2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[Tommy Wigs]

He is more a midfielder than many are giving him credit for on here. Gets judged because he is too light and can kick. Must be an outside type only then

With a bigger frame he is a definite top 10 in this draft.

What I love about some of the options is the leadership they will bring. Smith, Draper, Langford, Allan is supposed to be that as well. Are there some doubts on Smillie at that level? There definitely seems to be doubts on Armstrong on that front. Was Travaglia club captain?

 

[Joffaboy]

Macrae+Bont

Green+Callaghan

As long as both can run two ways and one has burst (Pou) then it’s fine

Reckon we should select Langford and Smillie if available. A midfield of Macrae, Pou, Smillie and Langford would have to be the tallest midfield of all time .

And if one of the three youngest don't work out we have a built key position. Langford is as much a forward as mid anyway.


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[Tommy Wigs]

Academy & Draft summit:

I had a look at the projected top 25 players in next years (2025) crop and 8 of the 25 are NGA's or FS. Thats a third of the top 25 of the kids in the country tied mostly to the 4 x northern clubs (22% of the competition). Its obvious the AFL are keen to grow the game in NSW & QLD but its got to a point now where the scales are tipped too far their way. Its no different to the salary cap allowance these clubs enjoyed for far too long.

I know our President went to bat in the summit, but the above is evidence the AFL didnt go far enough with their NGA and draft changes.

Its not earth shattering, but I think when the AFL introduced the pick trading periods they would have envisaged it actually being used. As far as I recall there has been possibly a couple of deals of late picks since its inception. Now clubs start talking a long way before the trade and any pick swapping is exclusively done over the trade period or on the draft night/s. Most clubs have negotiated swaps prior to the drafts depending on where their targetted players fall.

Perhaps there is a need for the pick swaps to flow over into the rookie and MSD, was that actually discussed or signed off during the summit?

Don’t say anything because our club “ whinged”. So says every oppo fan. Even though every other team is getting totally screwed. It’s only because little old St Kilda stood up for us all.

So every time you see an oppo fan have their own whinge, give it to them. Knobs

 

[Joffaboy]

I agree we could get someone just as good with 15+16

In this draft at 15 and 16 we could get say a Hotton and a Whitlock and both could be top 5 or not in the top 30 as is the evenness of this draft.

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[Goofy975]

I'm starting to warm up picking Bo Allan at 8. He looks faster than Smillie and just as athletic if not more?

If his kicking was better would he be a better prospect than Smillie?

 

[Enclosed_Animal]

Cue all the comments about SOS and ex-Carlton players in 3, 2, 1 ...

Ex-Blues midfielder joins Saints as delisted free agent

Jack Carroll joins the Saints after being delisted by the Blues

www.afl.com.au

 

[SteeleSaints]

POLL:

Overlooking the benefit of NGA selections, IF we had a pick between 32 & 47 or were to use them on a key defender who would you take or prefer?

A. James Barrat 194cms (intercept marker)
B. Matt Whitlock 198cms (utility)
C. Noah Mraz 198cms (utility)
D. Adrian Cole 194cms (full back stopper)
E. Harry O'Farrell 196cms (full back stopper)
F. Clancy Dennis 195cms (intercept marker)
G.Charlie Nicholls 197cms (utility)

I know its a fruitless exercise as we will take Cole because of our academy access, but if he wasnt who would you take? Its a bit of fun to get us thinking about something other than the top 8.

My pick would be C. Noah Mraz, because of his all round defensive game and versatility. I think if he hadnt of have had the foot injury he would be top 20, even so he tested well at the combine. Perhaps we might look at someone versatile like Mraz or Nicholls at #32 as well given their versatility, as well as taking Cole.

 

[stavro#4]

So 6 list spots available and the Sandy rookie.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Cue all the comments about SOS and ex-Carlton players in 3, 2, 1 ...

Ex-Blues midfielder joins Saints as delisted free agent

Jack Carroll joins the Saints after being delisted by the Blues

www.afl.com.au

Wow I said I rated him when he was delisted, so not unhappy with picking him up. He has more midfield scope than what Carlton gave him credit for and he has some speed and a deadly left foot, something we crave. Its going to make the list spots and how we fill positions even more interesting! How many JACK's will that make at the club?

It will make the idea of taking Elwood Peckett more remote perhaps?

 

[RWB4life]

So 6 list spots available and the Sandy rookie.

7,8,27 + 3 fs/academy
Would mean if we split 8 we attach 27 for some late points maybe.

