2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[gy027]

Those highlights of Langford.
He did not look slow at all

 

[Diehard Saint]

This

Been quite a while since we’ve had a Harvey.

 

[Browny2Carlisle]

Those highlights of Langford.
He did not look slow at all

The 20m sprint test really is a silly way of determining someone is slow because they are .2 of a second slower than an athletic freak

 

[TheJackal]

If we could get Draper/Langford at 7

And turn 8 into 15+16

Which lands us Trainor + Lindsay.

I’d probably shit a golden egg.

Wouldn't be the first time you've acted like a Goose

 

[akaifu]

Those highlights of Langford.
He did not look slow at all

Because he knows when and how to drive his legs which is a unique skill to have. He almost never hack kicks the ball out of stoppage - he always backs his judgement whether it be to take the extra 5 or so metres by foot or to handball to a teammate on the outside. Signs of a high footy IQ and high-level composure

I'm pretty sure Chad Warner was a similar case. His 20m sprint was 3+ secs but he plays way faster because he also knows when and when not to drive his legs out of stoppage to take an extra few metres on foot

Problem with Langford is at what point do you become too slow at AFL level no matter how smart you are. He won't be afforded that sort of space at the level so it'll be interesting to see how he adapts his game

 

[stavro#4]

Wouldn't be the first time you've acted like a Goose

Beats acting like Sheep

 

[stavro#4]

Because he knows when and how to drive his legs which is a unique skill to have. He almost never hack kicks the ball out of stoppage - he always backs his judgement whether it be to take the extra 5 or so metres by foot or to handball to a teammate on the outside. Signs of a high footy IQ and high-level composure

I'm pretty sure Chad Warner was a similar case. His 20m sprint was 3+ secs but he plays way faster because he also knows when and when not to drive his legs out of stoppage to take an extra few metres on foot

Problem with Langford is at what point do you become too slow at AFL level no matter how smart you are. He won't be afforded that sort of space at the level so it'll be interesting to see how he adapts his game

*Cough cough *

 

[akaifu]

*Cough cough *

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Bloody hope so, what a result that'd be

 

[TheJackal]

So turns out my 7yo son is a genius and invented a time machine. Just popped over to November 20 and half way through the first round it's looking like this.

Richmond - Lalor
Brisbane - Ashcroft
Adelaide - Draper
Carlton - O'Sullivan
North - Tauru
Dees - Armstrong
Richmond - Smillie
Essendon - Kako
St Kilda - Langford
Gold Coast - Lombard
St Kilda - Smith
Dees - Reid
Richmond - Travaglia
Richmond - Allan

Couldn't stick around for the whole thing but overall the mood was pretty positive.

 

[stavro#4]

Bloody hope so, what a result that'd be

Don't over think this my friend.

If you know how to find the damn thing under a pack and in space as well.

You’ll be fine.

 

[stavro#4]

So turns out my 7yo son is a genius and invented a time machine. Just popped over to November 20 and half way through the first round it's looking like this.

Richmond - Lalor
Brisbane - Ashcroft
Adelaide - Draper
Carlton - O'Sullivan
North - Tauru
Dees - Armstrong
Richmond - Smillie
Essendon - Kako
St Kilda - Langford
Gold Coast - Lombard
St Kilda - Smith
Dees - Reid
Richmond - Travaglia
Richmond - Allan

Couldn't stick around for the whole thing but overall the mood was pretty positive.

I’m just going to live in the world that has us grabbing:

One of Draper/Langford at 7

And

Allan at 8

Then pray to anything we trade with the Giants for a pick that gets us Trainor

 

[BarkerFan]

This one is perplexing. Surely even 3 future 3rds (which I believe they have) doesn’t get it done. But Adelaide may get lucky that’s all they have and north have no alternatives

Adelaide have 3 future 3rd rouders at a time when 3rd rounders are becoming worth very little. If they give them all to North in the pick swap of 2 for 4, that would give North 4 future 3rds,

North could trade these 4 future 3rds to an academy club or club with a father son prospect... but they wont get a high pick like they would have this year because 3rd rounders are severely devalued next year... even 4 3rd rounders will only get you a 2nd rounder in return, when you consider that the trading club needs to make a profit in points

Still worth it for North... they will still get Tauru at 4, and will get an upgrade from their 3rd rounder to a 2nd rounder for 2025. But wont get them back into this years draft, which they would like to do

Gotta say it is a good and overdue change by the AFL, preventing junk picks being traded for 1st rounders

 

[aidansbonor]

Would u prefer Langford or Smillie, I can't decide

 

[Goofy975]

Would u prefer Langford or Smillie, I can't decide

I was thinking hard about this too. Smillie would have the higher ceiling while Langford is more polished and he's ready to play at an AFL level.

