Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[CaptainWorpedo]

Ward and Maginness I would keep, , while they are not currently best 22, they are best 27, which makes them both valuable depth players.

Agree! Both Ward and Maginness are not the end product yet and have more room to improve their game.

 

[TylerDurden]

Saying line ball between us and Cats for Baz.
Battle leaning towards us.

IOW, they don't know.

 

[Fastback]

Sam a few times this year has said he doesn’t want to rely on an individual midfielder to get it 30 times a week ……. would prefer a number of mids that contribute in the low 20’s each week which is essentially what has been happening over the last few months.

Re Smith he seems to be leaving the Dogs due to a lack of midfield opportunity. Not sure if this is aligned to Sam’s team ethos and unless Smith is willing to play a role for what’s best for the team

Cough cough Ginnivan cough..

 

[Fastback]

Agree! Both Ward and Maginness are not the end product yet and have more room to improve their game.

I would almost look at trading Ward whilst there is currency - just a gut feel.

 

[mustang]

I like Smith a lot, but McDonald is going to be a bloody ripper.

I wonder if they release him into the midfield or he becomes our Breust replacement going into the midfield every now and then, but not full time.

 

[hawkheart]

Thanks hawkheart any other revelations on the night. I didn't get there

Bigmaxi, TBH it was a slightly disappointing night. Listed as running 6.30 - 8.30, only went for an hour from 7-8. (Temper Trap rehearsing on the ground for NRL was the supposed reason). Nat Edwards hosted.

Andy Gowers was first up and updated us on Dingley with some impressive drone vision of the work so far (available on the Hawks app apparently) and announced we're over 80k membership.

Rob McCartney and Sam spoke next. A slide went up of all he negative media articles from last year / earlier this year (tanking etc.) then was contrasted with all the feel-good media articles and headlines of late. Essentially Rob was saying that we have a plan and we know where we're going and anything outside the club (positive or negative) is just noise. I always find Rob a hugely impressive speaker.
Sam mentioned Wardy (see earlier post) with no prompting - seems top of mind - and said that this year we're beyond the pure development stage - but still developing nevertheless. Focus is more on being in winning positions / consistency.

A slide went up of the debutants for this year. Sam talked up Mass as a quality person and the surprise of Calsher coming on so quickly.

Players interviewed very briefly on stage were Sic, Newk, Worps and Gunner. Laughs from the attendees when someone asked about how we'd fit Bailey Smith into the midfield. I think Newk chuckled and said something along the lines of "we'll find a way".
Worps mentioned that all players have a long list of things they've been working on but as far as him personally, he mentioned his kicking in particular. Gunners joked that he enjoyed his 'year holiday'. Sic mentioned the boys would have been happy to keep going without the bye.

AFLW women were next up - thought new coach Dan Webster spoke very well.

Canapes were not up to standard of previous years.

 

[Ka Norkers]

Ward may be Bulldogs bound. He's in a similar position to Josh Kennedy all those years ago, good player but can't see him cracking into the midfield at Hawthorn any time soon.

 

[mustang]

Yep, can't believe the stuff I'm reading here.

Baz is a genuine star and the missing piece to our midfield mix.

At the moment we are one midfielder short I feel having Smith helps this.

Day
Newcombe
Mackenzie
Smith

And I feel MacDonald who will be our new Burgoyne.

 

[nelk boys]

At the moment we are one midfielder short I feel having Smith helps this.

Day
Newcombe
Mackenzie
Smith

And I feel MacDonald who will be our new Burgoyne.

Where is Nash or Worpel?

 

[mustang]

I think Smith was projecting to be on a similar level to a lot of those players, yes his kicking isn't great but you could say the same about a lot of stars over the years. He looked like he could be come that damaging inside/out line breaking mid that could hit the scoreboard. He stagnated at the Dogs and has since been injured. So i think it somewhat depends if you give him any slack in the act i think the Dogs have slightly misused him and i genuinely believe Bevo is a hack of a coach.

Whether Smith ends up hitting top 10 i don't know but i do think he could have seasons where he plays at that level at a minimum.

His kicking could improve with us look at Worpel’s and Nash’s kicking.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Ward may be Bulldogs bound. He's in a similar position to Josh Kennedy all those years ago, good player but can't see him cracking into the midfield at Hawthorn any time soon.

No negativity

But Ward aint going anywhere

 

[earthworms]

We're reportedly offering Battle 6 years via Cal Twomey

 

[Sturty]

If we add Bazzalenka and Battle we may not lose at all in 2025

 

[RoughysMullet]

Bailey and Jagga Smith. That's a nice haul. Go to it MM.

Not out of the realm of possibly if we build a trade around our future 1st for Baz - Jagga slides a little and we don’t play finals and have a pick in the top 10

 

[TylerDurden]

Jagga will be top 5. Even top 3.

There's no way the Dogs take a F1 for Baz.
It will be this year's 1st, or he's off to the Cats.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

It will be this year's 1st, or he's off to the PSD.

EFA.

 

[DrkNyt]

Saying line ball between us and Cats for Baz.
Battle leaning towards us.

IOW, they don't know.

Hey TD, after seeing that, are you still 100% sure he's staying a Sainter? Hope not lol

 

[Fastback]

No negativity

But Ward aint going anywhere

re Ward, is a talented player but doesn't quite have the height or speed to hurt teams at AFL level, the offset to this is amazing hands/disposal/evasive skills which the coach had, so hopefully this can develop but I'm just not sure it's there.

 

[Hodgey 15]

No negativity

But Ward aint going anywhere

Poster is only throwing out wild guesses anyway.

 

[fairdinks]

Barrass would be a bold move. He’s 29 (but 9 months younger than Sicily) so would put a pretty defined say 3 or so year window on winning a flag (before our backline starts to look old). But he’s a gun and that centrepiece key defender our backline is missing. I imagine he’s not going to come cheap to prise him out of WCE.

I'm afraid it's a no from me. Purely on age.

 

[TylerDurden]

Hey TD, after seeing that, are you still 100% sure he's staying a Sainter? Hope not lol

As of last night, my mail is that he's staying.
Hope I'm wrong.

 

[butlers hawks]

 

[TylerDurden]

Signs of desperation. Staying.

 

[bindas12]

Didn't Mitch have personal chats with Mckay and Henry ? Hopefully his reputation improving as a coach helps us this time around.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

re Ward, is a talented player but doesn't quite have the height or speed to hurt teams at AFL level, the offset to this is amazing hands/disposal/evasive skills which the coach had, so hopefully this can develop but I'm just not sure it's there.

Ward is 20 years old.

This idea that we just have to make some sort of move with him because he’s not currently in the senior side is ridiculous.