List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[Chase13]

Really like the look of Phillipou.


Could we finally have a big bodied mid?

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We just have to get this guy phillipou looks something special but got funny feeling west coast may want too
what do we think ? We need another first rounder for Ollie holland then midfield footings in place

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Can't sell you Toby Murray as a Ruck/Forward can I?
November birthday, not 19 yet

As you know I like the Murray’s ! Seen him play a little bit , don’t mind him

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Gonna watch the dragons play on Saturday because it’s literally down the road, will post if I see anything good

Plenty of good players at the dragons , who they playing ?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

We just have to get this guy phillipou looks something special but got funny feeling west coast may want too
what do we think ? We need another first rounder for Ollie holland then midfield footings in place

I reckon our 2nd rounder can nail a good midfielder or mid / forward

I wouldn’t be using next years draft capital as top end next year looks promising

 

[Mego Red]

I've seen him compared to Jack Graham who they said the same about and I think that's spot on...looking at his weaknesses instead of the many things he he does well.

If we had a third pick before Max and we'd already grabbed a inside-outside mid and a tall, then it makes sense. I think he's a definite AFL quality footballer.

 

[Mego Red]

Most clubs were happy with anything before 20 is fair game, no idea why they pushed it back to 40 as it basically makes academies a waste of time an effort because if you develop them correctly another club is the beneficiary and you only keep them if they're considered super raw and not worth a too 40 pick.

I think it also needs to be something that can help sides who are rebuilding - perhaps you can claim a player if you're not a finalist in their draft year.

We're facing increasingly long periods for sides who begin rebuilds - there's just not enough ability to improve your list quickly.

 

[Mego Red]

That's a bit of a stretch Jeff, because it is not even close to being true
McInerney the only one that is a good ruckman that came from the rookie draft
Draper and O'Brien also rookies but I wouldn't class those as good ruckman

Don't like Marshall?

 

[George Kramer]

I think it also needs to be something that can help sides who are rebuilding - perhaps you can claim a player if you're not a finalist in their draft year.

We're facing increasingly long periods for sides who begin rebuilds - there's just not enough ability to improve your list quickly.

Bullshit. You just need to draft well, which we haven’t and you’ve got to be a club players want to go to

 

[Mutineer]

Gonna watch the dragons play on Saturday because it’s literally down the road, will post if I see anything good

Should be a ripper game, you will see plenty of the top end and later draftable talent.

Main ones I'll be focussing on.

Dragons
#2 Charlie Clarke
#3 Will Ashcroft
#15 Ben Hempel
#16 Harry Sheezel

Falcons
#5 Jhye Clark
#9 Ted Clohesy
#21 Will Parkhouse
#53 Oliver Northam

 

[Mutineer]

Plenty of good players at the dragons , who they playing ?

Falcons, Ashcroft and Jhye Clark going head to head, plenty of top end talent going around.

 

[Dewy006]

Would love for us to be proactive and start having some Crows mouthpieces in the media lobbying for a Priority pick for us if North gets one, even if they awarded us the ability to match a Keeler bid anywhere that would be a huge win.

 

[maxlilly]

Don't like Marshall?

He is averaging 18 hit outs per game this year.
Very average for a ruckman

 

[Mutineer]

He is averaging 18 hit outs per game this year.
Very average for a ruckman

Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact the Saints play 2 ruckmen whenever Ryder's fit would it?

Marshall is a very good ruck and very good around the ground as well.

 

[maxlilly]

Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact the Saints play 2 ruckmen whenever Ryder's fit would it?

Marshall is a very good ruck and very good around the ground as well.

My point was that the club haven't spent a good draft pick on a ruckman for 20 years.
Yes, some clubs may get lucky getting a ruckman off the rookie list but you rarely get a good one.
It probably depends on how important you think a ruckman is to your team

 

[Sanders]

Bullshit. You just need to draft well, which we haven’t and you’ve got to be a club players want to go to

I think you need a lot more than that. Drafting well is a minimum, but that doesn’t get you far on its own

When teams just get players like Daicos, Darcy, Green, JUH etc just dumped in their laps then you need a lot more than you just hit & hope from the draft

 

[Crow till I die]

I think you need a lot more than that. Drafting well is a minimum, but that doesn’t get you far on its own

When teams just get players like Daicos, Darcy, Green, JUH etc just dumped in their laps then you need a lot more than you just hit & hope from the draft

Then lets keep our collective fingers crossed young Welsh comes on in leaps and bounds to be the pick 1 in 2 years time and we get him as a father son. Mind you, I could see the AFL working this one out sometime next year when the writing is on the wall, should Welsh be projecting as such, just in time for them to gut the father son rule so we become the first side to not get exclusive rights to a top rated F/S kid

 

[DJ75]

Would love for us to be proactive and start having some Crows mouthpieces in the media lobbying for a Priority pick for us if North gets one, even if they awarded us the ability to match a Keeler bid anywhere that would be a huge win.

We would have politely asked already, been told no, and thanked them for their time.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

My point was that the club haven't spent a good draft pick on a ruckman for 20 years.
Yes, some clubs may get lucky getting a ruckman off the rookie list but you rarely get a good one.
It probably depends on how important you think a ruckman is to your team

Yep kind of agree that at some point it’s worth drafting one early if they are an elite talent - can’t see any elite ruck talents in this draft though

I’m also of the opinion that Thilthorpe is going to be an elite ruck even though he will spend large minutes forward as well

 

[Gtowncrow]

Yep kind of agree that at some point it’s worth drafting one early if they are an elite talent - can’t see any elite ruck talents in this draft though

I’m also of the opinion that Thilthorpe is going to be an elite ruck even though he will spend large minutes forward as well

TT looks like an early career Brad Ottens to me.

Started as a forward with moderate success but eventually became an excellent rucking forward.

Geelong had their celebrated stars through their golden age but Ottens was their MVP. IMO.

I'd be delighted if TT had a similar career.

 

[Big Dub]

We just have to get this guy phillipou looks something special but got funny feeling west coast may want too
what do we think ? We need another first rounder for Ollie holland then midfield footings in place

If West Coast do, I think we can probably live with Tsatas.

 

[Crow till I die]

If West Coast do, I think we can probably live with Tsatas.

Or maybe Wardlaw if North don't grab him?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Good to see Nick Sadler starting in the middle. Going well.

Does he project as a decent neat and tidy SANFL midfielder in your opinion or could he play higher?

 

[Big Dub]

Or maybe Wardlaw if North don't grab him?

Don't see any of them available at our pick, but I'd be happy with whomever west coast left of Wardlaw or Tsatas (or Ashcroft).

Hewitt needs to pick his game up to tempt west coast . . .

 

[Crow till I die]

Don't see any of them available at our pick, but I'd be happy with whomever west coast left of Wardlaw or Tsatas (or Ashcroft).

Hewitt needs to pick his game up to tempt west coast . . .

If we maintain pick 3 (4 after ashcroft bid), it has to be one of tsatsas, wardlaw or phillipou if we go local. Any of those guys are going to improve us. Then there are guys like hewett, clark, sheezel, busslinger, cadman so by the looks of things the first 7 -10 picks all look to be quality (meaning port are likely to get a goodun...said through gritted teeth)

 

[rabidcrow]

D'Aloia sounds alot like a younger version of Hately

Or Jack Graham


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