Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

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Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

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  34

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  5.7

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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  Clayton Oliver

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  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  Darcy Fogarty

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  100kg

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  1.2

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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Did we need to change our game plan ? Most definitely

Did we do a good job of improving our defence but maintain our offence ? Definitely not , we improved our defence at expense of our offence


We basically took away some of our strengths with our tweaked game plan , it was right idea but poorly executed and likely poorly coached / poor coaching resources

 

[Slime Roy]

Buyer Beware on Oliver

He comes with risk and baggage


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Even his bags would be a risk!

 

[Jeffcrowe]

This makes it tough

 

[FR0GGY]

So was SYD’s downfall on SAT due to the players unaccountability … or Longmire

Players make coaches, it’s always been the way

Given his grandfinal record over a long period with lots of different players, what do you think?

 

[1990crow]

This makes it tough

Just ad an extra year. What does it really matter if he comes out of contract at age 30 instead of 29.

 

[Mostyn]

I think he definitely changed the focus from attacking to defence (as he saw this as a distinct issue with our inability to defend a lead or finish out close games). There's no doubt that by focusing on that aspect of our game, our attacking flair went to shite. After 4 losses, they finally realised what they were doing wasn't working.

I think he wanted the increased defensive pressure because he wanted to start our offense through opposition turnovers - but that was just my assumption. Yours could be equally true.

Do we think Nicks would ever consciously put less emphasis on defense pressure though? I mean, maybe ...

 

[jenny61_99]

Just a feeling but I think he stays at GWS.

Of course that is the likeliest unless we make an offer too good to refuse.

 

[FR0GGY]

Has it been said how many years we are offering peatling?

 

[George Kramer]

Did we need to change our game plan ? Most definitely

Did we do a good job of improving our defence but maintain our offence ? Definitely not , we improved our defence at expense of our offence


We basically took away some of our strengths with our tweaked game plan , it was right idea but poorly executed and likely poorly coached / poor coaching resources

I did a comparison during the year, for those first four games we negligibly improved our defence, when we reverted to our attacking game plan not only did we vastly improve our scoring but there wasn’t much difference in our defence.

I also question whether we needed to change our game plan, we had the 9th best defence. We had a young defence last year, with natural improvement, more experience and playing more together it was naturally going to get better and we saw that with a number of players this year.

The other aspect of our defensive mindset is pushing Murphy up the ground around the contest, leaving our forward line outnumbered which is crucified with slow ball movement and as we saw with intercept defenders running amok early. Best way to defend is get the ball in quickly to give your gun forward line a chance otherwise if it’s outnumbered the ball will rebound easily and quickly and you’ve shot your self in the foot.

 

[Anzacpaul]

Roo mentioned on radio this morning that a coaching director announcement will be made in a couple of days

 

[AFC979810]

Buyer Beware on Oliver

He comes with risk and baggage


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Absolutely. But what can't be denied is how good he is at his best.

This situation is going to be really interesting.

If you get 21/22 Oliver - it doesn't really matter the price. If you get 2023 Oliver - you overpaid no matter what.

This is one where its incredibly tough as an outsider to know what he is worth.

 

[dogs105]

Roo mentioned on radio this morning that a coaching director announcement will be made in a couple of days

Is roo actually redhorse?

 

[1990crow]

Is roo actually redhorse?

Redhorses posts are a little too articulate.

 

[whattagun07]

Gut feel is it'll be announced Peatling will be staying at their BnF.
Hope I'm wrong.

 

[jackster83]

Did we need to change our game plan ? Most definitely

Did we do a good job of improving our defence but maintain our offence ? Definitely not , we improved our defence at expense of our offence


We basically took away some of our strengths with our tweaked game plan , it was right idea but poorly executed and likely poorly coached / poor coaching resources

Most of our issues come down to the midfield.

We aren't good enough in the clearances, so have to push extra numbers in there, which robs from the forward line.

We lack pace and two way running.

Most of our mids are poor by foot.

Obviously the coaches can see this weakness but until we can get better personnel in there, any changes they make just feel like robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Laird's time should be done.
Crouch's days are numbered.
Berry is not the answer.

 

[Cromulant]

Gut feel is it'll be announced Peatling will be staying at their BnF.
Hope I'm wrong.

Given how sought after he's been, that would be a good announcement to make after a shocking end to their season.

 

[George Kramer]

Spot on.

Nicks “I think we should change our high scoring game plan”
Coaching director “don’t be an idiot”

Ok I’ve changed my mind, I see the need

 

[George Kramer]

Most of our issues come down to the midfield.

We aren't good enough in the clearances, so have to push extra numbers in there, which robs from the forward line.

We lack pace and two way running.

Most of our mids are poor by foot.

Obviously the coaches can see this weakness but until we can get better personnel in there, any changes they make just feel like robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Laird's time should be done.
Crouch's days are numbered.
Berry is not the answer.

Yep, our defence is put under pressure when we lose the clearances like any defence would.

So improve our midfield, don’t slow down how the team moves the ball once they’ve actually won it.

Nicks is a bloody moron.

 

[Crow till I die]

Gut feel is it'll be announced Peatling will be staying at their BnF.
Hope I'm wrong.

Look, it is what it is if he does stay. He has been public about loving it there. The big one for us was Cumming imo and we landed him so Peatling whilst late in the piece as an option and would have been very good does not detract from the win in landing Cumming for what we need across half back.

As long as pick 25 is NOT used for ANB, there is likely to be some very promising prospects there at that pick in the draft.

 

[Cromulant]

Most of our issues come down to the midfield.

We aren't good enough in the clearances, so have to push extra numbers in there, which robs from the forward line.

We lack pace and two way running.

Most of our mids are poor by foot.

Obviously the coaches can see this weakness but until we can get better personnel in there, any changes they make just feel like robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Laird's time should be done.
Crouch's days are numbered.
Berry is not the answer.

I think Berry has a place in the rotation, more so as a negating player. Unlike most of the others he's defensively minded and hard working.

Wouldnt pick him every week mind you.

 

[BrissyCrow]

Of course that is the likeliest unless we make an offer too good to refuse.

And that would depend on how serious we are about getting our midfield issue addressed.

 

[jenny61_99]

Is roo actually redhorse?

Maybe Roo reads big footy too….

 

[Shifty Crow]

Absolutely. But what can't be denied is how good he is at his best.

This situation is going to be really interesting.

If you get 21/22 Oliver - it doesn't really matter the price. If you get 2023 Oliver - you overpaid no matter what.

This is one where its incredibly tough as an outsider to know what he is worth.

It’s been couple years since his best, we said the same about Wayne Carey


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[George Kramer]

And that would depend on how serious we are about getting our midfield issue addressed.

Yep, we are close to getting what looks like a promising target, I’d prefer to give him a longer well paid deal when we can afford rather than re-signing proven mediocre players

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

It does not seem to be a coincidence that the Giants offering an extra year for Peatling is leaked the morning of their B&F day, certainly feels like he will stay now. I guess it just depends if there is a club offering 5 years (which Twomey has hinted at before) and whether that is enough of a difference to get him out.