List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[Mutineer]

You're forgetting the emphasis now on speed in the midfield .....will be greater, once the last touch rule comes in

So you're advocating we should take another 181cm slow midfielder .....because one player made it ?

I understand & appreciate, you think he's a good player .....but we're talking about our midfield mix ....and the Club would be crucified if we took him .....what d'aloia does well, we don't need

Soligo will be better, more aggressive, and quicker

Who is the 181cm mid you're talking about, it's certainly not D'Alioa and where did I advocate we should pick him just referenced the similarities he has to Jack Graham prior to his draft and the reasons he was apparently overlooked....Recruiters got that one wrong you'd have to agree.

 

[Crow till I die]

You're forgetting the emphasis now on speed in the midfield .....will be greater, once the last touch rule comes in

So you're advocating we should take another 181cm slow midfielder .....because one player made it ?

I understand & appreciate, you think he's a good player .....but we're talking about our midfield mix ....and the Club would be crucified if we took him .....what d'aloia does well, we don't need

Soligo will be better, more aggressive, and quicker

If we take our current picks to the draft assuming its pick 3 or 4 and say pick 22 or 23..we simply have to take th ebest mid we can lay our hands on at pick 3 / 4 and surely we go one of the remaining good talls with our 2nd? after Thilthorpe and Fog (once Tex retires), that forward line looks very thin if one of those 2 go down injured. I am writing off Himmelberg and Frampton so don't consider either a viable option to plug a gap

 

[Mutineer]

If we take our current picks to the draft assuming its pick 3 or and say pick 22 or 23..we simply have to take th ebest mid we can lay our hands on at pick 3 / 4 and surely we go one of the remaining good talls with our 2nd? after Thilthorpe and Fog (once Tex retires), that forward line looks very thin if one of those 2 go down injured. I am writing off Himmelberg and Frampton so don't consider either a viable option to plug a gap

I'll be very surprised if Himmelberg doesn't get another contract even if it's only on a yearly basis.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Who is the 181cm mid you're talking about, it's certainly not D'Alioa and where did I advocate we should pick him just referenced the similarities he has to Jack Graham prior to his draft and the reasons he was apparently overlooked....Recruiters got that one wrong you'd have to agree.

His SANFL WWT Bio has him at 181cm

I agree .. Graham has been a surprise packet ....even then it's taken a while for him to consolidate his role at RICH .....he was even considering a trade a few years back

The #1 wood with Graham is his heart .....just 100% everytime he's on the park ....a bit like Berry

 

[Mutineer]

His SANFL WWT Bio has him at 181cm

I agree .. Graham has been a surprise packet ....even then it's taken a while for him to consolidate his role at RICH .....he was even considering a trade a few years back

The #1 wood with Graham is his heart .....just 100% everytime he's on the park ....a bit like Berry

He's 186cm and 83kg already, surely you can see that if you've watched him play.

I think you need to watch D'Alioa play more if you're questioning his heart.

 

[NSolis]

I'll be very surprised if Himmelberg doesn't get another contract even if it's only on a yearly basis.

Himmelberg and Frampton will be very interesting contracts. Frampton has had a good season in the SANFL and we don't have many players in that age bracket. Might be we will keep both of them another year.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

If we take our current picks to the draft assuming its pick 3 or 4 and say pick 22 or 23..we simply have to take th ebest mid we can lay our hands on at pick 3 / 4 and surely we go one of the remaining good talls with our 2nd? after Thilthorpe and Fog (once Tex retires), that forward line looks very thin if one of those 2 go down injured. I am writing off Himmelberg and Frampton so don't consider either a viable option to plug a gap

I'm a big gee for Jefferson ....almost a clone of ESS's Harrison Jones .....great hands and leap at 195cm

He'll be top 10 easily

Agree though, it appears a good group of mids will be available at our pick 3/4

 

[WaynesWorld19]

He's 186cm and 83kg already, surely you can see that if you've watched him play.

I think you need to watch D'Alioa play more if you're questioning his heart.

Where did I say that .....I don't trust any heights publicised .... I just went off the WWT website

I still don't want him .....and we won't be getting him ....not sure why we're discussing him TBH

 

[Mutineer]

Where did I say that .....I don't trust any heights publicised, just going off the WWT website

I still don't want him .....and we won't be

Hope you're a better judge of who we won't take than last year if that's the case.....because he certainly wouldn't be my pick for our 1st but I wouldn't be too disappointed if we took him with our 2nd even though it's not my preference.

 

[Sanders]

I do because drafting post Nicks has been excellent, your blanket statement ends once Nicks starts, and you are not using those players in your example.

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Nicks has nothing to do with our drafting so what’s your motivation for trying to suggest otherwise?

 

[Sanders]

It's his strategy and he is on the committee. I don't believe the separation between recruiters and coach. It's ridiculous to have them separate. It's not Kevin Costner.

Edit: If I'm wrong, I'll cop that, but for now I just don't believe it. Also heard Rahilly yesterday saying he loves the draft, will be looking closely.

There’s no if

Recruitment and coaching have been separated for over 2 decades now across the league.

Recruitment is a much longer runway than coaching, and the complete and absolute separation (as exists at Adelaide) is to stop short termism impacting the long recruitment timeline

 

[Jeffcrowe]

There’s no if

Recruitment and coaching have been separated for over 2 decades now across the league.

