List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency Part 10

Do you support the club trading for picks 2 and/or 3?

  • Yes Trade for 2 & 3

  • Yes But Only For 2 or 3

  • No

  • Unsure


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Trade & Free Agency Dates

Free Agency Period - Friday October 4th 9am to Friday October 11th 5pm

Trade Period - Monday 7th October 9am to Wednesday October 16th 7.30pm

Richmond have been linked to the following players:
Elijah Tsatas
Jai Culley
Jacob Konstanty
 
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If we can't get it right with Picks 1, 6 (Rioli), 15 (baker), 24 then eh we suck at recruiting

We can f that up. The more picks the better. I’d take 2 first rounds picks for Bolton.

His value is going to keep depreciating like a car.

Essentially everybody in this thread wants Bolton gone for picks. This is proof we have no leverage in this trade.
 

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No, but you can promote rookie spot guys in their place from my memory (although i havent kept up with all the changes the AFL makes to list management, almost annually).

This issue is we are going to have around 30 people on the list who are not yet AFL level, or unable to play due to injury. Where are the starting 18 going to come from? Its going to be bloodbath. I am up for a rebuild, but not unprecedented losses, which is where i fear this group heading

Bolton, Martin, Grimes, Graham, Dan Rioli, Pickett, Baker - In: who? A bunch of kids?

Who do we have able to "stand up"? Ryan, Dow, Miller, MRJ - all of these guys would likely be delisted from a top team, or traded out for peanuts.

Lefau, Clarke, Young - already LTI

Prestia, Lynch, Hopper - already injury prone and now 1 year older.



With those LTIL guys already and say we get the same luck we had this year with the other 3 mentioned - what will be our starting 18?
I don't mind us being at the bottom, crowds dropping, views dropping, memberships dropping. We fund half the clubs with our profit and the afl have actively worked to drop us in so many ways. Let us drop and drop their finances to remind them who we are!
 
He was asked just beforehand about Ashcroft but his comment was more about would we bid on players and his response was that we would bid according to where we have them ranked, thats how the system should work.
Thanks.yeah i knew about the bidding bit.
This day and age you think we can catch up with times and have reporters covered so we can actually hear the question.
 
Go hard for 10 and 13, but blink if we have to. He's a loose unit, will not put in like Rioli did this year, and will coast. Then we'll be in the same place next year and it'll be one late first for him.

If he wants to spud it up for 4 years it’s his career. Reassure him that a trade will be explored every year if that’s what he wants though it has to benefit the club otherwise he stays.
 
No, but you can promote rookie spot guys in their place from my memory (although i havent kept up with all the changes the AFL makes to list management, almost annually).

This issue is we are going to have around 30 people on the list who are not yet AFL level, or unable to play due to injury. Where are the starting 18 going to come from? Its going to be bloodbath. I am up for a rebuild, but not unprecedented losses, which is where i fear this group heading

Bolton, Martin, Grimes, Graham, Dan Rioli, Pickett, Baker - In: who? A bunch of kids?

Who do we have able to "stand up"? Ryan, Dow, Miller, MRJ - all of these guys would likely be delisted from a top team, or traded out for peanuts.

Lefau, Clarke, Young - already LTI

Prestia, Lynch, Hopper - already injury prone and now 1 year older.



With those LTIL guys already and say we get the same luck we had this year with the other 3 mentioned - what will be our starting 18?

19 players currently on our list (excluding those leaving) played 10 or more games in 2024 (includes McIntosh and Dow).

8 players played 5-10 games (includes Cumberland)

7 players played 1-5 games (includes Coulthard)

So we’ll have at least 30 players on our list that played a game for us in 2024.

While I think we will struggle in 2025, I think our players will develop quicker than anticipated. We have a nice group of 15-20 players in that 21-25 age bracket that are the most likely to see dramatic improvement.
 
Lefau did a ACL in June. it takes 12 months

Clarke did a ACL in mid April. It takes 12 months

Young did a ACL in May. It takes 12 months.


These guys will do sfa for us in 2025. will be lucky to put together 10-15 games between them with 1/3 of those actually being any good. trying to come back decent in a team with no protection or quality is a road to nowhere
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It's obviously pick 18 - if we don't take that along with 10 & 11.

Not as long as it's pick 18 that they trade.....
There's no way Melbourne trading a future 1st for 18 which will end up being 24-25.

It's pick 11.

