List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 5

[59Stanley]

Hoping so mate, impressed with what I've seen so far.

Me too even quicker

 

[Tackle Bag]

If we’re throwing up fantasy trades for Dusty, here’s mine:

Sydney give us pick 14 and 18.
We give Dusty and a late second rounder.

Throw in a some later round pick swaps to balance it out as needed.

Gives us cap space and good picks to either hit the draft or trade away for a Tom Green

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type.

We could go along way to completing list rebuild inside two years with that draft hand

 

[Mr Magic]

I 100% agree, plus Dusty is one of the most marketable players in the AFL. Will bring in heaps of cash to GWS. I think this would also factor into the trade.

Certainly get the attention of other areas in Sydney

 

[Mr Magic]

If we’re throwing up fantasy trades for Dusty, here’s mine:

Sydney give us pick 14 and 18.
We give Dusty and a late second rounder.

Throw in a some later round pick swaps to balance it out as needed.

Gives us cap space and good picks to either hit the draft or trade away for a Tom Green type.

We could go along way to completing list rebuild inside two years with that draft hand

Thats a dud deal I would not trade Dusty for 14 and 18

People need to get some perspective. Dusty is better than Chris Judd let alone T Kelly. What if Dusty plays to forty? WE look like idiots and I hope Dusty does play to forty

Apart from getting it done, Dusty is box office

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

I 100% agree, plus Dusty is one of the most marketable players in the AFL. Will bring in heaps of cash to GWS. I think this would also factor into the trade.

I was thinking that too. But then I thought I believe one reason, and makes sense, he wants to be able to go places and NOT be seen. If a Sydney team or the AFL are thinking of using him as a marketing package, I doubt he would go for it.

 

[Mr Magic]

I was thinking that too. But then I thought I believe one reason, and makes sense, he wants to be able to go places and NOT be seen. If a Sydney team or the AFL are thinking of using him as a marketing package, I doubt he would go for it.

Franklin and Lockett achieved nothing in Sydney

 

[Morro]

I was thinking that too. But then I thought I believe one reason, and makes sense, he wants to be able to go places and NOT be seen. If a Sydney team or the AFL are thinking of using him as a marketing package, I doubt he would go for it.

This.

He wouldnt get anywhere near the protection at a Sydney club that he gets at the RFC.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

If we’re throwing up fantasy trades for Dusty, here’s mine:

Sydney give us pick 14 and 18.
We give Dusty and a late second rounder.

Throw in a some later round pick swaps to balance it out as needed.

Gives us cap space and good picks to either hit the draft or trade away for a Tom Green type.

We could go along way to completing list rebuild inside two years with that draft hand

Most likely outcome if Swans bound.

 

[cairo tiger]

Most likely outcome if Swans bound.

dusty is worth more than that.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

dusty is worth more than that.

Depends on what we pay towards his contract.

 

[Tortured Tiger]

dusty is worth more than that.

Turns 32 in May next year so I would of thought that is pretty fair.

 

[Sol23]

Where did this dusty talk actually start? He’s just come back after taking leave and this is the shit they come up with. How about we leave it for now until we hear something solid.

 

[Pomsta]

Well dude you missed 2 important details we mentioned:

1. We pay a significant chunk of his salary

2. We would be willing to give our two second rounders to GWS as well to pry 2 of their top kids. Eg. Green, Taranto, Hopper

Both the above will be compensated by either picks or players. Does this sound more reasonable to you or are you still gonna freak out and insult your fellow supporters?

OK, let's turn it around a bit. Dusty is playing for GWS and wants to come to us. Their offer is Dusty and 2 2nd rounders, plus paying half of Dusty's contract, for Bolton and Balta. Would you take it? Because that is the equivalent of the deal that you have up here.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Where did this dusty talk actually start? He’s just come back after taking leave and this is the shit they come up with. How about we leave it for now until we hear something solid.

His manager ?

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Has to be Green we target if this goes ahead. He's the only mid on their list I can see being a true match winner. Taranto, Hopper great players but you wouldn't build a midfield around them imo. Green would be our foundation mid for 10 years.

I would do it for Callaghan if we must but Green would be the main target

 

[beema limapep]

Honestly what are people on? If Hopper was a Richmond player and asked for a trade we would want a 1st and a later pick for him. If Tom Green was a Richmond player and asked for a trade we would be asking for 2 top 10 picks at least. So you think we could get the equivalent of 3 1st round picks of which 2 are top 10 at least for a 30+ year old Dusty? God some Richmond fans are delusional.

Honestly what are people on? If Hopper was a Richmond player and asked for a trade we would want a 1st and a later pick for him. If Tom Green was a Richmond player and asked for a trade we would be asking for 2 top 10 picks at least. So you think we could get the equivalent of 3 1st round picks of which 2 are top 10 at least for a 30+ year old Dusty? God some Richmond fans are delusional.

Just because you are angry doesn't make you right.

Don't tempt fate with the oracle. You may find out you are horribly horribly wrong.

 

[sante]

No way known Giants or Swans give up players for a 30+ year old, especially young guns. Pipe dream stuff to even think it’s a possibility, but it’s no shock to me it’s the same nuffies posting crap all over the board, who are bringing these ridiculous trade ideas up.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

I was thinking that too. But then I thought I believe one reason, and makes sense, he wants to be able to go places and NOT be seen. If a Sydney team or the AFL are thinking of using him as a marketing package, I doubt he would go for it.

