List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

George · Aug 24, 2021

Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino
Sam Alabakis
Jack Lonie
Paul Hunter

Traded;
Luke Dunstan

Retired;
Jake Carlisle
Dylan Roberton
Shaun McKernan
James Frawley

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – Monday November 15

List Lodgement 1
Friday October 29

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Wednesday November 3 - Tuesday November 9

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Wednesday November 10

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Thursday November 11 - Monday November 15

AFL Pre-Season Commences (First to fourth year players)
Monday November 22

National Draft
Round 1: Wednesday November 24 (7pm)
Round 2 – completion: Thursday November 25 (7pm - late)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26 (3.20pm)

Final List Lodgement
Monday November 29

Pre-Season Commences (All other players)
Monday 6 December

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
December - March (tbc)

Pre-Season Christmas Break
Sunday 19 December - Sunday 9 January

George · Oct 13, 2021

Thank God that is over.

Gosaints12 · Oct 13, 2021

It’s time to see if Brisbane still need those two first rounders, or whether or not they want up.

Brisbane get:
Pick 9, a future 2nd, (there it goes) and pick 62

Saints get:
Pick 14, 18 and pick 60

I’d then trade with Sydney

Sydney get:
Pick 14, 60, 66, 67 and a future 3rd round

Saints get:
Pick 31, 39, a future 2nd, (back again) and a future 4th round, (we love a future 4th)

I’d then trade with North

Saints get:
Pick 42, 47 and a future 2nd

North get:
Pick 31, 39 and a future 2nd, (swans)

Saints hand
18, 42, 47

I’d then a trade with Hawthorn;

Saints get:
Pick 24, pick 59, pick 65, a future 3rd, (frem) and a future 4th, (GC)

Hawks get:
Pick 18, pick 42 and a future 4th, (ADEL)

I’d trade with Geelong

Saints get:
Pick 30 and 32

Geelong get:
Pick 24, 47 and future 4th, (saints)

Saints pick 30, 32, 59, 65

If bids are done at 21 and 22 then we would need (1329 points to match).

This would lose 30, 32 and 59, but gain pick 50

This would leave the crew with the two NGAs pick 50 and 65, while having our future 1st, Norths future 2nd, Freo future 3rd, GC future 4th and our future 5th.

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HunterClarksHeadband · Oct 13, 2021

Still a bit flat about the the Clav delisting. The fact we had to play him a few times this year.. who the hell gets a call up if it isn’t Joyce?

Baker_for_PM · Oct 13, 2021

Munga said:
According to Ralph we, "Literally did nothing" this trade period. Well they better "literally" correct the AFL and all other media outlets . How do these people "literally" have jobs in the media?

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To Ralph,

Minga · Oct 13, 2021

As I’ve been saying in the other threads, our biggest wins thus far have been off-field with coaching appointments and restraint in trading/focusing on the draft. It’s smart management. Time to focus on within the club instead of quick fixes.

For example, if we want to be a team that employs both Ben and Max King in 2023 then we have to use 2022 as a year where we consolidate what Saints footy is, and where we stand. Do that next year, then you can take it to the next level with Bing or other similar luxuries, and so on. In the meantime, let’s see some internal growth and youth development. We can be a finals threat with that alone. Bring on draft night!

Mindtraveller · Oct 13, 2021

Wonder what the AFL will do to try and make it interesting.

Can't do much if there's nothing of worth it there. Interested in the drafting/DFA

Sainterz12 · Oct 13, 2021

Gosaints12 said:
It’s time to see if Brisbane still need those two first rounders, or whether or not they want up.

Brisbane get:
Pick 9, a future 2nd, (there it goes) and pick 62

Saints get:
Pick 14, 18 and pick 60

I’d then trade with Sydney

Sydney get:
Pick 14, 60, 66, 67 and a future 3rd round

Saints get:
Pick 31, 39, a future 2nd, (back again) and a future 4th round, (we love a future 4th)

I’d then trade with North

Saints get:
Pick 42, 47 and a future 2nd

North get:
Pick 31, 39 and a future 2nd, (swans)

Saints hand
18, 42, 47

I’d then a trade with Hawthorn;

Saints get:
Pick 24, pick 59, pick 65, a future 3rd, (frem) and a future 4th, (GC)

Hawks get:
Pick 18, pick 42 and a future 4th, (ADEL)

I’d trade with Geelong

Saints get:
Pick 30 and 32

Geelong get:
Pick 24, 47 and future 4th, (saints)

Saints pick 30, 32, 59, 65

If bids are done at 21 and 22 then we would need (1329 points to match).

This would lose 30, 32 and 59, but gain pick 50

This would leave the crew with the two NGAs pick 50 and 65, while having our future 1st, Norths future 2nd, Freo future 3rd, GC future 4th and our future 5th.

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Time to end this thread I think..

Ephemeral Hope · Oct 13, 2021

Minga said:
As I’ve been saying in the other threads, our biggest wins thus far have been off-field with coaching appointments and restraint in trading/focusing on the draft. It’s smart management. Time to focus on within the club instead of quick fixes.

