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Agree Fog was more physically developed than those boys. Having said that contested marking isn’t his strength. Traditional lead up forward is - and he has been playing in one of the worst offensive sides the comp has seen. Obviously we felt his fitness base was well off the pace as we rarely played him in his first two years - last year he went at about 32 goal season pace and we generally targeted Walker going forward. Great opportunity presents for him early in the year with Walker out. Assuming Thilthorpe is our number 1 then Fog growing into a 40/45 goal forward option is what we need - and he isn’t far away from that level. Certainly doesn’t look a bust too me at this stage - he just needs to continue to improve his impact and ideally have a 35/40 goal year this year. Would happily wager he kicks 35 assuming he plays a full year
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Nah, I'm not discounting anyone, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating and the eating is yet to come. This includes Dawson for mine. Small sample size of excellence last year. Hope that wasn't a flash in the pan.
I stand by my comment that if we have a high draft pick this year it should go on best available mid.
My opinion and I'm entitled to it.
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Great observation of Hately at that centre bounce.. the bloke looked lost.
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I reckon sparrow from Melbourne is worth a look, reminds me of a bigger jack viney, someone we could get into the midfield while still going to the draft for a fwd. I find it strange they have experimented with worrell fwd, especially with experience playing fwd as a junior. Maybe we should ask them next time they do a q and a.
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I want someone to do a short 10-15 second clip of the opening centre bounce of the last quarter of that game against Brissy the other day.. just to show how much of a ”slam it on the boot”, “kick in hope to no one in particular as long as it goes forward” panic merchant Rory Laird is.. he does what he did at that centre bounce more often than he doesnt and even when he doesnt have any real pressure on him..
I‘d make a clip of it myself.. but I’m ****n clueless on how you do it..
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this^
imagine trying to be a successful lead up forward with the way our midfielders tend to deliver the ball into the forward line!
We need a quality mid (over 180cm) AND a quality key forward. We need to go for the best of either at our top pick this year and look to get the other with trade, next year's top pick or (less likely) a later pick punt.
It doesn't all have to come this year, we aren't winning the flag just yet.
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Haha yeah I'd give Lairdy some slack because he does alot right aswel..
At the end of the day he's still an undersized mid that was pulled out of a back pocket purely because the rest of our midfield is rubbish
I think Crows getting Freeman across is a shrewd move. I dont believe there’s any chance he moves to South Australia JUST to try out the SANFL.
Monty that they’ve spoken to him about a possible spot on the list - maybe mid season draft or supp choice - something like that. But he’s not here for fun, he’s here to get back to AFL one way or the other. Useful player too.
Monty that they’ve spoken to him about a possible spot on the list - maybe mid season draft or supp choice - something like that. But he’s not here for fun, he’s here to get back to AFL one way or the other. Useful player too.
Elijah Hollands signed an extension until 2024 too. Sort of slipped under the radar.
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Imagine Seedsman goes on the long term injury list he's in
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Mid season is the earliest Freeman can make the list and another club could get him first. SPP was the only way to guarantee him a spot on our list and I'm pretty sure that period of signing on players ends today and we don't currently have a long term injury other than Seedsman who I'm sure we will give to mid season to get right anyway
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We have 5 more days by the looks of it but we do need to put Seedsman on LTI list first
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But under the rules the AFL look like adopting he could still play for us if Covid intervenes and we're short of fit players is my understanding?
Yes... but only if we have no fit players remaining from our senior or rookie lists.
It could happen, but given that almost our entire squad has now had COVID, it's probably (hopefully) unlikely.
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Based on what we've seen this pre-season and various injuries to key players, it's clear our list still has a lot of holes
Defence:
- We don't still have a firm grasp on who our 2nd and 3rd tall defenders will be. Ideally Doedee is more of a 4th tall. McAsey is failing, Worrell can't get near games and Frampton isn't the answer. Will Murray be the answer?