With our current state we'r focused on developing our young squad but win at the same time? So in my mind Langford would make more sense for us

 

[jwint43]

The one everyone seems flat about is Travaglia, he could turn out to be similar to NWM.

Have a read of the below from pages 250 up until we pick NWN, hindsight is wonderful but majority were desperate for Hobbs or Gibcus.

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www.bigfooty.com

I remember being fairly dissapointed in NWM, so my lesson from this is i'm going to form no opinions on any of these players and back the people who are paid very well to form opinions on them. Pointless excercise trying to grade people off grainy 5 min highlight packages which somehow still look like they were filmed in 2011.

 

[stavro#4]

I was thinking hard about this too. Smillie would have the higher ceiling while Langford is more polished and he's ready to play at an AFL level.

With our current state we'r focused on developing our young squad but win at the same time? So in my mind Langford would make more sense for us

Smillie is the ultimate boom or bust player in this draft.

He could easily be the best.

Or he could be a blown pick from very early on.

 

[stavro#4]

Would u prefer Langford or Smillie, I can't decide

Langford is mr consistent.

191cms midfielder who has a massive tank who runs all day and just had a season where he went:

25.9 average disposals
1.3 goals
4.7 tackles
5.1 marks

( Per game average. )

 

[Train12]

I’m just going to live in the world that has us grabbing:

One of Draper/Langford at 7

And

Allan at 8

Then pray to anything we trade with the Giants for a pick that gets us Trainor

This!

 

[Joffaboy]

Langford is mr consistent.

191cms midfielder who has a massive tank who runs all day and just had a season where he went:

25.9 average disposals
1.3 goals
4.7 tackles
5.1 marks

( Per game average. )

A fit Stringer when up forward, a good disposal Dangerfield when a mid.

No scrap that, a Lot like Dangerfield except can kick.

On SM-S908E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[stavro#4]

A fit Stringer when up forward, a good disposal Dangerfield when a mid.

No scrap that, a Lot like Dangerfield except can kick.

On SM-S908E using BigFooty.com mobile app

Doesn’t have that breakaway speed of danger.

More Bont in my eyes.

 

[From 45]

Because he knows when and how to drive his legs which is a unique skill to have. He almost never hack kicks the ball out of stoppage - he always backs his judgement whether it be to take the extra 5 or so metres by foot or to handball to a teammate on the outside. Signs of a high footy IQ and high-level composure

I'm pretty sure Chad Warner was a similar case. His 20m sprint was 3+ secs but he plays way faster because he also knows when and when not to drive his legs out of stoppage to take an extra few metres on foot

Problem with Langford is at what point do you become too slow at AFL level no matter how smart you are. He won't be afforded that sort of space at the level so it'll be interesting to see how he adapts his game

When you have a high footy IQ like he has it won’t be a problem at AFL level. There are plenty of similar players past and present that have succeeded.

Combine testing is only for recruiters to split players after the best available players( players that are just natural footballers) have been drafted.

 

[Significant]

When you have a high footy IQ like he has it won’t be a problem at AFL level. There are plenty of similar players past and present that have succeeded.

Combine testing is only for recruiters to split players after the best available players( players that are just natural footballers) have been drafted.

Sorry, are you talking about Mr. Langford or Mr. Reid here?

 

[maanco]

You need to consider the picks between 27 and 32 when judging that trade.

Essendon will probably use picks 28 and 31 matching the bid for Kako. So those picks will disappear on draft night.

Brisbane will use pick 27 to match the bid on Ashcroft.

So in effect, picks 27, 28 & 31 will not exist beyond the top 10 and subsequent picks will be moved up after being pushed back by the original bid.

In sliding pick 27 back to pick 32 three of the five picks will disappear in matching bids. So in effect, we have only moved back two places to receive pick 45. A pick we used to trade-in Macrae.

Good business.


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I expect essendon will try to trade out 28 and 31 for future picks.

Would we consider trading a future second and 47 for those.

32, 47, F2 (~32) and F3 (~50) for 28, 31 and 40

 

[OxSaint]

How many midfields have 2 190cm mids lining up at the stoppage at the same time?

Pou and Langford look very similar to me. He looks good as a prospect, but does he fit in a midfield with Pou?

 

[Yawkey way]

The 20m sprint test really is a silly way of determining someone is slow because they are .2 of a second slower than an athletic freak

Also doesn’t measure your ability to read the play or reaction times.