For example, if we want to be a team that employs both Ben and Max King in 2023 then we have to use 2022 as a year where we consolidate what Saints footy is, and where we stand. Do that next year, then you can take it to the next level with Bing or other similar luxuries, and so on. In the meantime, let’s see some internal growth and youth development. We can be a finals threat with that alone. Bring on draft night!

I wanna see a big impact from the new development coach

Sippa · Oct 13, 2021

Gosaints12 said:
It’s time to see if Brisbane still need those two first rounders, or whether or not they want up.

Brisbane get:
Pick 9, a future 2nd, (there it goes) and pick 62

Saints get:
Pick 14, 18 and pick 60

I’d then trade with Sydney

Sydney get:
Pick 14, 60, 66, 67 and a future 3rd round

Saints get:
Pick 31, 39, a future 2nd, (back again) and a future 4th round, (we love a future 4th)

I’d then trade with North

Saints get:
Pick 42, 47 and a future 2nd

North get:
Pick 31, 39 and a future 2nd, (swans)

Saints hand
18, 42, 47

I’d then a trade with Hawthorn;

Saints get:
Pick 24, pick 59, pick 65, a future 3rd, (frem) and a future 4th, (GC)

Hawks get:
Pick 18, pick 42 and a future 4th, (ADEL)

I’d trade with Geelong

Saints get:
Pick 30 and 32

Geelong get:
Pick 24, 47 and future 4th, (saints)

Saints pick 30, 32, 59, 65

If bids are done at 21 and 22 then we would need (1329 points to match).

This would lose 30, 32 and 59, but gain pick 50

This would leave the crew with the two NGAs pick 50 and 65, while having our future 1st, Norths future 2nd, Freo future 3rd, GC future 4th and our future 5th.

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Not sure if this is having a laugh or not

Sippa · Oct 13, 2021

saintsrfreak said:
Wtf lol? They've traded out a contracted Ladhams for a 4 spot swap in the teen picks. This is like when they gave us Dougal + Ryder + pick 18 for pick 10

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Well that wasn’t it at all ....

They gave us 10 future 4th Ryder Howard
For
12,18 future 3rd

saintsrfreak · Oct 13, 2021

Sippa said:
Well that wasn’t it at all ....

They gave us 10 future 4th Ryder Howard
For
12,18 future 3rd

Thanks champ

Sippa · Oct 13, 2021

saintsrfreak said:
Thanks champ

No worries chief

HunterClarksCandyShop · Oct 13, 2021

gringo2011 said:
Same with Petrevski-Seaton as well...... Dow, O'Brien etc. They know how to ruin careers.

So do we, unfortunately.

JediSaint · Oct 13, 2021

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Yeah he is. I would like Michael Hartley also as a DFA. More a genuine 1 on 1 defender.

I know it might be an unpopular opinion but I'd consider Casboult as a rookie. Can play any end of the ground.
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Im with you Hangdog.
We have a new fitness and a development coach and a pre season to get these players into shape.
The club needs another KPD and players with an engine and endurance to run out a game.

IMO; I would have a look at these guys to bring in as depth and an opportunity if they want it.
Rucking options with a KPD, plus a bit of speed run and carry.
Michael Hartley -

Blake Schlensog

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...ake-schlensog-looms-elite-key-position-player

Patrick Naish

Draft prospects: Patrick Naish

AFL.com.au run through the top prospects heading into the 2017 NAB AFL National Draft

www.fremantlefc.com.au

JediSaint · Oct 13, 2021

BrutThough said:
We might not have the pick in the draft to get him but there has to be a key defender out there we can try.

I really like the looks of this kid and he could develop into a great KPD.

Sainter93 · Oct 13, 2021

Gosaints12 said:
It’s time to see if Brisbane still need those two first rounders, or whether or not they want up.

Brisbane get:
Pick 9, a future 2nd, (there it goes) and pick 62

Saints get:
Pick 14, 18 and pick 60

I’d then trade with Sydney

Sydney get:
Pick 14, 60, 66, 67 and a future 3rd round

Saints get:
Pick 31, 39, a future 2nd, (back again) and a future 4th round, (we love a future 4th)

I’d then trade with North

Saints get:
Pick 42, 47 and a future 2nd

North get:
Pick 31, 39 and a future 2nd, (swans)

Saints hand
18, 42, 47

I’d then a trade with Hawthorn;

Saints get:
Pick 24, pick 59, pick 65, a future 3rd, (frem) and a future 4th, (GC)

Hawks get:
Pick 18, pick 42 and a future 4th, (ADEL)

I’d trade with Geelong

Saints get:
Pick 30 and 32

Geelong get:
Pick 24, 47 and future 4th, (saints)

Saints pick 30, 32, 59, 65

If bids are done at 21 and 22 then we would need (1329 points to match).

This would lose 30, 32 and 59, but gain pick 50

This would leave the crew with the two NGAs pick 50 and 65, while having our future 1st, Norths future 2nd, Freo future 3rd, GC future 4th and our future 5th.