- We have a solid foundation of small defenders, running backs and medium types. We shouldn't be investing any more resources into this area and it's hard to see how we can fit in all of Brown, Jones and McPherson let alone other guys like Hamill, Milera and Parnell
Midfield
- Concerns everywhere. Lots of raw players but few have taken a grasp on their position yet (hopefully this will happen)
- Established midfield is too similar in player type. Ideally we'd only be playing one of Crouch, Sloane, Laird and Keays in the midfield at any one time. That's a big issue, and the pressure won't ease when Sloane retires. How do you fit Crouch, Keays and Laird into one position? Laird can no longer go back because our defense is stacked with smalls and he has a long contract. We need to be prepared to move on Crouch or Keays when the time is right even if they have given good service to the club during the rebuild.
- Schoenberg is the only young midfielder on our list that looks likely to develop into a starting player at this stage. Hately is tracking towards a bust. Too early to make a call on Pedlar and injuries are a concern. Question marks on whether Berry can establish himself (can we give him time that's not up forward thanks?). Then we have Taylor and Soligo which are unknowns. It would be great if Jones could transition back into a midfielder from defense.
- We lack outside class. Seedsman unlikely to play again and even if he did, he's 30. Dawson adds a bit but it's not enough, especially with questions over Milera. Sholl is tracking okay but not a certainty to make it. I think we clearly need another player who can distribute the ball with class on the outside and can play a role inside.
Forward:
- Holes everywhere. Like, every position needs more players
- We have one solid long term tall forward prospect in Thilthorpe. Frampton is a bust, Himmelberg won't make it and Fogarty is in a make or break year. At the very least we need to commit to playing one of our defenders up forward that can't get a game in defense (McAsey or Worrell) and then draft two more tall forwards, ideally top prospects.
- We have no clearly good long term small forward prospects. Rachele would be wasted there, he should be playing mid and forward. So who is our Charlie Cameron small? It's definitely not Murphy and unlikely to be Rowe or McAdam. We need to draft a fast, athletic small forward with elite goal sense.
- We also need more medium forwards. Cook looks a good prospect but beyond that we have nothing and that means relying too heavily on resting midfielders down there. Berry isn't a forward. Pedlar isn't a forward. We need a definite 4th tall/medium type.
Needs
1 good clearly AFL level tall defender
1 third tall type
1-2 elite inside/out midfielders with pace and/or class disposal (might be one on the list, but also need to hit the draft again)
1 elite disposal wingman
2 tall forwards, one being an elite top end draft prospect
2-3 small athletic forwards with goal sense that aren't just rebranded midfielders
1-2 genuine medium forwards
Don't Needs
Small defenders
Medium defenders
Half backs or running defenders
Primarily inside midfielders, especially shorter ones without standout athletic traits
Accumulator type midfielders
Experienced midfielders with a low cost to acquire
Defensive small forwards
Rucks
Defence:
- We don't still have a firm grasp on who our 2nd and 3rd tall defenders will be. Ideally Doedee is more of a 4th tall. McAsey is failing, Worrell can't get near games and Frampton isn't the answer. Will Murray be the answer?
- We have a solid foundation of small defenders, running backs and medium types. We shouldn't be investing any more resources into this area and it's hard to see how we can fit in all of Brown, Jones and McPherson let alone other guys like Hamill, Milera and Parnell
Midfield
- Concerns everywhere. Lots of raw players but few have taken a grasp on their position yet (hopefully this will happen)
- Established midfield is too similar in player type. Ideally we'd only be playing one of Crouch, Sloane, Laird and Keays in the midfield at any one time. That's a big issue, and the pressure won't ease when Sloane retires. How do you fit Crouch, Keays and Laird into one position? Laird can no longer go back because our defense is stacked with smalls and he has a long contract. We need to be prepared to move on Crouch or Keays when the time is right even if they have given good service to the club during the rebuild.
- Schoenberg is the only young midfielder on our list that looks likely to develop into a starting player at this stage. Hately is tracking towards a bust. Too early to make a call on Pedlar and injuries are a concern. Question marks on whether Berry can establish himself (can we give him time that's not up forward thanks?). Then we have Taylor and Soligo which are unknowns. It would be great if Jones could transition back into a midfielder from defense.