Recruitment is a much longer runway than coaching, and the complete and absolute separation (as exists at Adelaide) is to stop short termism impacting the long recruitment timeline

Even Reid would have more say in who Ogilvie picks than Nicks

And ultimately it’s Ogilvie’s call

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I'm a big gee for Jefferson ....almost a clone of ESS's Harrison Jones .....great hands and leap at 195cm

He'll be top 10 easily

Agree though, it appears a good group of mids will be available at our pick 3/4

Agree , he’s top 10 for sure in my book

Just moves like an AFL player and also like his upside physically and his set shot routine

 

[Geoffa32]

So do I.

I'd settle for:

1st pick - Mattaes Phillipou WWT/SA - 192cm 83kg goalkicking midfielder/forward with decent foot skills, great hands in tight, vice like hands overhead, footy smarts and a turn of pace.

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2nd pick - Charlie Clarke Sandringham Dragons/VM - 182cm 75kg high impact goalkicking small forward/midfielder with great acceleration and speed, top end pressure, strong tackler capable of midfield minutes.

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Pick 3 - Max Michalanney Norwood/SA - 3rd Tall intercepting defender with good hands overhead, good agility, good foot skills, plenty of upside to come physically.

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Really like the look of Phillipou.


Could we finally have a big bodied mid?

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[Rory Walkerfield]

Really like the look of Phillipou.


Could we finally have a big bodied mid?

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Nek minnit - AFC select Harry Lemmey with pick 3. Wow, they went early with that one. And a tall forward/ruck to boot…

 

[Mutineer]

Agree , he’s top 10 for sure in my book

Just moves like an AFL player and also like his upside physically and his set shot routine

Cadman>>Jefferson.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Cadman>>Jefferson.

Going to be fascinating

Cadman will be better early , more mature ready to go

Jefferson for me long term

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Cadman>>Jefferson.

Also - Is any club taking Lemmey before pick 30 ? Another fascinating watch

 

[Mutineer]

Also - Is any club taking Lemmey before pick 30 ? Another fascinating watch

I think someone is certain to, might even be us if he happened to get through to our 2nd.

Recruiters will be across his health issues re his bout of Covid that reportedly hit him very hard.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I think someone is certain to, might even be us if he happened to get through to our 2nd.

Recruiters will be across his health issues re his bout of Covid that reportedly hit him very hard.

Pretty risky I reckon , even though I get the setback

He’d want to have some form on the board by years end that is higher level than SANFL U18s as I can’t remember an early pick key forward struggling in top age year then producing at AFL level

 

[jackster83]

Going to be fascinating

Cadman will be better early , more mature ready to go

Jefferson for me long term

Would you change your username to Jeffcrowerson?

 

[hugecannon]

Pretty risky I reckon , even though I get the setback

He’d want to have some form on the board by years end that is higher level than SANFL U18s as I can’t remember an early pick key forward struggling in top age year then producing at AFL level

Could his skill set translate to playing CHB?

We’re not exactly flush with KP depth at either end of the ground.

 

[Mutineer]

Could his skill set translate to playing CHB?

We’re not exactly flush with KP depth at either end of the ground.

If we want a KPD prospect we could delist Borlase who I don't think will make it AFL level and rookie SA/Centrals Tall utility Brodie Tuck 194cm 91Kg another December birthday youngster who will likely add a couple of cm's in the next year or so, mobile and a great contested mark, also quite adaptable in that he's equally good up forward.

Surprised he hasn't got more of a run at the Nationals given his age and ability to handle the upgrade to Centrals reserves late in the season where in his 5 Reserves games he has taken 33 marks (11 contested)....playing in Centrals U18's and reserves who are both bottom of the SANFL ladder hasn't helped either.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Could his skill set translate to playing CHB?

We’re not exactly flush with KP depth at either end of the ground.

The times I’ve seen him this year he’s lacked competitiveness which is a concern

Don’t expect him to be at his best given his setbacks but for me he’s not showing enough to draft him

 

[Mutineer]

Finally Brodie Tuck and Will Verrall getting a look in...and Tom Scully

21

Tom Scully

Age

33

Ht

181cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

9.9

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.5

5star

CL

2.3

4star

D

12.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

5.1

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.1

2star

CL

0.8

3star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.8

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

4.6

5star

CL

3.8

5star

Torrens University SA U18 Team - Game 4​

Sunday July 24
WA v SA | Optus Stadium, Perth | 12:15pm SA time
Live broadcast on Fox Footy and live stream on AFL.com.au
SOUTH AUSTRALIA
F: Jake Walker (Glenelg), Tom Scully

21

Tom Scully

Age

33

Ht

181cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

9.9

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.5

5star

CL

2.3

4star

D

12.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

5.1

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.1

2star

CL

0.8

3star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.8

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

4.6

5star

CL

3.8

5star

(West), Ashton Moir (Glenelg)
HF: Mattaes Phillipou (Eagles), Isaac Keeler (North), Ben Ridgway (Glenelg)
C: Luca Slade (Sturt), Adam D’Aloia (Eagles), Billy Dowling (North)
HB: Tyson Walls (Norwood), Max Michalanney (Norwood), Jakob Ryan (Glenelg)
B: Shaun Bennier (North), Adam Deakin (Central), Alex Holt (Sturt)

R: Harry Barnett (West), Nick Sadler (Sturt), Archie Lovelock (Glenelg)
INT: Will Verrall (South), Will Patton (West), Jack Delean (South), Kobe Ryan (West), Brodie Tuck (Central)
IN: Slade, Ridgway, Delean, Verrall, Tuck, Scully, Deakin
OUT – Lemmey, Duncan, Foster, Blacker, Pedler, Barkla, Marshall