Preview 2024 Rd 20 Carlton vs Port Adelaide Friday 26th July 7:40PM AEST @ Marvel Stadium

[Aphrodite]

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AFL team news: Three big additions

Mitch McGovern is among a trio of inclusions for Friday night football.

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[Bamboo Harvester]

Is he? Why

For the reasons I mentioned in my post.

If we bring Cunners and Martin into the 22, we'll potentially have those two plus Elijah rotating through half forward.

Cotters moves upfield to a more traditional wing role - which he's played the majority of his career. He currently plays a 'high half forward' role, so there's four fifth's of **** all difference anyway....

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

For the reasons I mentioned in my post.

If we bring Cunners and Martin into the 22, we'll potentially have those two plus Elijah rotating through half forward.

Cotters moves upfield to a more traditional wing role - which he's played the majority of his career. He currently plays a 'high half forward' role, so there's four fifth's of **** all difference anyway....

His return to form last week actually involved him spending a lot of time on the wing anyway. He'll be fine there but probably require the half backs/ half forwards on that side to rotate through a touch.

 

[Soapy V]

For the reasons I mentioned in my post.

If we bring Cunners and Martin into the 22, we'll potentially have those two plus Elijah rotating through half forward.

Cotters moves upfield to a more traditional wing role - which he's played the majority of his career. He currently plays a 'high half forward' role, so there's four fifth's of **** all difference anyway....

He is NO good as a wingman and has NOT played the majority of his career there. Big difference between defensive HF and wing. Never worked and gets lost

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

Can't see Lij being the Sub.

Fair enough Aph, I agree with you that it most likely will not happen.

Has been down on output for about three weeks though, imo.

 

[blueboots]

No Marshall confirmed by Hinkley is a good result with our current struggles defending opposition tall forwards

 

[Crippa#9]

He is NO good as a wingman and has NOT played the majority of his career there. Big difference between defensive HF and wing. Never worked and gets lost

You're obviously strong on Cottrell not playing the wing role - fair enough but who do you propose we could plug in that position and do a job whilst Acres is out?

 

[Kernafides]

No body language expert but when voss was asked about binns his response didn't strike me as someone coming in

 

[Crippa#9]

No Marshall confirmed by Hinkley is a good result with our current struggles defending opposition tall forwards

That's helpful. I wonder if now we go Kemp over Marchbank. I'd prefer we do.

 

[Arr0w]

For the reasons I mentioned in my post.

If we bring Cunners and Martin into the 22, we'll potentially have those two plus Elijah rotating through half forward.

Cotters moves upfield to a more traditional wing role - which he's played the majority of his career. He currently plays a 'high half forward' role, so there's four fifth's of **** all difference anyway....

Spot on, Cottrell has played many a game on a wing and has shown he can play the defensive or attacking wing role

 

[Soapy V]

You're obviously strong on Cottrell not playing the wing role - fair enough but who do you propose we could plug in that position and do a job whilst Acres is out?

Kemp Binns Hollands Hollands Cincotta Walsh Cerra and/or Carroll

Play Cottrell defensive HF on Houston

My comments are based on history. Nothing more, nothing less. If someones wants to show me a good game he played on the wing I am happy to see it

 

[gbatman]

Are McGovern & Boyd available?

Unsure, I would suspect they would be. Two ins who would make a strong impact for us IMO.

 

[Sector 7G]

He is NO good as a wingman and has NOT played the majority of his career there. Big difference between defensive HF and wing. Never worked and gets lost

When was the last time he played wing?

Just because you believe it hasn't worked in the past is not to say it can't work in the future.

While it is a different role it is not that different. He has the attributes to play on the wing

 

[Monty1978]

McGovern and kemp or Marchbank are the vital ones … allows cerra and kennedy to go up field
Boyd is replaceable
Binns for acres
Pitto for tdk
still have cunners and Martin so our depth is decent

 

[carlton_99]

No Marshall confirmed by Hinkley is a good result with our current struggles defending opposition tall forwards

Marshall would have likely come in for Lord so was gonna be 3 talls either way. But Marshall more experienced than Lord ofc

 

[Sector 7G]

That's helpful. I wonder if now we go Kemp over Marchbank. I'd prefer we do.

