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I see the usual suspects who previously hyped up super spuds like Ronin O'Connor and Dean Gore have already jumped onboard the Burgess train.
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Yes, us usual suspects that like to feel optimistic about a Club we support .....at least till the season starts
 
My issue is that we're bringing over an aging list clogger when we have little to no spots on our main list.

You can try and spin it however you like, but unless we can somehow perform some magic trick and get this guy on our rookie list then it makes absolutely zero sense why we're bringing him across.
It's purely as cover for next year when our KPDs may not play some/all of the year. Mature body that can compete. Would've been better to get an actual good KPD but the only one we had a chance with re-signed with Freo
Separate to this we need another young KPD on the books to develop
 
It's purely as cover for next year when our KPDs may not play some/all of the year. Mature body that can compete. Would've been better to get an actual good KPD but the only one we had a chance with re-signed with Freo
Separate to this we need another young KPD on the books to develop

They're currently so sparse that a club is going to pay Ben McKay nearly $800k a year.
 

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He's an upgrade on Himmelberg but offers nothing for our best 22. A side grade for when Himmelberg leaves

Is he though?

He's 28 in a month's time and can't get a game at Gold Coast, I'm not sure he's an upgrade.

If this was a delisted player who we get a free hit at as a rookie then I wouldn't mind, but our list spots are at a premium. My concern is that we look like moving on Borlase because we don't have room on our list, but then we're bringing in this guy.

It also doesn't leave much room for other trades so I suspect that moving on Burgess means that we're out of the race for Chol.
 
Has more runs on the board than the other two

Yes, us usual suspects that like to feel optimistic about a Club we support .....at least till the season starts
Burgess likely won’t amount to much of an AFL career for us, but we know what we’re getting - versatile, experienced injury coverage, which is needed for a side (hopefully) going into a contention window

Gore and O’Connor were young players we hoped could amount to something (Gore because he was a piece of the Danger deal, ROC because he was a tall mid), but didn’t. As I said, completely different scenarios to Burgess
 
It's purely as cover for next year when our KPDs may not play some/all of the year. Mature body that can compete. Would've been better to get an actual good KPD but the only one we had a chance with re-signed with Freo
Separate to this we need another young KPD on the books to develop
We are pursuing Harrison Petty or at least have asked the question according to media reports?
 
Is he though?

He's 28 next year, can't get a game at Gold Coast. I'm not sure he's an upgrade.

If this was a delisted player who we get a free hit at as a rookie then I wouldn't mind, but our list spots are at a premium. My issue is that we look like moving on Borlase because we don't have room on our list, but then we bringing in this guy.

It also doesn't leave much room for bringing in other players either so I suspect that moving on Burgess means that we're out of the race for Chol.
Burgess can actually take a mark consistently, for one

We’ll still be able to bring in two or three other new players (whether they’re trade-ins or high pick draftees), which is better than last year
 
Burgess likely won’t amount to much of an AFL career for us, but we know what we’re getting - versatile, experienced injury coverage, which is needed for a side (hopefully) going into a contention window

Gore and O’Connor were young players we hoped could amount to something (Gore because he was a piece of the Danger deal, ROC because he was a tall mid), but didn’t. As I said, completely different scenarios to Burgess
Keays and Hinge couldn't get games at Brisbane. there's been plenty of players struggling for games at their club that have moved on and had good careers.
 
Is he though?

He's 28 in a month's time and can't get a game at Gold Coast, I'm not sure he's an upgrade.

If this was a delisted player who we get a free hit at as a rookie then I wouldn't mind, but our list spots are at a premium. My concern is that we look like moving on Borlase because we don't have room on our list, but then we're bringing in this guy.

It also doesn't leave much room for other trades so I suspect that moving on Burgess means that we're out of the race for Chol.

Elliott Himmelberg - 107 career SANFL goals

Chris Burgess - 124 VFL goals the last two years alone
 
My issue is that we're bringing over an aging list clogger when we have little to no spots on our main list.

You can try and spin it however you like, but unless we can somehow perform some magic trick and get this guy on our rookie list then it makes absolutely zero sense why we're bringing him across.
Did you think the same when we brought over someone like Hinge? Or recruited a mature aged Nick Murray? Burgess has shown enough at AFL level, is dominant at VFL level and is young enough to play a few more seasons. Perfect depth and obviously won’t cost any significant draft capital or salary.

He may not be needed at all, may end up surprising us and become best 22, there is no risk here.
 

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He's an upgrade on Himmelberg but offers nothing for our best 22. A side grade for when Himmelberg leaves
Burgess is an upgrade on Borlaise, not Himmelberg .....at least I hope that's the thinking
 
Did you think the same when we brought over someone like Hinge? Or recruited a mature aged Nick Murray? Burgess has shown enough at AFL level, is dominant at VFL level and is young enough to play a few more seasons. Perfect depth and obviously won’t cost any significant draft capital or salary.

He may not be needed at all, may end up surprising us and become best 22, there is no risk here.
Burgess is contracted .....what's it going to take, pick-wise to get him .....and obviously, since it'll be a trade, he'll take up a list spot .....so I'd consider that a risky move
 
The increasing possibility that Parnell can spend an extra year on the rookie list also gives us another spot.

We currently have 2, 3 if Parnell stays a rookie. EH going leaves us 4. We seem intent on packaging our seconds to move further up the order. I could see us only going into the draft with 2 picks.

This doesn't take into account the fact we can move Hamill or Bond (example) to the rookie list, or contracted players leaving (Like Sholl)

List spots are fine. Now if McAdam or Doedee ended up staying, we'd have a problem.
 
I'd love to be proven wrong, but I suspect that Burgess requesting a trade to us is more than likely a sign that we're out of the equation with Chol.
They’re completely different trades and have never been linked together. The reports around Chol are that he’s an upgrade on Himmelberg, as that’s the only way we release him to the Giants. Burgess has always been mentioned as coverage down back given the Murray injury.
 
Why would we get a guy that's just kicked over 120 VFL goals the last two seasons and play him in defense?
Because he's proven not to be an AFL Forward ????? ......we've got form, Rutten and Billy "premiership player" Frampton
 
I'd love to be proven wrong, but I suspect that Burgess requesting a trade to us is more than likely a sign that we're out of the equation with Chol.
I doubt that, we been reported to have had interest in both from a fair way out...
 
Is he though?

He's 28 in a month's time and can't get a game at Gold Coast, I'm not sure he's an upgrade.

If this was a delisted player who we get a free hit at as a rookie then I wouldn't mind, but our list spots are at a premium. My concern is that we look like moving on Borlase because we don't have room on our list, but then we're bringing in this guy.

It also doesn't leave much room for other trades so I suspect that moving on Burgess means that we're out of the race for Chol.
How ? Hately gone, mcpherson gone , mc adam , doodee, Eh and that ,s who we know about atm so 5 list spots and newchurch , brown borlase , bringing in burgess main list and tobi murray ssp or rookie list

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