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LennyHayes77 · Oct 14, 2021

Actually think with a full preseason and a few more games at the top level, PHunter could be a pretty serviceable ruck. Just because Melbourne had Gawn and Jackson doesn't mean we need 2 guns in the ruck (although we actually do) but if injuries happen, I've seen teams win premierships with some seriously spuddy rucks running around!

maanco · Oct 14, 2021

Gosaints12 said:
It’s time to see if Brisbane still need those two first rounders, or whether or not they want up.

Brisbane get:
Pick 9, a future 2nd, (there it goes) and pick 62

Saints get:
Pick 14, 18 and pick 60

I’d then trade with Sydney

Sydney get:
Pick 14, 60, 66, 67 and a future 3rd round

Saints get:
Pick 31, 39, a future 2nd, (back again) and a future 4th round, (we love a future 4th)

I’d then trade with North

Saints get:
Pick 42, 47 and a future 2nd

North get:
Pick 31, 39 and a future 2nd, (swans)

Saints hand
18, 42, 47

I’d then a trade with Hawthorn;

Saints get:
Pick 24, pick 59, pick 65, a future 3rd, (frem) and a future 4th, (GC)

Hawks get:
Pick 18, pick 42 and a future 4th, (ADEL)

I’d trade with Geelong

Saints get:
Pick 30 and 32

Geelong get:
Pick 24, 47 and future 4th, (saints)

Saints pick 30, 32, 59, 65

If bids are done at 21 and 22 then we would need (1329 points to match).

This would lose 30, 32 and 59, but gain pick 50

This would leave the crew with the two NGAs pick 50 and 65, while having our future 1st, Norths future 2nd, Freo future 3rd, GC future 4th and our future 5th.

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So we trade pick 9 for a upgrade of future 2nd and 3rd rounders?

KingsRansom · Oct 14, 2021

Gosaints12 said:
It’s time to see if Brisbane still need those two first rounders, or whether or not they want up.

Brisbane get:
Pick 9, a future 2nd, (there it goes) and pick 62

Saints get:
Pick 14, 18 and pick 60

I’d then trade with Sydney

Sydney get:
Pick 14, 60, 66, 67 and a future 3rd round

Saints get:
Pick 31, 39, a future 2nd, (back again) and a future 4th round, (we love a future 4th)

I’d then trade with North

Saints get:
Pick 42, 47 and a future 2nd

North get:
Pick 31, 39 and a future 2nd, (swans)

Saints hand
18, 42, 47

I’d then a trade with Hawthorn;

Saints get:
Pick 24, pick 59, pick 65, a future 3rd, (frem) and a future 4th, (GC)

Hawks get:
Pick 18, pick 42 and a future 4th, (ADEL)

I’d trade with Geelong

Saints get:
Pick 30 and 32

Geelong get:
Pick 24, 47 and future 4th, (saints)

Saints pick 30, 32, 59, 65

If bids are done at 21 and 22 then we would need (1329 points to match).

This would lose 30, 32 and 59, but gain pick 50

This would leave the crew with the two NGAs pick 50 and 65, while having our future 1st, Norths future 2nd, Freo future 3rd, GC future 4th and our future 5th.

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Can someone cut this one off at the bar, please

Sun Ra · Oct 14, 2021

sunny3193 said:
So, for 2022 we currently have:

1 #1st RDP,
1 #2nd RDP,
1 #3rd RDP,
2 #4th RDP.

I wonder what else GC will want ?

Ephemeral Hope · Oct 14, 2021

Sun Ra said:
I wonder what else GC will want ?

All of the above but 2023

Saintbloke · Oct 14, 2021

LennyHayes77 said:
Actually think with a full preseason and a few more games at the top level, PHunter could be a pretty serviceable ruck. Just because Melbourne had Gawn and Jackson doesn't mean we need 2 guns in the ruck (although we actually do) but if injuries happen, I've seen teams win premierships with some seriously spuddy rucks running around!

Tend to agree

The_Steadier · Oct 14, 2021

LennyHayes77 said:
Actually think with a full preseason and a few more games at the top level, PHunter could be a pretty serviceable ruck. Just because Melbourne had Gawn and Jackson doesn't mean we need 2 guns in the ruck (although we actually do) but if injuries happen, I've seen teams win premierships with some seriously spuddy rucks running around!

The problem being that those flag winning teams with spud rucks had amazing midfields.

Our midfield (steele aside) gets destroyed by virtually every top 8 team without a gun ruck like ryder giving us a massive boost.

Personally I don't think we have the midfield cattle to change that equation, because the 3 most likely potential gun mids we have: gresh, jones and clark I don't think can make the leap to genuine A grade mids like steele.

(Gresh and jones through constant injury, clark through lack of talent/application)

sammm · Oct 14, 2021

Tommy Wigs said:
It’s not over yet!

Yes, as picks can still be traded over the next month.

sammm · Oct 14, 2021

Munga said:
According to Ralph we, "Literally did nothing" this trade period. Well they better "literally" correct the AFL and all other media outlets . How do these people "literally" have jobs in the media?

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probably becuase 4th round picks mean nothing

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