Marchbank hasn't played any 2s games this year as good as Kemps on the Weekend

 

[Soapy V]

When was the last time he played wing?

Just because you believe it hasn't worked in the past is not to say it can't work in the future.

While it is a different role it is not that different. He has the attributes to play on the wing

Holland was dropped/rested earlier in season and Cottrell played wing and struggled. Abandoned by coaches very quickly

I agree he does have the attributes but has NEVER stood up in that role

 

[Arr0w]

Weitering, Kemp or Marchbank, Gov

Dixon, Lord, Georgiades

You could play both Kemp and Marchbank and Gov could play on a small

 

[Sector 7G]

Holland was dropped/rested earlier in season and Cottrell played wing and struggled. Abandoned by coaches very quickly

I agree he does have the attributes but has NEVER stood up in that role

Hollands has struggled in plenty of games. Lucky we haven't given up on him. Pies game wasn't a good performance by plenty of players.

 

[Benaly28]

Really hope the MC gets Marto back in tomorrow - we need him to get some games under his belt ahead of what's sure to be a tough finals campaign.

99.99% he plays.


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[CaptainCharisma]

I'm in the doubtful camp on Martin coming back in from the ITK posters reports he is sore and also coming off a 5 day break in the VFL.
Another week in the 2's and get him back in for the Pies next week.

 

[Soapy V]

Hollands has struggled in plenty of games. Lucky we haven't given up on him. Pies game wasn't a good performance by plenty of players.

Your comparing a young player to a mature player? Also, Hollands positioning is very good. He just needs to get stronger and he already averages more disposals, tackles etc than Cottrell

I would love Cottrell to prove me wrong (as he does have the attributes) but the evidence suggests different

 

[blues4flag]

Holland was dropped/rested earlier in season and Cottrell played wing and struggled. Abandoned by coaches very quickly

I agree he does have the attributes but has NEVER stood up in that role

Pretty sure he played wing in the second half after Acres went down. Small sample size but had 7 disposals in the last and was one of our better players.

 

[gbatman]

I would like to see Kemp played in a smaller role. Think he would slot into Cowan's spot pretty well. We aren't utilising his attacking flair, ability to find the ball and two way run by playing him in a key position all the time. We seem to have forgotten that he has played his best footy as a medium defender.

Weitering to full back, if he is out then Kemp comes in. Marchbank can come in and play CHB if needed. McGovern can play as a third tall or in a smaller role as well.

Depends how well we match up on them but there are a number of combinations that work for us. I don't particularly want to see us playing midfielders in the backline. I've never liked Kennedy or Cerra playing as defenders. I'd rather they play forward or off the bench.

I think our defence has been a bit weak lately. Durdin on one leg last week plus midfielders trying to be defenders wasn't good. Only one notable attacking half back. Our lack of good intercepting defenders and not enough good hard running half backs has also been a weakness. We go back to just Saad as our one dangerous defender, he is going to get a defensive forward and work put into him too often. We become too reliant on just one player and that's really bad for us.

I'd be keen to go with one of the following combinations:

If we think they will be a bit taller I would go with this setup
Newman Weitering McGovern
Boyd Marchbank Saad
Kemp

If they are a bit smaller then this will do

Newman Weitering Kemp
Boyd McGovern Saad
Cincotta

Both McGovern and Kemp can play half back and run both ways, they can also play on smaller opposition.

I'm thinking that we may go with the first option. Weitering, Marchbank, McGovern V Dixon, Georgiadis, Lord. Kemp and McGovern to share that third tall role and a more running role. I think the extra height will be good to have.

If we can bring some midfield pressure we will intercept pretty well with that setup.

 

[Soapy V]

Pretty sure he played wing in the second half after Acres went down. Small sample size but had 7 disposals in the last and was one of our better players.

About sums him up. Much like Cuningham. You get a quarter or so that teases and get you excited but the evidence over full games suggest otherwise

As I have said, I am happy for someone to show me any games he has done well as a wingman

 

[Arr0w]

Pretty sure he played wing in the second half after Acres went down. Small sample size but had 7 disposals in the last and was one of our better players.

Had 19 disposals, 16 pressure acts, Ollie had 17 and 9

You just have to look at Cottrells heat map, plenty of time between the arcs