List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

You like losing?

Moderators never lose.

 

[Strahany]

Moderators never lose.

This isn’t like golf

 

[SaintJ]

Spot on. That’s the biggest difference from the Richo/Watters years. Back then, none of the kids looked like or threatened to become A graders. They ranged from solid B graders to delist material. Remember when the likes of Ledger, Spencer White and Dunnel were our high hopes?

F£€k me the crazy hype around Ledger anyway we got to see him in the seniors.. the blow ups if didn’t

 

[George]

This isn’t like golf

Agreed, only losers play golf

 

[Premium]

F£€k me the crazy hype around Ledger anyway we got to see him in the seniors.. the blow ups if didn’t

Drafting is far more sophisticated now with the TAC cup a good sounding for the players and the draft combine sorts out any players weakness's.

So you can really compare past players to current players data and really screw down on who they think can cut it.
We have also have improved our recruitment staff and they are starting to really find some gems.

Nas looks to be one of our best top 10 draft picks we have had in a very long time and with getting Owens and Windhager in the same draft it looks to be one of our best drafts in a very long time and we have not even seen the likes of Keller , Hotton , Adams or Els.

 

[Minga]

Drafting is far more sophisticated now with the TAC cup a good sounding for the players and the draft combine sorts out any players weakness's.

So you can really compare past players to current players data and really screw down on who they think can cut it.
We have also have improved our recruitment staff and they are starting to really find some gems.

Nas looks to be one of our best top 10 draft picks we have had in a very long time and with getting Owens and Windhager in the same draft it looks to be one of our best drafts in a very long time and we have not even seen the likes of Keller , Hotton , Adams or Els.

And funnily enough Nas wasn’t even a top 10 draft pic

He would definitely be top 10 on a redraft though. As would Owens.

Windy has shown first rounder quality too.

We did very well.

 

[Miha]

And funnily enough Nas wasn’t even a top 10 draft pic

He would definitely be top 10 on a redraft though. As would Owens.

Windy has shown first rounder quality too.

We did very well.

Add Hotton and Keeler to that group once they break into the team and we’ll be the draft kings

 

[austinnn]

Agreed, only losers play golf

Totally. The whole reason it's called GOLF in the first place is because you only play it if you're a backwards flog.

 

[Veer Right]

Coffield unlikely to be at the saints next year

Hope the club re-evaluates their position and signs him on for what he wants. We paid pick 8 and he was sitting right near the top with total and average marks in the 2020 season. Every player going down the list that year is a regular senior player for their respective sides and quality.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Twomey is an amateur darts player

 

[bird_man]

If the plan is to trade out players for first round draft picks than it already sounds flawed to me.

One, we don't really have anyone of value outside of possibly Gresham and two, the draft looks quite average and shallow this year.

I think the only way we get something decent for Gresham is if he goes to a bottom side with plenty of cap space.

Unfortunately we have missed the boat with Clark, Coff is worth very little and no one is giving up a first for Howard.

The only way I see it happening is trading out a heap of players and hoping we can put all those picks together to move up the draft, which is never easy and is going to put a decent hole in the list to get a pick in an average draft.

 

[jwikked]

If we're going full rebuild then Hill and Wood should both be added to the gettable list as well in my opinion.

I wouldn’t be trading Wood. Seems to be good for club culture and one of the few genuine leaders around the club.

 

[Klaatu]

If the plan is to trade out players for first round draft picks than it already sounds flawed to me.

One, we don't really have anyone of value outside of possibly Gresham and two, the draft looks quite average and shallow this year.

I think the only way we get something decent for Gresham is if he goes to a bottom side with plenty of cap space.

Unfortunately we have missed the boat with Clark, Coff is worth very little and no one is giving up a first for Howard.

The only way I see it happening is trading out a heap of players and hoping we can put all those picks together to move up the draft, which is never easy and is going to put a decent hole in the list to get a pick in an average draft.

Howard has very good trade value Sydney sniffing around.

 

[Klaatu]

I wouldn’t be trading Wood. Seems to be good for club culture and one of the few genuine leaders around the club.

Agree here, Wood stay's until he retires he has been good for the younger guy's coming through.

 

[austinnn]

Twomey is an amateur darts player

He cuts his own hair and lives in a caravan outside AFL eating cat food and spending all his money on paying for the drinks of different club insiders, but I do appreciate his dry wit, and he's pretty on the money with his work.

 

[austinnn]

Howard has very good trade value Sydney sniffing around.

They desperately need a backman - were hoping for Barrass, but he bizarrely chose to participate in this intriguing art instalation called "West Coast Eagles In Freefall" (Adam Simpson, 2020-2023)

 

[botts]

They desperately need a backman - were hoping for Barrass, but he bizarrely chose to participate in this intriguing art instalation called "West Coast Eagles In Freefall" (Adam Simpson, 2020-2023)

They will have a crack a McKay. There first would have to be in the conversation for Howard. This was my mail as well.

 

[gringo2011]

he's 3 years older than owens tho?

Jesus you guys are like a bunch of Neil Mitchell listeners. Owens is looking high potential. He might become a star. Newcombe is already way ahead of him he's being talked about in the AA conversation. It has nothing to do with age. You don't get participation awards in footy.

 

[gringo2011]

If we're going full rebuild then Hill and Wood should both be added to the gettable list as well in my opinion.

Why the **** are we going full rebuild. Not sure I've got it in me to start again.

 

[gringo2011]

What is the argument going on about Newcombe? Both can be guns can't they?

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They can both be stars but one is closer. It's a very basic concept but apparently harder to grasp for some.

 

[gringo2011]

Agree here, Wood stay's until he retires he has been good for the younger guy's coming through.

His cultural value is worth 10x more than his trade value.

 

[gringo2011]

They will have a crack a McKay. There first would have to be in the conversation for Howard. This was my mail as well.

I reckon we'd want to replace him first. It looks like a classic Saints move where you pay a lot for a player, sell them cheap then panic buy another B grader for more than you got for the guy you got rid of.

 

[Yawkey way]

I reckon we'd want to replace him first. It looks like a classic Saints move where you pay a lot for a player, sell them cheap then panic buy another B grader for more than you got for the guy you got rid of.

I was concerned about frustration driven cunning plans and that’s exactly what it’s shaping up to be.

 

[BrutThough]

They will have a crack a McKay. There first would have to be in the conversation for Howard. This was my mail as well.

Based off their current picks, it's very unlikely they part with their first rounder for Howard.

More looking at that pick 22, which will then blow out to late 20s after the compo picks and academy picks are taken.

 

[BrutThough]

Why the * are we going full rebuild. Not sure I've got it in me to start again.

It doesn't make a lot of sense. The turnover being discussed is North at rockbottom levels or what West Coast is now being forced to do.