List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part I

[pluggeranddoc]

Ah yes, because Hanners smokes ice…

Seriously misguided some of the tripe in here

In the words of Jack Dyer "I won't say anything in case I say something!"

 

[D2D3]

Video shows drunken heavily tattooed AFL star Dustin Martin 'threaten to stab a woman with a chopstick' in a trendy restaurant after a day at Stereosonic​

• Richmond Tigers Dustin Martin threatened to stab woman with chopsticks
• Martin was dining at trendy Melbourne restaurant Mr Miyagi on Saturday
• After he began 'acting offensively,' a woman asked him to settle down
• Martin proceeded to swear and threatened to stab her in the face
• After she said she would report him, Martin slammed his hand into the wall
• The woman, a Channel 7 producer, has since reported him to Richmond FC
• Martin admitted to being intoxicated and said he is 'deeply embarrassed'

If this had of been DeGoey he would hung and quartered.

I dunno, I thought they were light on De Goey when he was actually in police trouble 6 months ago. Interesting that the reaction has been so much stronger to the partying video.

 

[Premium]

I dunno, I thought they were light on De Goey when he was actually in police trouble 6 months ago. Interesting that the reaction has been so much stronger to the partying video.

Everyone has done stupid stuff in life and you regret it , because I know I have - but being star into days world you can't escape because everthing is usually caught on social media.

 

[PoppedCorn]

We don't need him
Draft or Taranto

 

[Premium]

We don't need him
Draft or Taranto

Now that would be a wiser move.

 

[Premium]

That's funny, my mail was he mainlined it.

Amazing how a fake news rumor can stick just through gossip on websites.

 

[TheOsprey]

I doubt there is any chance we are getting de Goey. Doesn’t matter if we are throwing money at him.

He’s already said before his preference is to stay at Collingwood and get a deal done there.

Pies need to act outraged to compensate for the media over reaction to everything.

When was the last time a high end player player left a big Vic club and joined Saints?

Interesting to see some comparisons here to Dusty in 2015, who was heavily linked to North at not long after that. A $10.5 mil deal over 7 years was reportedly pretty much done…..but he stayed a Tiger.

Same stuff happening here. If we have shown any interest the media reports will just be for his management to maximise the deal Pies offer him given the circumstances. Don’t get lead on by this.

 

[Diehard Saint]

I doubt there is any chance we are getting de Goey. Doesn’t matter if we are throwing money at him.

He’s already said before his preference is to stay at Collingwood and get a deal done there.

Pies need to act outraged to compensate for the media over reaction to everything.

When was the last time a high end player player left a big Vic club and joined Saints?

Interesting to see some comparisons here to Dusty in 2015, who was heavily linked to North at not long after that. A $10.5 mil deal over 7 years was reportedly pretty much done…..but he stayed a Tiger.

Same stuff happening here. If we have shown any interest the media reports will just be for his management to maximise the deal Pies offer him given the circumstances. Don’t get lead on by this.

Agree.
Doubt De Goey is de-goeying anywhere!

 

[Premium]

I doubt there is any chance we are getting de Goey. Doesn’t matter if we are throwing money at him.

He’s already said before his preference is to stay at Collingwood and get a deal done there.

Pies need to act outraged to compensate for the media over reaction to everything.

When was the last time a high end player player left a big Vic club and joined Saints?

Interesting to see some comparisons here to Dusty in 2015, who was heavily linked to North at not long after that. A $10.5 mil deal over 7 years was reportedly pretty much done…..but he stayed a Tiger.

Same stuff happening here. If we have shown any interest the media reports will just be for his management to maximise the deal Pies offer him given the circumstances. Don’t get lead on by this.

Players have had falling out in the past or just wanted to go home and moved - Lever , Jack Martin , Weller , Cerra , Saad , McGovern , Beams --- just this past couple years you seen guys like Dunkley , Papley and Neale wanted to be traded but just couldn't get the deal they wanted.
We are one club at the moment that would draw players because of the closeness of the squad and the coaches a basically good guys that get along with everyone who tows the line.
So DeGoey or guys like Amon , Dunkley , Taranto , Brayshaw could all find new homes next year.

 

[Premium]

Agree.
Doubt De Goey is de-goeying anywhere!

Never know we might not see him again this year , he might pull a Ben Simmons.

 

[TheOsprey]

Players have had falling out in the past or just wanted to go home and moved - Lever , Jack Martin , Weller , Cerra , Saad , McGovern , Beams --- just this past couple years you seen guys like Dunkley , Papley and Neale wanted to be traded but just couldn't get the deal they wanted.
We are one club at the moment that would draw players because of the closeness of the squad and the coaches a basically good guys that get along with everyone who tows the line.
So DeGoey or guys like Amon , Dunkley , Taranto , Brayshaw could all find new homes next year.

None of these examples are top end players who left bigger Victorian clubs and went to Saints.

Lever, Martin, Cerra and McGovern left interstate clubs to go to a bigger Vic club. Weller went home for massive coin and Neale wanted to go back to Freo where he played before. Saad swapped one big club for another. Papley and Dunkley also wanted to move to a bigger Victorian club.

