Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

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Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

  Age

  34

  Ht

  183cm

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  87kg

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  Mid

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  23.7

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  11.7

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  11.9

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  6.6

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  CL

  5.7

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  M

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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  Clayton Oliver

  Age

  27

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  189cm

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  88kg

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  27.8

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  CL

  3.8

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  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  Darcy Fogarty

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  25

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  100kg

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  8.5

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  1.2

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  6.3

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  2.3

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  3.0

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  2.3

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  1.0

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  D

  8.0

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  K

  5.4

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  2.6

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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[Mutineer]

Was an arseh*le at Brisbane because at the time the club was a basket case and full of losers. Since he left they’ve had a full clean out and look at them now.

Maybe Leppitsch was right?

Nah, he's a shit bloke.

 

[Shifty Crow]

Oliver is being shopped around by Melbourne CEO

We had a crack at him last year and offered two first round picks.

It’s been reported that Melbourne would be willing to accept a F1 pick, this sparked Geelong’s interest.

Adelaide- has not showed any interest in Oliver just yet.

Could this mean that we believe that we are confident in securing Peatling?




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[cmndstab]

I get Gibbs flashbacks when hearing about Oliver. I don't want to see us throw huge draft capital to get a bloke who is likely past his best and not far from the end.

 

[1990crow]

I get Gibbs flashbacks when hearing about Oliver. I don't want to see us throw huge draft capital to get a bloke who is likely past his best and not far from the end.

Maybe. But if Geelong is interested maybe we should be.

 

[pjcrows]

Blows my mind that we are actually creating a coaching director appointment for a coaching team that includes a 5 year senior coach, long term experienced senior assistant and another experienced coach.

Surely this is an acknowledgment that the coaching team we have isn’t good enough? How about replace them?

Whats this guy going to do? Teach them how to coach?

Spot on.

 

[AFC979810]

Oliver is being shopped around by Melbourne CEO

We had a crack at him last year and offered two first round picks.

It’s been reported that Melbourne would be willing to accept a F1 pick, this sparked Geelong’s interest.

Adelaide- has not showed any interest in Oliver just yet.

Could this mean that we believe that we are confident in securing Peatling?




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Future first for Oliver? Sign me up. Land Cumming as a Free Agent, Keep pick 4, use whatever picks we have left to secure Peatling and ANB. Laugh all the way to the bank.

 

[skam85]

Sexy?

Not the 1st word which would come to mind the time we met at the airport lol...

George catfishing us all was not on my bingo card

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Going after Oliver would be a diabolical error

 

[Shifty Crow]

Future first for Oliver? Sign me up. Land Cumming as a Free Agent, Keep pick 4, use whatever picks we have left to secure Peatling and ANB. Laugh all the way to the bank.

Buyer Beware on Oliver

He comes with risk and baggage


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[CharlieCrow]

Oliver is being shopped around by Melbourne CEO

We had a crack at him last year and offered two first round picks.

It’s been reported that Melbourne would be willing to accept a F1 pick, this sparked Geelong’s interest.

Adelaide- has not showed any interest in Oliver just yet.

Could this mean that we believe that we are confident in securing Peatling?




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I don't want Oliver. He smacks of Carey and Gibbs to me.
Happy to pursue Peatling but my first
preference is always to have two good draft picks for transformational midfielders though.
Cumming and ANB will improve our list but not transform it. Peatling fits into that category for mine.

 

[jackster83]

The game against Hawthorn at home later in the year is another pretty good example for those who don't believe we changed our gameplan.

Now at this stage of the season we had been back to playing closer to our 2023 style. For some unknown reason (probably drugs) we decided to go with four talls up forward.

After the second term where Hawthorn were running it easily out of our forward half, we decided to bring back the early season go slow gameplan after halftime.

Watch the first 10 mins of that second half and tell me the slow ball movement wasn't an instruction.

 

[Danger_zone]

first time using the mute button. Its so nice to not a read certain posters.

Highly recommended !

 

[cmndstab]

Maybe. But if Geelong is interested maybe we should be.

He could be the difference between a flag in the next year or two with Geelong. Not likely to be for us.

It's why I was actually happy that we targeted Gibbs when we did. I figured he might be what we needed to go one step further than 2017. But as soon as it became clear we were falling away, that trade became a disaster in hindsight.

 

[Cap]

He could be the difference between a flag in the next year or two with Geelong. Not likely to be for us.

It's why I was actually happy that we targeted Gibbs when we did. I figured he might be what we needed to go one step further than 2017. But as soon as it became clear we were falling away, that trade became a disaster in hindsight.

we should never have failed the first time.