Will be absolutely hilarious if Freo stuff this up and Bolton goes to West Coast. He's exactly what they're missing and stuffing this up will is the reason why will continue to never win a flag.

They really are happy being mediocre - Bolton will get them into a flag contention.
 


DEES LOOK FOR DRAFT DOUBLE DIP​

MELBOURNE has interest in trading its future first-round pick for one of the Fremantle's first-round selections this year as the Demons look to double-up on talent in the upcoming draft.

Fremantle list boss David Walls on Monday confirmed the Dockers have interest in flipping one of their three 2024 first-round picks into a 2025 first-round selection, depending on how their quest to land trade target Shai Bolton fares.

"That's definitely a chance. There's a lot of clubs keen to get back in so we'll see what happens at the end of trade period and see how many of the first-rounders we're still holding and if we've traded or not," Walls told Gettable Trade Radio on Monday.

"If we're still holding three, we'd definitely look to roll one forward because we think there's a strong market for it and we could get overs."

The Dockers have put forward picks 10 and 18 for the contracted Richmond star Bolton, as well as a five-year deal.

The Demons, who hold pick No.5, have aggressively used their future first-round picks in the past to strong effect and have also tabled their 2025 first pick for the in-demand Gold Coast pick 13 this year.

Melbourne list boss Tim Lamb said on Monday the Demons would "100 per cent" table the pick to other clubs if the Suns pursue other interest with their selection, which is likely.

"This is an outstanding draft. We'd love another pick. We think it's a ripper to be involved in," he said.


I would just walk away from the Bolton trade, tell Shai sorry we tried but not going to happen.

I would say to Freo, sure you can trade whatever picks you see fit but if you do then don't come back asking for Bolton because that trade is no longer viable, Shai will be staying at Richmond.
 
3:45PM - Saints PICKS HIS CLUB

After weighing up the decision and realising that he doesn't want to spend the rest of his days at St Kilda, Josh Battler has picked Hawthorn as his club of choice.

The St Kilda defender who has done nothing will join the Hawks as an unrestricted free agent, likely to land the Saints pick 8 for no reason.

The 26-year-old has played 131 games across eight seasons at St Kilda, including the Wizard Cup Grand Final.

He is from South Australia.
Saints PICKS HIS CLUB

After weighing up the decision and realising that he doesn't want to spend the rest of his days at St Kilda, Josh Battler has picked Hawthorn as his club of choice.

The St Kilda defender who has done nothing will join the Hawks as an unrestricted free agent, likely to land the Saints pick 8 for no reason.

The 26-year-old has played 131 games across eight seasons at St Kilda, including the Wizard Cup Grand Final.

He is from South Australia.
 
I would just walk away from the Bolton trade, tell Shai sorry we tried but not going to happen.

I would say to Freo, sure you can trade whatever picks you see fit but if you do then don't come back asking for Bolton because that trade is no longer viable, Shai will be staying at Richmond.
100% Walk away

Shai is contracted for 4 years and we hold him to his contract
He comes back and plays - Simple
 
So Twomey claiming Freo might trade one of their first round picks to Melbourne for their future 1st - which obviously is pick 11.

Great news for us IMO - if they do that trade it means Bolton stays.

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Great news that we have a player running around not giving a shit and not living up to his potential?

He has to go. Because he has top tier value on the trade market and because he's not the type of player you rebuild a list from the ground up with.

He is the type of player you secure when you're close to winning a flag. Ie not this list currently or likely for the next 3-4 years
 
Laura Kane
explaining to the clubs with her formula on how the free agency, drafting and compensation system works.
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"A man buys a horse for $60. He sells the horse for $70. He then buys the horse back for $80. And he sells the horse again for $90. In the end, how much money did the man make or lose? Or did he break even"?
 
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I would just walk away from the Bolton trade, tell Shai sorry we tried but not going to happen.

I would say to Freo, sure you can trade whatever picks you see fit but if you do then don't come back asking for Bolton because that trade is no longer viable, Shai will be staying at Richmond.
Agreed. But disappointed with both gold coast and freo acting like fools on players they chased. I'd tell them trades have to happen tomorrow, 3 firsts for Bolton and the 2 firsts for Rioli and that from Wednesday we focus on other deals, like moving picks to get brisbanes first for example. We are the logical choice for that one since not bidding at pick 1 is worth about 500 points. Let's focus on moving up and leaving the clowns for the show. Tell rioli and Bolton to front up day 1 of preseason.
 
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