Rumour 2023 Rumours and Speculation (Rumours total 33!, 1 BIG FISH ALERT last October 4th) (7 confirmed! 11 Busted!)

[WeeBlake]

If we can swap BZT for Doedee I’d count that as a win, just on availability and risk

 

[1990crow]

If we can swap BZT for Doedee I’d count that as a win, just on availability and risk

Not for me. Doedee could at least play half back. BZT can't.

 

[Mutineer]

Not for me. Doedee could at least play half back. BZT can't.

Yep I'm not getting all this BZT vibe at all..

 

[1990crow]

Yep I'm not getting all this BZT vibe at all..

I guess we will find out but if we swap Doedee for BZT I'm completely unsure what Reid is doing.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Just on BZT - I assume he’s been playing against the best, tallest KPF most weeks, given their other KPD has been 193cm Jayden Laverde

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Jayden Laverde

Age

28

Ht

193cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.8

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.8

4star

MG

152.8

2star

D

8.8

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

116.5

2star

D

11.2

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

3.6

5star

MG

141.2

3star

Things should be a bit easier for him if he’s playing next to one of Butts/Murray/Keane at all times, I assume?

 

[Mostyn]

Yep I'm not getting all this BZT vibe at all..

I think BZT can be your second tall defender, as long as there's a bigger stopper next to him. He can't take the primary forward of the opposition.

I don't hate it.

 

[WeeBlake]

Not for me. Doedee could at least play half back. BZT can't.

He looked ok when we played them at marvel this year

 

[Jarman3]

Nah that has to be fibs, otherwise it’s gotta count as blatant tanking

Nah, not when it's one of the Big 4 Vic clubs.

 

[Jarman3]

He looked ok when we played them at marvel this year

We made a lot of their players look OK that day.

 

[Mutineer]

I think BZT can be your second tall defender, as long as there's a bigger stopper next to him. He can't take the primary forward of the opposition.

I don't hate it.

I don't love it at all.

 

[WeeBlake]

Essendon board saying he’s not a first kpd but a decent second one

 

[1990crow]

Essendon board saying he’s not a first kpd but a decent second one

He's really not. Butts is better and I'm not convinced by Butts.

 

[Mutineer]

He looked ok when we played them at marvel this year

Every Essendon player looked OK that day...

 

[Danger in Texas]

I don’t think getting BZT will impact whether we keep Doedee or not, FWIW

 

[fortunatecrow]

If we can swap BZT for Doedee I’d count that as a win, just on availability and risk

I had assumed that Essendon think they are getting Doedee, and so think they don't need Zerk-Thatcher

 

[WeeBlake]

Why would we want Doedee (won’t play most of next year, two knee recos) over BZT, especially given our bevy of 2-3rd kpd types? Surely if we think we need another one we’d want one who can play.

 

[1970crow]

Dawson played midfield on his first game vs Fremantle play year, hardly touched the ball. Clearly it was the intention.

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Shelved after half a game, how very rebuild/development phase.

 

[1970crow]

As a team that hasn’t made finals in 6 years, maybe our glasshouse doesn’t need stones chucking around inside it

If Reid and Ogilvie were trading us to 3 of 4 years in the top 4, Bicks would be demanding statues outside HQ.

 

[1970crow]

Dawson struggled in his first game as it was his first game of the preseason. After that he did not struggle, it all came down to Nicks using him in defensive as he wanted to bolster the defence, to suggest otherwise is rewriting history and lacking in basic football knowledge.

Then this off-season Nicks trained Dawson less in the midfield than the previous year and he again stupidly started Dawson in defence. After 2 losses and being on the receiving end of a struggling midfield, Dawson requested a change, proved to be one of the best mids in the game, turned our season around and the irony is Nicks gets the credit for the revolutionary move.

Nobody with a clue credits Nicks for the Dawson to mid move.

 

[Geoffa32]

Dawson struggled in his first game as it was his first game of the preseason. After that he did not struggle, it all came down to Nicks using him in defensive as he wanted to bolster the defence, to suggest otherwise is rewriting history and lacking in basic football knowledge.

Then this off-season Nicks trained Dawson less in the midfield than the previous year and he again stupidly started Dawson in defence. After 2 losses and being on the receiving end of a struggling midfield, Dawson requested a change, proved to be one of the best mids in the game, turned our season around and the irony is Nicks gets the credit for the revolutionary move.

Dawson was used in stoppages last year. I remember him having issues with a defender close to him.

He fixed that issue.

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[GameofSloanes]

Nobody with a clue credits Nicks for the Dawson to mid move.

Im not even sure Nicks does

 

[FR0GGY]

Great we are swapping someone who didn’t want to be here for someone who didn’t want to try.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Murray should be back by mid season in 2024, knee recos these days are closer to 9 month recovery timeframes, not 12. There is new science that shows the graft reaches full strength after 9 months, not 12.

Are they?

Thought they were closer to 12 months still?

Wasn't Doedee out of AFL for a full year?

It's not only about being ready to play, but match fit for AFL.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I think BZT can be your second tall defender, as long as there's a bigger stopper next to him. He can't take the primary forward of the opposition.

I don't hate it.

Worrell is more suited imo than BZT as a 2nd tall defender...

If BZT can't play well on the big tall forwards, then he is not a need.

 

[Gtowncrow]

Murray should be back by mid season in 2024, knee recos these days are closer to 9 month recovery timeframes, not 12. There is new science that shows the graft reaches full strength after 9 months, not 12.

Just asking the experts in here but is there a difference (generally) in recovery time between heavier players vs lighter ones?
I ask as my un-expert opinion is that the ligaments and bones of the knee would vary in size and strength, very little. It's the muscle mass which is where the major difference are. If this is correct, then maybe Nick might need longer due to having more bulk for his new knee to support.

Over to the experts though.