List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

[George]

Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

25

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

27

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

28

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

33

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

33

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

36

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

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[Ephemeral Hope]

I'm disappointed he didn't work out for us but I hope he does come good. I certainly wouldn't hold a grudge.

at this point I'd just be happy to see him playing footy and not getting concussed. he's had one of the roughest runs at it. Bloke deserves to string together a decent amount of games and enjoy some of it

 

[luca77]

Good for him. Would love to see him succeed at Sydney,

But given what we are learning about concussions and their long term effects, I will be cringing every time he receives contact.

I don't feel any better about hearing he was spending time in defence.
How many times do we see defenders copping a knee to the back of the head when playing in front?

 

[jwikked]

Hahahaha that would be right. He’ll come good for someone else

I doubt it, I’m not sure he would have been a star even without the concussion issues.

 

[luca77]

I doubt it, I’m not sure he would have been a star even without the concussion issues.

I think his forward craft was good. He'd kick plenty (assuming his kicking improved) playing under Max's armpits.
If Sharman comes on and Max stays healthy, we won't miss Paddy - even if he kicks a few elsewhere. Part of me will still hate watching it, even if I'm happy for him.

 

[phantom13]

I doubt it, I’m not sure he would have been a star even without the concussion issues.

Think it was a genuine miss from our drafting team TBH. Hope he comes good cause hes not a bad player but i always thought taking him at number 1 was a bad call.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Think it was a genuine miss from our drafting team TBH. Hope he comes good cause hes not a bad player but i always thought taking him at number 1 was a bad call.

Paddy showed significant more promise than many care to admit (or choose to remember).

Even outside of the concussions, he just never got a fair run at showing that promise consistently.

 

[phantom13]

Paddy showed significant more promise than many care to admit (or choose to remember).

Even outside of the concussions, he just never got a fair run at showing that promise consistently.

Cool.

I didnt want him in his final 18s year year so perhaps he could have gone on to prove me wrong but not currently.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Not disagreeing.
Just wondering (anyone can answer):
How many clubs have a backup KPD close to 200cm that can actually 'football'. (Not including forwards who can go back if the KPD goes down).
The Eagles do, not sure the Lions do (Adams is probably similar height to the guys we've got).
Maybe someone with time can make a yes/no list - or just a yes or no list (whichever is shortest).

Also wondering (as I switched off in disgust a few times), does Lynch get more of his goals against us body to body, or on the lead?

Just trying to work out if recruiting some plonker because he's big and plays in defence is actually worth it.

Unless someone has some evidence somewhere, i'm going to stick my neck out and say Clav was/is 195cm. The same height as Joyce.

 

[busso_mick]

Unless someone has some evidence somewhere, i'm going to stick my neck out and say Clav was/is 195cm. The same height as Joyce.

Maybe Clav should stick his neck out too, it might get him 3cm.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Maybe Clav should stick his neck out too, it might get him 3cm.

Wouldn't help him get his arms higher.

I maintain that Jason Blake, ( 189 cm ) was a neckless freak with long arms and legs .
His head was low, but his arms got right up there.

 

[#gosaintas]

Paddy showed significant more promise than many care to admit (or choose to remember).

Even outside of the concussions, he just never got a fair run at showing that promise consistently.

You had to look really hard with rose coloured glasses on to see the promise a number 1 draft pick would need to show I reckon

 

[George]

Paddy showed significant more promise than many care to admit (or choose to remember).

Even outside of the concussions, he just never got a fair run at showing that promise consistently.

Short memories, hindsight is a wonderful thing, etc

 

[Joffaboy]

Paddy showed significant more promise than many care to admit (or choose to remember).

Even outside of the concussions, he just never got a fair run at showing that promise consistently.

There was a game he was absolutely torching Rance v the Tigers, and for a change didn't get concussion but broke a collarbone.

The guy had very good potential and without concussion he would have made a very good forward. Would have been a miss like Billings but even moreso as Petracca was more of a need.

But he wasn't a skills bust but an injury bust which made the miss even worse. If we had him would probably would have Bailey Smith not Max and no shot at Ben.
So while I wanted Petracca over Paddy, it is not a fact that Paddy was no good.

