not difficult.

The problem is things that have been investigated years ago coming back up again, people need to move on.

Look at JDG, dragged through the mud for a year because of something that has been investigated and cleared, then 5 years later he gets investigated and cleared, again!

Paine and his family had moved on, it was t hidden but looked at and now 4 years later he’s dragged through the mud again and called a disgrace.

FFS, you could do something today that’s perfectly acceptable but in 5 years time when the Greens have taken control, what’s normal now would make you a disgrace then!

 

[fs88]

Eh, the way I read it is that when he got more explicit, she started to hint she wasn't interested.

“I will think naughty thoughts about you whilst we watch the TV”.

“I’m cracking! Ha ha. Naughty thoughts like what? I’m about to give something firm a pull …,”

"Ha, sorry I’m getting ready for work … it’s a big day for us kids."

Someone hinting they're busy in a previously flirtatious convo is a good sign that you've turned them off imo.

So she just wanted a texting cheating relationship compared to Paine who wanted an all in cheating relationship?

I'd imagine as soon as you cross the line it's all over even if it's just a text or photo. If I were Bon, a text or photo would be equally as bad as it immediately breaks the faithfulness. Kind of like if you got shot or hit by a truck, you'd be dead either way but the truck is much more gruesome and messier.

 

[The Casey Cat]

Guy is a goose , what a stupid thing to do .

What were CA thinking that this would never come out about the captain ?

Noone in this situation is coming out of it looking too good .

Yea I already didn't want Paine captain but this isn't good and is just ####ing hopeless all-round. Zero per cent surprised CA found to be negligent here also.

 

[Demons09]

lol take your incel sh*t elsewhere

No doubt you’d be disgusted with the coach of your football club for having an affair with a Richmond sales rep , going by your outrage Hardwick should of been sacked as well you’ve either a hypocrite or maybe that episode just slipped your mind.

 

[western royboy]

Why do I have a horrible feeling Finch will be drafted in as an emergency replacement captain?

You’re on very bad gear if you think that’s a possibility - it’s not

 

[catters_28]

No, I really don't think it is.

I really really really don't think you get it do you?

 

[Demons09]

The problem is things that have been investigated years ago coming back up again, people need to move on.

Look at JDG, dragged through the mud for a year because of something that has been investigated and cleared, then 5 years later he gets investigated and cleared, again!

Paine and his family had moved on, it was t hidden but looked at and now 4 years later he’s dragged through the mud again and called a disgrace.

FFS, you could do something today that’s perfectly acceptable but in 5 years time when the Greens have taken control, what’s normal now would make you a disgrace then!

That moronic political party will never lead this country and thank faark for that.

 

[fs88]

CA didn't know at the time but sheesh that's a weak team (for obvious reasons)

Ah yep, so they decided to hope it didn't come out and run the gauntlet from mid-2018 onwards lol

 

[The Passenger]

So essentially, if a guys sleeps with his underage female student, he should be lynched but if a female teacher sleeps with her underaged male student, it should be all sweet because context?

What are you talking about?

Female teacher, 25, is jailed for having sex with boy pupil, 14

Fatinham Hossain, 25, of Horsham, West Sussex, was sentenced at Brighton Crown Court on Friday after admitting sexual activity with a boy and perverting the course of justice.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Female teacher who had sex with pupil, 16, sobs as she's spared jail

Mum-of-one Shannon Parsons, 33, waited until a pupil at the Kent secondary school where she was a teacher turned 16 before having sex with him at his family home

www.mirror.co.uk

Married teacher, 35, 'romped with pupil, 15, in her favourite sex position'

A MARRIED teacher romped with a 15-year-old student in her “favourite” sex position, a court heard today. Kandice Barber, 35, allegedly told the pupil she was pregnant with his baby and…

www.thesun.co.uk

There are plenty more.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

yeah it was heaps better when marital rape was legal, being gay was illegal, and 'dealing with your emotions' meant suppressing everything, simply allowing people to treat you poorly because you dont want to cause trouble, and instead drinking yourself to oblivion.

welcome to the present day old man, things have changed for the better. emotional and sexual abuse isnt acceptable anymore. try to keep up.