- We lack outside class. Seedsman unlikely to play again and even if he did, he's 30. Dawson adds a bit but it's not enough, especially with questions over Milera. Sholl is tracking okay but not a certainty to make it. I think we clearly need another player who can distribute the ball with class on the outside and can play a role inside.
Forward:
- Holes everywhere. Like, every position needs more players
- We have one solid long term tall forward prospect in Thilthorpe. Frampton is a bust, Himmelberg won't make it and Fogarty is in a make or break year. At the very least we need to commit to playing one of our defenders up forward that can't get a game in defense (McAsey or Worrell) and then draft two more tall forwards, ideally top prospects.
- We have no clearly good long term small forward prospects. Rachele would be wasted there, he should be playing mid and forward. So who is our Charlie Cameron small? It's definitely not Murphy and unlikely to be Rowe or McAdam. We need to draft a fast, athletic small forward with elite goal sense.
- We also need more medium forwards. Cook looks a good prospect but beyond that we have nothing and that means relying too heavily on resting midfielders down there. Berry isn't a forward. Pedlar isn't a forward. We need a definite 4th tall/medium type.
Needs
1 good clearly AFL level tall defender
1 third tall type
1-2 elite inside/out midfielders with pace and/or class disposal (might be one on the list, but also need to hit the draft again)
1 elite disposal wingman
2 tall forwards, one being an elite top end draft prospect
2-3 small athletic forwards with goal sense that aren't just rebranded midfielders
1-2 genuine medium forwards
Don't Needs
Small defenders
Medium defenders
Half backs or running defenders
Primarily inside midfielders, especially shorter ones without standout athletic traits
Accumulator type midfielders
Experienced midfielders with a low cost to acquire
Defensive small forwards
Rucks
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Came good this week... so more of this please.
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His intercept marking was good.. wasnt much else to write home about though.
Strawnie was aparently marking everything in the sanfl trial game, tap ruck work was great and he even kicked goals.. according to “Bigman” who was watching it live..
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It's a lot to try and put together, isn't it.
I think we need to keep giving opportunities to the defenders we have, and we don't look to acquire anyone there. If we still have a gap in two years, we can look at doing something.
I think we need to move one of the mids on for the draft capital to get Rankine. He seems more of a need than Luko.
We need to find out about McAsey and Worrall.
Personally, I think we need a couple of early firsts this year, plus a couple of seconds. I don't know how we get those premium mids and tall forwards otherwise.
After watching the pre-season getting a good look at Worrell, McAsey and Davis are a priority down back.
Worrell - if he could move into the Doedee 3rd/4th tall it would be ideal. He has speed and flair and at 195 is a decent height
McAsey - it would be ideal if this kid could become our 2nd tall. He is a smarter fottballer than Murray and has better skills, but has struggled badly. But we just need to get him into the side ASAP but he needs to show form in the SANFL.
Davis - shown a bit back end of last year and pre-season. He is smart user of his body, neat skills and at 188 is the same height as Doedee.
If these guys could come on it would allow for the great experiment to start, Dawson and Doedee to move into our starting midfield
Worrell - if he could move into the Doedee 3rd/4th tall it would be ideal. He has speed and flair and at 195 is a decent height
McAsey - it would be ideal if this kid could become our 2nd tall. He is a smarter fottballer than Murray and has better skills, but has struggled badly. But we just need to get him into the side ASAP but he needs to show form in the SANFL.
Davis - shown a bit back end of last year and pre-season. He is smart user of his body, neat skills and at 188 is the same height as Doedee.
If these guys could come on it would allow for the great experiment to start, Dawson and Doedee to move into our starting midfield
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I'm sure it's already been mentioned but Burgess is the key to this. If he can't get him to stay injury-free then no one can.
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I think we have to trade one of Laird, Crouch or Keays at a minimum, either the end of this year or next.
Personally, I'd hope GCS take Keays for Rankine.
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