That was the biggest problem.

 

[WheresGroomgone]

It’s always been, if you want a coaching job, get into the media & raise your profile

Buckley has always talked a good game

Really?

Who of the current AFL coaches were in media?

 

[Shifty Crow]

I don't want Oliver. He smacks of Carey and Gibbs to me.
Happy to pursue Peatling but my first
preference is always to have two good draft picks for transformational midfielders though.
Cumming and ANB will improve our list but not transform it. Peatling fits into that category for mine.

Probably with our club is that you need to capitalise on your first round selections

Gullucci, Jones, Ned and Milera suggest we have got this wrong in several occasions, and missed Butters in the process.

Then there is McAsey as well

This alone has set back our rebuild

Peatling is on the rise as a mid - he just needs midfield minutes




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[Jarman3]

we should never have failed the first time.

That was the biggest problem.

Walking away from an overpriced trade wasn't a mistake. The mistake was caving and going back the second time.

Although you have to shake your head in bewilderment when you look at the 2 first rounders Carlton were demanding back then for Gibbs due to his contracted status, then look at what they're now reportedly offering for the also contracted (and back to back All Australian) Dan Houston.

 

[jenny61_99]

Being a game analyst Is doesn’t always transfer into being a premiership senior coach.

The simple truth is are Bucks did underperform with his list and divided his dressing room.

McRae comes in with minimal changes to the list and the core 22 and takes them from outside the 8 to premiership, this does reflect poorly on Buckley.

Love listening to him, but not sold on him as a Head coach


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In comparison with Nicks?

 

[Hodgy]

I get Gibbs flashbacks when hearing about Oliver. I don't want to see us throw huge draft capital to get a bloke who is likely past his best and not far from the end.

Having pick 4 in a midfield rich draft, as well as seeing Curtin and Rankine look good in the middle late makes it feel way less important to take a risk like this. Dawson, Soligo, Curtin, Lalor/Draper and Rankine feels like a potential A grade midfield without Oliver.

 

[Jarman3]

Probably with our club is that you need to capitalise on your first round selections

Gullucci, Jones, Ned and Milera suggest we have got this wrong in several occasions, and missed Butters in the process.

Then there is McAsey as well

This alone has set back our rebuild

Peatling is on the rise as a mid - he just needs midfield minutes




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My concern with Peatling is that if he gets those midfield minutes will it be at the expense of Laird and Crouch (is it should be) or, more likely, at the expense of Dowling / Taylor / Edwards / Curtin / pick 4 this year or whoever else we have also needing midfield minutes?

 

[Geoffa32]

So if we are blaming the players did Reid and Hamish get it wrong?

Hamish yes.

I have said before he is the one individual who has done the most damage to this club and a key reason we are where we are now.

A club can't go 13 years without drafting an elite mid and expect success.

Sloane and B Crouch borderline A Graders.


The first/ second round drafts between 2007 and 2020 have killed us.

Somewhat back on track now.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Please tell us some Rutten stories

Let’s just say there are very good reasons not to post rumours or inside info on this board

 

[WheresGroomgone]

Blows my mind that we are actually creating a coaching director appointment for a coaching team that includes a 5 year senior coach, long term experienced senior assistant and another experienced coach.

Surely this is an acknowledgment that the coaching team we have isn’t good enough? How about replace them?

Whats this guy going to do? Teach them how to coach?

Exactly - again it is a demonstration that we are the nicest guys in the business - we don’t do “the man talks” that Walshy had, we just wait for people to retire, request a transfer etc. We don’t want to upset anyone.

That should be our recruiting line to entice players, coaches, officials “become a Crow you’ll be looked after for life”

 

[jenny61_99]

It's okay, people can believe what they want.

I'm not too fussed that the thought police disagree with me. People here waste a lot of energy getting upset that someone holds a different view.

Personally, I think our game plan changed far less than did the personnel in place to implement it.

I think for the most part our high pressure, turnover focused, quick and deep entry game was being attempted, but the older mids were cautious and taking conservative options and just weren't doing shit well.

The difference between playing well and badly is rarely a change in a plan - sometimes, playing badly is because you're just playing badly.

But hey, what do I know. It's not like Nicks told me personally, I have no idea what his intentions were.

I think he definitely changed the focus from attacking to defence (as he saw this as a distinct issue with our inability to defend a lead or finish out close games). There's no doubt that by focusing on that aspect of our game, our attacking flair went to shite. After 4 losses, they finally realised what they were doing wasn't working.

 

[dogs105]

Let’s just say there are very good reasons not to post rumours or inside info on this board

What are they?