Means we're also short a list spot for a backup ruckman. Maybe waiting on an injury for an spp pick? A lot of faith in heath?

 

[GTrains Mullet]

Anyone know much about Carrol. His stats are underwhelming?

Thought we’d go for depth ruck/backman with a DFA.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Anyone know much about Carrol. His stats are underwhelming?

Thought we’d go for depth ruck/backman with a DFA.

He was played mostly as a pressure HFF when he got a game at AFL level. Have a look at his VFL stats there has been an upward trend, even so he is an interesting pick up given our list holes, but he is definitely an upgrade on Olli Hotton.

- Jack Carroll

vfl.aflmstats.com

Ill also add his RMC draft write up -

Jack Carroll Draft Profile

central.rookieme.com

 

[Pou Steele]

Cue all the comments about SOS and ex-Carlton players in 3, 2, 1 ...

Ex-Blues midfielder joins Saints as delisted free agent

Jack Carroll joins the Saints after being delisted by the Blues

www.afl.com.au

More importantly, reversing the concerning downward trend of Jacks at the club.

 

[Mighty_sainter]

We cop shit for Aaron Naughton, imagine what we'd cop for Jeremy Cameron mk2

Thing is he’s not Jeremy Cameron. He’s not a star. Been delivered it on a platter all season without having any standout elite traits. He converts set shots well and his hands are o-k. Reminds me of jye amiss in his draft year. Solid without being a star.

 

[Enclosed_Animal]

Wow I said I rated him when he was delisted, so not unhappy with picking him up. He has more midfield scope than what Carlton gave him credit for and he has some speed and a deadly left foot, something we crave. Its going to make the list spots and how we fill positions even more interesting! How many JACK's will that make at the club?

It will make the idea of taking Elwood Peckett more remote perhaps?

Mate I know bugger all about the bloke so not saying you are wrong. But a quick search of the Carlton board and Carroll has one word coming up over and over ...

Slow!

 

[MrFoster]

He was played mostly as a pressure HFF when he got a game at AFL level. Have a look at his VFL stats there has been an upward trend, even so he is an interesting pick up given our list holes, but he is definitely an upgrade on Olli Hotton.

- Jack Carroll

vfl.aflmstats.com

Liked Carrol last year when he played a good game against us.. Big body midfielder/utility, is clean with the ball, has composure and a good left foot on him.. Definitely deserve another opportunity.

 

[King_Steele]

Don’t mind the Caroll pick up at all!

 

[Darkhour]

Wow I said I rated him when he was delisted, so not unhappy with picking him up. He has more midfield scope than what Carlton gave him credit for and he has some speed and a deadly left foot, something we crave. Its going to make the list spots and how we fill positions even more interesting! How many JACK's will that make at the club?

It will make the idea of taking Elwood Peckett more remote perhaps?

He doesn't look too bad tbh.. worth a shot if he can build on his speed

 

[Broski]

Saints welcome Jack Carroll

Jack Carroll will continue his AFL career at St Kilda.

www.saints.com.au

 

[SteeleSaints]

Mate I know bugger all about the bloke so not saying you are wrong. But a quick search of the Carlton board and Carroll has one word coming up over and over ...

Slow!

OUCH I just had a look and there is a good chance I mixed him and Matt Carroll up sorry. I didnt realise there were two Carrolls at Cartlon, I guess we will have to wait and see.....

 

[dudeintheswamp]

Seems an odd choice to me.

 

[Broski]

Mate I know bugger all about the bloke so not saying you are wrong. But a quick search of the Carlton board and Carroll has one word coming up over and over ...

Slow!

I don't agree with 'slow'.

Personally, I think he has a good burst for a 188cm mid.

Would not be surprised if he impresses over the preseason.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Strange to burn a list spot now... could have waited & picked him up post draft if we don't like anyone who's available late in the piece.

Not to mention that we have more pressing needs for mature back ups than a delisted midfielder.

 

[Mighty_sainter]

He is another Sandringham Dragons product obvious we are keen to grow our affiliation with those kids. I dont know where the club see him playing though? Definitely doing a lot better out of the Dragons than the Zebras.

He’s from WA

 

[Joffaboy]

Liked Carrol last year when he played a good game against us.. Big body midfielder/utility, is clean with the ball, has composure and a good left foot on him.. Definitely deserve another opportunity.

So no Langford in the draft by the looks. Big bodied left footed mid has been filled.

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