List Mgmt. Trade & Draft Discussion 2023 post season - Picks Reid,30,40,49,66 (Bush league)

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So what does GWS get for trading down?

A 2 spot upgrade on 16 to 14 and a F2nd.

Not really that appealing if I was GWS.
Pretty much. If the guy they want at 7 is there at 10 then essentially 16 up to 14 and our F2 (approx pick 20) for free. Trades don’t generally have massive upside for all parties but there’s enough there as an incentive. Clubs regularly squabble over far smaller margins than that in trades. But as mentioned the GWS angle is the least clear..
 
I'm not fussed if we trade back in or not. if we dont have a F1 next year that's fine.
 
The deal I believe will happen is our F2nd and change for Sydneys pick 18 after Sydney grab it from North. Its them and Gold Coast who have been spoken about as the people to get back into the 15-35 range. I think with Gold Coast and all the bids likely to happen later then people expect and later then they should they will have assets left to give away and our future picks are worth the most in any discussions
 

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We’ll have someone there to present a jumper to whoever we pick

Genuine fountain of information is old ROB
West Coast fans responding to O'Brien's vagueness:
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I'm not fussed if we trade back in or not. if we dont have a F1 next year that's fine.

Yeah it’s an either/or situation

Either we swap out our F1 for Curtin or we hold onto for next year if there’s no trade

I’m comfortable with both possibilities with a slight preference to getting Curtin in this year
 
  • Reid an eagle ✅
  • Nail our other picks, trade up later in draft possibly, but not at the expense of giving up our F1 ✅
  • Don’t overpay for Curtin just because he’s from WA. Our retention is great anyway. Best talent always. We are not Freo ✅
 
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I only want to trade our F1 if the other side basically thinks we will be shithouse and are valuing it at pick 1-2 (ie, paying overs). I dont want it if its just pick 7 for Curtin. I could live with it if the club genuinely thinks Curtin will stack up with a top 3 pick next year but gee whiz I dont really trust our recruiters judgment that well atm.

I can see the attraction for the sugar hit now but imagine the sour taste in our mouths this time next year and we've given up pick 1 and our first pick is coming in at 30 (like our second round is this year), especially if Curtin hasnt shot the lights out.
It would be a dreadful trade if it goes ahead. Heads would roll if we are clearly wooden spoon destined again and pick 1 was traded away for Curtin - supposedly another brander who nobody else values in the top 3
 
It would be a dreadful trade if it goes ahead. Heads would roll if we are clearly wooden spoon destined again and pick 1 was traded away for Curtin - supposedly another brander who nobody else values in the top 3
If we end up with pick 1 we could probably leverage a trade for pick 4 + pick 10 next year.
That means that rather than a Finn O'Sullivan we might get a Jagga Smith (if we're lucky) or a Smillie/Hargrave as our first selection and pair them with a Travaglia (ala Leake this year) who is also great mates with Reid (who was his captain this year at the Pioneers) and won the Pioneers B&F. Would definitely help with retention, no?
Suffice to say, it is a lot to give up. You've got to wonder if it's worth it for the WA factor and the year of development.
Now if we miraculously push out of the bottom couple of teams and would've ended up with pick 4 next year it's basically an even trade. But that seems unlikely.
 
It would be a dreadful trade if it goes ahead. Heads would roll if we are clearly wooden spoon destined again and pick 1 was traded away for Curtin - supposedly another brander who nobody else values in the top 3
It would be a dreadful trade if it goes ahead. Heads would roll if we are clearly wooden spoon destined again and pick 1 was traded away for Curtin - supposedly another brander who nobody else values in the top 3

The decision to offer our F1 to secure Curtin would be a joint decision among the football department incorporating Massey, O’Brien, Bell, Simpson, Nisbett and Pyke

It wouldn’t be something taken lightly and I suspect Pyke might well have been the strongest proponent based on his interview on SEN. He seemed quite bullish in the need to bring in as much high end talent as possible as soon as possible
 

Clarko’s eleventh-hour play to bring Curtin to Arden St​

Alastair Clarkson has ‘fallen in love’ with draft gun Daniel Curtin, spending more than two hours with the WA prospect at his home in Perth.

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They're trying to spook us into trading pick 1 with them by making it sound like he wont be on the board for us to trade our future first imo. Please dont take the bait eagles......
 
They're trying to spook us into trading pick 1 with them by making it sound like he wont be on the board for us to trade our future first imo. Please dont take the bait eagles......

Sorry ep but this is such a stupid take

For some reason we’re not going to draft the best player because if we do we won’t be able to get the 3rd or 4th best player?

It doesn’t make sense
 
Sorry ep but this is such a stupid take

For some reason we’re not going to draft the best player because if we do we won’t be able to get the 3rd or 4th best player?

It doesn’t make sense
True but maybe us being keen on Reid and not trading down was because we could get Curtin with our future first? Maybe that's what North assume? I'm probably wrong like usual and a tin foil hat for sure but still.
 
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