And I will again ask, if things are so good then why are so many having so many problems these days living?
Stop exaggerating how the past was unless you lived it. Bad things happened back then just as they do now. 3/4 of the population were not however running around depressed and with anxiety levels they can't control.
Sexual abuse was never acceptable, emotional abuse is in the eye of the beholder. What you call a bully I may not call a bully.
I am doing fine in my life mate so no need to give me tips on how to live. Very worried about so many of the rest of you who seem to be struggling with life.

 

[dtm06]

I think you are spinning a narrative that is in no way congruent with the facts as we know them.

This conversation was laced with sexual innuendo on both sides.

Genuine question and not being a dickhead, but what is Tim allowed to do if her texts are laced with sexual innuendo? If they were in the same room is the line physical contact or something else?

To me there is a line between sending messages like they were and sending an unwanted dickpic.

I'm not saying he's done the worst thing ever but what he's done is bad and idiotic and not something I'd want in a captain if I were CA.

 

[scoman]

Context.

Sexual violence isn't equal each way. It's much more likely an unsolicited dick pick could freak out a woman or make her feel uncomfortable more so than an unsolicited female nude sent to a bloke.

Don't know too many blokes who got scared from an unsolicited nude of a woman. Usually it's quite the opposite.

The inverse is not true though whe it comes to women getting dick picks without notice.

Is this the way it would be viewed in a court of law or in the court of public opinion?

Also is sending a dick pick or the female equivalent illegal?

 

[western royboy]

Genuine question and not being a dickhead, but what is Tim allowed to do if her texts are laced with sexual innuendo? If they were in the same room is the line physical contact or something else?

To me there is a line between sending messages like they were and sending an unwanted dickpic.

I'm not saying he's done the worst thing ever but what he's done is bad and idiotic and not something I'd want in a captain if I were CA.

It’s not the conduct of the Australian Test Captain - the bigger story is about CA’s involvement in it.

 

[western royboy]

Is this the way it would be viewed in a court of law or in the court of public opinion?

Also is sending a dick pick or the female equivalent illegal?

Very different standards of proof in each - which many are blurring

 

[Austoraisetheurn]

Genuine question and not being a dickhead, but what is Tim allowed to do if her texts are laced with sexual innuendo? If they were in the same room is the line physical contact or something else?

To me there is a line between sending messages like they were and sending an unwanted dickpic.

I'm not saying he's done the worst thing ever but what he's done is bad and idiotic and not something I'd want in a captain if I were CA.

It depends on the context, were pictures exchanged previous to this instance? The length of time Tim and the women have known each other etc. I'm guessing all this would have been investigated in 2018 when the allegation was raised.

The texts released by the media are notable because of the timing - just before the Gabba test match in 2017.

But to answer succinctly

If 2 people are sexting, as these two clearly were. Then I don't think you can claim that a naughty pic is unsolicited.

Text messages are notoriously hard to gauge context and tone.

It appears to be 2 consenting adults engaging in sexual banter or flirting.

 

[deanc]

Is this the way it would be viewed in a court of law or in the court of public opinion?

Also is sending a dick pick or the female equivalent illegal?

Well, according to our moderator there is no female equivalent of inappropriate sexting, only men can offend..? Despite 'the law' stating otherwise, although 'sexting as a prosecutable crime' is usually only applicable with those under 18 years of age..

 

[Chopperdave]

And I will again ask, if things are so good then why are so many having so many problems these days living?
Stop exaggerating how the past was unless you lived it. Bad things happened back then just as they do now. 3/4 of the population were not however running around depressed and with anxiety levels they can't control.
Sexual abuse was never acceptable, emotional abuse is in the eye of the beholder. What you call a bully I may not call a bully.
I am doing fine in my life mate so no need to give me tips on how to live. Very worried about so many of the rest of you who seem to be struggling with life.