Not sure bout that

The Dusty of today is a very very different Dusty of 5 years ago
He is doing more media (prior to this year) and also alot of endorsements of products and is well on the way to "Brand Dusty Martin"
Its a Carr influence about increasing his profile and that only gets done with Dusty's approval.

Broadening his profile into sydney is a smart move if thats what the plan is and there has been no word from Carr as to knocking it on the head

 

[richoplzbreed]

Make no mistake the club have been sniffing around Tom Green

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for years. Anyone with Kayo can watch Michael Green on open Mike where he talks about the Tiger's working on hashing out a deal with GWS for Tom Green

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up until the last minute before the draft. Add that to Gale getting busted catching up with Michael Green recently, Balmey spluttering on talking tigers last year when Tom Green

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to Richmond came up. I'm convinced sooner or later he will end up at Punt Rd, hopefully sooner. If not at the end of next year he and Riccardi are out of contract I'd hope the club would offer a good trade where Riccardi is the steak knives and solve 2 deficiencies in one go.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Make no mistake the club have been sniffing around Tom Green for years. Anyone with Kayo can watch Michael Green on open Mike where he talks about the Tiger's working on hashing out a deal with GWS for Tom Green up until the last minute before the draft. Add that to Gale getting busted catching up with Michael Green recently, Balmey spluttering on talking tigers last year when Tom Green to Richmond came up. I'm convinced sooner or later he will end up at Punt Rd, hopefully sooner. If not at the end of this year next year he and Riccardi are out of contract I'd hope the club would offer a good trade where Riccardi is the steak knives and solve 2 deficiencies in one go.

I love Dusty and think he is the best ever richmond player i have seen
But if Dusty wanted to leave and it was a straight swap for Green-Dusty

I would let him go

 

[Noidnadroj]

I think ‘letting him go’ and what we’d demand depends a lot on if we believe we are in or out of flag contention. If we think we can launch at a flag again over the next 3-years then you’d make him honour his contract unless a godfather trade offer came along. You hang on to the games greatest ever finals and GF player if you think you’ll be participating at the pointy end. With Bolton and Dusty we’d have the 2 best mid-fwds in the competition so it’s not out of the question for us to be contending any season those 2 are working in tandem and Balta/Gibcus/Grimes/Vlastuin are patrolling the backline.

But if we fall away and are clearly not contending, then we’d be far more open to seeing what’s on the table.

Other teams have faltered terribly by not reading the tea leaves early enough as to the state of their list - eg. Roos keeping Goldstein a few years back, Hawks keeping Mitchell, Gunston and Breust… how handy would a few high draft picks aged 20yo be right now at those clubs? But the horse has bolted and those teams are stuck with the draft picks they get… which are barely better than all other teams.

We have to be careful we are not a cellar dweller in 2024 with Dusty injured / well past his prime thinking “imagine where we’d be if we traded Dusty for a first and second rounder 2-years ago….”

If .. and only if …. he’s keen to get to Sydney I’d hold him for 2023, see how our list refresh is looking and if we are not in contention make it happen for the benefit of all parties. If he’s got no interest in moving clubs I’d never entertain trading him out or ‘seeing what the market has to offer’ as it can ruin a clubs culture.


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[DoItForCaptBlood]

Not sure bout that

The Dusty of today is a very very different Dusty of 5 years ago
He is doing more media (prior to this year) and also alot of endorsements of products and is well on the way to "Brand Dusty Martin"
Its a Carr influence about increasing his profile and that only gets done with Dusty's approval.

Broadening his profile into sydney is a smart move if thats what the plan is and there has been no word from Carr as to knocking it on the head

Come to think of it, that was exactly my argument for the 'make Dusty cap't' thread!!

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

Doggies knocked back Bumbers first (pick 6) snd a future 2r for Dunkley.

Dunkley a big winner there.

 

[Mr Magic]

I think ‘letting him go’ and what we’d demand depends a lot on if we believe we are in or out of flag contention. If we think we can launch at a flag again over the next 3-years then you’d make him honour his contract unless a godfather trade offer came along. You hang on to the games greatest ever finals and GF player if you think you’ll be participating at the pointy end. With Bolton and Dusty we’d have the 2 best mid-fwds in the competition so it’s not out of the question for us to be contending any season those 2 are working in tandem and Balta/Gibcus/Grimes/Vlastuin are patrolling the backline.

But if we fall away and are clearly not contending, then we’d be far more open to seeing what’s on the table.

Other teams have faltered terribly by not reading the tea leaves early enough as to the state of their list - eg. Roos keeping Goldstein a few years back, Hawks keeping Mitchell, Gunston and Breust… how handy would a few high draft picks aged 20yo be right now at those clubs? But the horse has bolted and those teams are stuck with the draft picks they get… which are barely better than all other teams.

We have to be careful we are not a cellar dweller in 2024 with Dusty injured / well past his prime thinking “imagine where we’d be if we traded Dusty for a first and second rounder 2-years ago….”

If .. and only if …. he’s keen to get to Sydney I’d hold him for 2023, see how our list refresh is looking and if we are not in contention make it happen for the benefit of all parties. If he’s got no interest in moving clubs I’d never entertain trading him out or ‘seeing what the market has to offer’ as it can ruin a clubs culture.


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Just don't even know what to say about that.

We clearly are on different wave lengths.

If you have no faith in our youth just say it

Posters talking about JR and Dusty as if they are chump change, its amazing. And to think one brought up Ablett Jnr as a comparison, like erghh what??

 

[beema limapep]

LMAO on some posters wanting others to manage their feelings for them by demanding others don't post hypothetical trades for Dusty......on a trade thread......when there is a decent probability he will leave.

So fragile.