When was the last time a player deemed in the top end of talent at Pies, Carlton, Essendon, Richmond, Geelong or the likes left the club and moved to St Kilda or even requested a trade to us?

Amon and Taranto much more likely than de Goey given a move back to Victoria seems their highest priority along with contract offer. History shows that a top player isn’t leaving Collingwood to come to us.

 

[Klaatu]

Based on current form & age of Ryder i doubt we will offer him another years contract, so maybe a priority would be to pry out another fringe ruckman across we tried to get Xerri who is now staying at Nth, we tried to get Hayden McClean from Syd he might worth visiting again as he has slipped back in order.

McClean
Meek
Sam Hayes
Sweet
Flynn

 

[Atomboy]

None of these examples are top end players who left bigger Victorian clubs and went to Saints.

Lever, Martin, Cerra and McGovern left interstate clubs to go to a bigger Vic club. Weller went home for massive coin and Neale wanted to go back to Freo where he played before. Saad swapped one big club for another. Papley and Dunkley also wanted to move to a bigger Victorian club.

When was the last time a player deemed in the top end of talent at Pies, Carlton, Essendon, Richmond, Geelong or the likes left the club and moved to St Kilda or even requested a trade to us?

Amon and Taranto much more likely than de Goey given a move back to Victoria seems their highest priority along with contract offer. History shows that a top player isn’t leaving Collingwood to come to us.

Probably Aaron Hammill 20 years ago….

 

[BrutThough]

Based on current form & age of Ryder i doubt we will offer him another years contract, so maybe a priority would be to pry out another fringe ruckman across we tried to get Xerri who is now staying at Nth, we tried to get Hayden McClean from Syd he might worth visiting again as he has slipped back in order.

McClean
Meek
Sam Hayes
Sweet
Flynn

Lobb fwd/ruck with Marshall rucking.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Lobb fwd/ruck with Marshall rucking.

That would a great pairing.

I was a great believer in Marshall as a forward/ruck but I reckon Lobb is a better option in that spot and hopefully Marshall can then go back to his 2019 form as a pure ruckman.

The question (as always) is what picks, how much $'s and how long a contract do you offer to a 30 yo?

 

[Klaatu]

How did Harmes go last night? just asking for a friend.

 

[BrutThough]

That would a great pairing.

I was a great believer in Marshall as a forward/ruck but I reckon Lobb is a better option in that spot and hopefully Marshall can then go back to his 2019 form as a pure ruckman.

The question (as always) is what picks, how much $'s and how long a contract do you offer to a 30 yo?

His value is really had to determine. He has 1 year left on his current deal but tried to leave last year. He is currently being overpaid on 700k a year so who knows if he is willing to take a cut to get back to the east coast.

 

[phantom13]

Amazing how a fake news rumor can stick just through gossip on websites.

Not for nothing but the Hanners "rumours" have a bit more weight than just a few people on gossip websites. I didnt see him racking in the flesh but i saw it on video and met many many people in my time in Sydney that personally knew him through partying and had no idea who he was.

A Notorious eastern suburbs party boy (and for those who dont know, the eastern suburbs are notorious for partying, they had cocaine Uber ffs).

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I dunno, I thought they were light on De Goey when he was actually in police trouble 6 months ago. Interesting that the reaction has been so much stronger to the partying video.

Its the cumulative effect.

Its going light on DeGoey, only to be rewarded with him going off partying.
If he hadn't had the police trouble, people wouldn't be caring so much about bali.

 

[phantom13]

Its the cumulative effect.

Its going light on DeGoey, only to be rewarded with him going off partying.
If he hadn't had the police trouble, people wouldn't be caring so much about bali.

100% but id add the Sexual Assault and the smacking a cabby (i think that was him).

He has a long history of getting slaps on the wrist but hes not on his own there.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Probably Aaron Hammill 20 years ago….

Andrew Lovett more recently.

 

[gringo2011]

His value is really had to determine. He has 1 year left on his current deal but tried to leave last year. He is currently being overpaid on 700k a year so who knows if he is willing to take a cut to get back to the east coast.

He’s had a good year. If he plays like is now he’s a bargain at $700k, if plays like most of his career he’s on double pay.

 

[Sun Ra]

100% but id add the Sexual Assault and the smacking a cabby (i think that was him).

He has a long history of getting slaps on the wrist but hes not on his own there.

You've mixed him up with Mark Latham.

 

[phantom13]

You've mixed him up with Mark Latham.

Or Michael Hurley...

Been a few

 

[L_W_P]

Based on current form & age of Ryder i doubt we will offer him another years contract, so maybe a priority would be to pry out another fringe ruckman across we tried to get Xerri who is now staying at Nth, we tried to get Hayden McClean from Syd he might worth visiting again as he has slipped back in order.

McClean
Meek
Sam Hayes
Sweet
Flynn

Add Strachan from the Crows as well.

More than held his own vs Ryder/RoMa when we played a couple of weeks back and had some very nice tap work.

Would be 27yo next year but could be a fine option to pair with RoMa while Heath keeps growing.