There were just as many problems back in the day it just wasn't as openly talked about as it is now. It's not like Anxiety and depression just became a thing in the last 20 years. Its been around forever, plenty of mental illnesses have been misdiagnosed/treated over the years and many have just been passed off as "Personality traits".

The fact that we are opening up more and more about it is not a negative thing at all and does not mean it is in any way more prelavent now than it has been.

 

[The Passenger]

Is this the way it would be viewed in a court of law or in the court of public opinion?

Also is sending a dick pick or the female equivalent illegal?

In the UK I don't think it's illegal for either sex to do so (unsolicited), at least from the gist of the below article.

Sending unwanted pictures of genitals could become a crime

Cyberflashing is the sending of unsolicited images or video recordings of genitals without consent

www.walesonline.co.uk

And yes, if the above law pass it will be both ways. It won't just be men being singled out.

I'm not sure on the Australian law, but I think it's in the same stage as here.

 

[theyellowsash]

No doubt you’d be disgusted with the coach of your football club for having an affair with a Richmond sales rep , going by your outrage Hardwick should of been sacked as well you’ve either a hypocrite or maybe that episode just slipped your mind.

lol, sexual harassment is in an entirely different league to cheating

 

[Chopperdave]

It depends on the context, were pictures exchanged previous to this instance? The length of time Tim and the women have known each other etc. I'm guessing all this would have been investigated in 2018 when the allegation was raised.

The texts released by the media are notable because of the timing - just before the Gabba test match in 2017.

But to answer succinctly

If 2 people are sexting, as these two clearly were. Then I don't think you can claim that a naughty pic is unsolicited.

Text messages are notoriously hard to gauge context and tone.

It appears to be 2 consenting adults engaging in sexual banter or flirting.

False. Just because someone says to someone I'm thinking naughty thoughts doesn't mean send me your dick.

If Paine had said do you want to see my hard **** and she said yes please then there is your consent. That is what is missing in this conversation.

 

[theyellowsash]

And I will again ask, if things are so good then why are so many having so many problems these days living?
Stop exaggerating how the past was unless you lived it. Bad things happened back then just as they do now. 3/4 of the population were not however running around depressed and with anxiety levels they can't control.
Sexual abuse was never acceptable, emotional abuse is in the eye of the beholder. What you call a bully I may not call a bully.
I am doing fine in my life mate so no need to give me tips on how to live. Very worried about so many of the rest of you who seem to be struggling with life.

 

[Austoraisetheurn]

Very different standards of proof in each - which many are blurring

Consider, 2 people in their 20s meet at a house party.

They go to a bedroom and start making out. Open mouth kissing etc.

Right now, two people are making out.

Often, an encounter like this can progress organically to sexual intercourse without anyone ever directly saying, "do you want to have sex?"

Alternatively, it can just stay at making out.

 

[theyellowsash]

I think you are spinning a narrative that is in no way congruent with the facts as we know them.

This conversation was laced with sexual innuendo on both sides.

Let's be honest, Tim Paine is a handsome guy.

so if a man and woman are alone and somewhat flirting, and then the man just randomly without asking pulls his pants down and makes her look, thats ok?

 

[The Passenger]

And I will again ask, if things are so good then why are so many having so many problems these days living?
Stop exaggerating how the past was unless you lived it. Bad things happened back then just as they do now. 3/4 of the population were not however running around depressed and with anxiety levels they can't control.
Sexual abuse was never acceptable, emotional abuse is in the eye of the beholder. What you call a bully I may not call a bully.
I am doing fine in my life mate so no need to give me tips on how to live. Very worried about so many of the rest of you who seem to be struggling with life.

Slow steady decreases on suicides since the 1970's. Bit of a spike in the last 5-10 years, but similar to past spikes in the late 80's and 90's.

Deaths by suicide over time

Deaths by suicide over time page on the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare website

www.aihw.gov.au