 

[jwikked]

Paddy showed significant more promise than many care to admit (or choose to remember).

Even outside of the concussions, he just never got a fair run at showing that promise consistently.

He had like 2 good games

 

[L_W_P]

Wouldn't help him get his arms higher.

I maintain that Jason Blake, ( 189 cm ) was a neckless freak with long arms and legs .
His head was low, but his arms got right up there.

The inverse of Tim English.

English measures as a very tall man but so much of his height is in his neck which means his arms sit lower than even the average ruck. This is why he gets beaten so often. He's actually the same size as Bontempelli.

 

[Joffaboy]

He had like 2 good games

As factual as this thread

Roast - Max King is a bust

Should have drafted Ben. Sorry folks but the bloke needs a massive rocket. Does he realise what legs are for. Hands are for marking but he doesn’t do that very well so maybe his legs are afflicted by the same deficiency. Convince me otherwise. Winx my ass. More like Fine Cotton.....

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[SaintsSeptember]

The inverse of Tim English.

English measures as a very tall man but so much of his height is in his neck which means his arms sit lower than even the average ruck. This is why he gets beaten so often. He's actually the same size as Bontempelli.

View attachment 1277034

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

You had to look really hard with rose coloured glasses on to see the promise a number 1 draft pick would need to show I reckon

No, just with eyes that see what a player could develop into if not for constant injury and horrendous luck.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

As factual as this thread

Roast - Max King is a bust

Should have drafted Ben. Sorry folks but the bloke needs a massive rocket. Does he realise what legs are for. Hands are for marking but he doesn’t do that very well so maybe his legs are afflicted by the same deficiency. Convince me otherwise. Winx my ass. More like Fine Cotton.....

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Wow, I know I've made some bad calls (Mark McGough winning a B&F the worst) but some people should be not only embarrassed but ashamed with what they posted there.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Wow, I know I've made some bad calls (Mark McGough winning a B&F the worst) but some people should be not only embarrassed but ashamed with what they posted there.

We all make mistakes and even some of us will even admit it , we all cant be perfect like some on here that have never made a wrong call ever

 

[CaptainRisky]

The inverse of Tim English.

English measures as a very tall man but so much of his height is in his neck which means his arms sit lower than even the average ruck. This is why he gets beaten so often. He's actually the same size as Bontempelli.

View attachment 1277034

You would want a better photo than that to show your point of view , there is 12 cm difference between them , so who has the longest torso and legs ?

 

[L_W_P]

You would want a better photo than that to show your point of view , there is 12 cm difference between them , so who has the longest torso and legs ?

Well my initial post was a bit of a piss take but there is some (flimsy) evidence that it's not far off...

Same body height as Patty Lipinski:



Max Gawn has to bend over to have his shoulders line up:

 

[CaptainRisky]

Well my initial post was a bit of a piss take but there is some (flimsy) evidence that it's not far off...

Same body height as Patty Lipinski:

View attachment 1277075

Max Gawn has to bend over to have his shoulders line up:

View attachment 1277076

I take it you kidding , now your out to 18cm difference in height , is it all in the neck ?

 

[L_W_P]

I take it you kidding , now your out to 18cm difference in height , is it all in the neck ?

Mostly, yeah.

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He's all neck, with a tiny little bonce on top of it. Notice the dead stare and the tight, pursed lips. Looks like the proverbial deer in headlights.

Now look at this specimen:


Notice the proportions. The rugged jawline. The wild hair of a man who cannot be contained. The soft eyes that say "I like to cuddle".

The Dogs took English with pick 19 of the 2016 draft. FIVE picks before Ben Long, who had been playing for their VFL team. He was right under their noses and they picked a squibby giraffe instead.

Why don't we hear more about THAT draft stuff up!?!

 

[kernelT]

Good for him. Would love to see him succeed at Sydney,

But given what we are learning about concussions and their long term effects, I will be cringing every time he receives contact.

I remember an interview with him a couple of years back that was absolutely harrowing… playing a game is not worth your health so I hope he doesn't make the wrong choice.