Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

I've deleted confirmed information

Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

  Age

  34

  Ht

  183cm

  Wt

  87kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  23.7

  5star

  K

  11.7

  4star

  HB

  11.9

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  M

  3.5

  4star

  T

  6.6

  5star

  CL

  5.7

  5star

  D

  15.3

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  K

  7.3

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  HB

  8.0

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  M

  1.3

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  T

  3.3

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  CL

  4.2

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  D

  22.2

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  K

  8.6

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  HB

  13.6

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  M

  3.2

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  T

  6.0

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  CL

  4.6

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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  Clayton Oliver

  Age

  27

  Ht

  189cm

  Wt

  88kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

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  D

  27.8

  5star

  K

  9.5

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  HB

  18.4

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  M

  3.2

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  T

  6.3

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  CL

  6.3

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  D

  25.1

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  K

  11.1

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  HB

  14.0

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  M

  3.6

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  T

  5.6

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  CL

  5.9

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  D

  19.2

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  K

  4.6

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  HB

  14.6

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  M

  2.0

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  T

  4.4

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  CL

  3.8

  5star

  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  Darcy Fogarty

  Age

  25

  Ht

  194cm

  Wt

  100kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

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  Last 5

  D

  8.5

  2star

  K

  5.7

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  2.8

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  M

  3.7

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  T

  1.7

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  G

  1.2

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  D

  6.3

  1star

  K

  4.0

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  HB

  2.3

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  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.3

  3star

  G

  1.0

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  D

  8.0

  2star

  K

  5.4

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  HB

  2.6

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  M

  3.4

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  T

  2.6

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  G

  1.0

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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[Scorpus]

At least list managers are based in Melbourne , makes it easier to fill and it’s also a desired role

Ah yeah that's right, based in Melbourne makes it a lot easier

 

[Jeffcrowe]

IMO you need experienced players to keep competitiveness within the group and protect the high end youth from years of floggings, and the damage that causes to their psyche. Otherwise you get a GC Suns situation, where the club has no idea how to win.

Also, the good coaching/development is an assumption based on their earned goodwill from the Hardwick/Gale era. However neither has been proven yet for the Yze/Richardson era. They would want to hope they nail this draft, as the crop below the experienced players hasn't showed all that much thus far.

You also need it for wear and tear on bodies

Eg Soligo 2 years ago playing centre square full time would likely bang up his body for good

 

[crow2crow]

Just on Reid. Could this collingwood story be a rouse because we are going to appoint reid in that role, sack kelly, and get a godfather part time to mentor reid?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Ah yeah that's right, based in Melbourne makes it a lot easier

Think of it like a ruck or wicketkeeper , when a list manager role opens up all the best candidates are going to want to fill it

Picking the right one is the hard bit

Still reckon Reid might stay on and see it thru

 

[Mutineer]

Just on Reid. Could this collingwood story be a rouse because we are going to appoint reid in that role, sack kelly, and get a godfather part time to mentor reid?

No

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Just on Reid. Could this collingwood story be a rouse because we are going to appoint reid in that role, sack kelly, and get a godfather part time to mentor reid?

Think we are better off with Reid in list management

 

[crow2crow]

No

yeh i forgot reid was melbourne based

 

[Mutineer]

Think we are better off with Reid in list management

Just needs to get his head around the idea of having a development ruck on the list for the future.

 

[Hodgy]

Didnt we also rate Redman and Pettys ceilings?

It may be a development issue at Essendon but I dont rate ours any better

You don’t think Hinge, Keays, Dawson and Rankine have improve since coming here?

 

[dogs105]

Is this where we say that Collingwood can't get anyone already doing the job somewhere else, so promoting someone is a failure?

 

[Drewie11]

And visa-versa ?

No not really smart arse

 

[AFC3000]

My biggest problem with losing Reid is that we've probably been caught on the back foot, there will be limited options, and we'll settle for the best of what we can find, maybe from the SANFL or an internal hire.

Then, instead of spending the next 12-24 months scouring the country for the best list manager we can find we just settle for what we've got and that's it for a decade.

 

[GreyCrow]

You don’t think Hinge, Keays, Dawson and Rankine have improve since coming here?

I didnt say that

 

[WeeBlake]

My biggest problem with losing Reid is that we've probably been caught on the back foot, there will be limited options, and we'll settle for the best of what we can find or an internal hire.

Then, instead of spending the next 12-24 months scouring the country for the best list manager we can find we just settle for what we've got and that's it for a decade.

The immediate problem is it would probably mean Kelly doing list management

 

[jackster83]

Collingwood from memory is a club not afraid to go over the soft cap to get their desired person.

Whereas not going over the soft cap is our core objective.

 

[Mutineer]

Whereas not going over the soft cap is our core objective.

Not sure that's the case anymore with Silvers in charge given we chased Graham Wright.

 

[Bay62]

Just needs to get his head around the idea of having a development ruck on the list for the future.

Hallelujah brother

 

[119others]

Any linkage to Rendells infamous comments? ie did this meeting impact his thinking

I had it on podcast (or similar) going back a long time ago - 15 years go - and am 100% sure he said at least the 'tanking' part of things but no records now unfortunately...except my memory which is pretty solid for this sort of thing. Re Horks putting him up to it thats a bit more blurry but did hear that somehere

I think we were always taking Danger if available anyway. More than Rioli would have been our next choice if Danger gone

 

[Bay62]

Random comment: in the Virgin lounge with the Melbourne AFLW team. Let me know if there’s someone I should talk to about making a move

 

[1990crow]

Random comment: in the Virgin lounge with the Melbourne AFLW team. Let me know if there’s some I should talk to about making a move

In English?

 

[WetCrow1991]

The immediate problem is it would probably mean Kelly doing list management

From bar management to list management.

 

[FR0GGY]

They were talking about players not upgrading their contracts when changing clubs and taking their current contracts with them. Of course straight to ANB only having 2 years and now he gets 4 at Adelaide. The crows live rent free in that head of his. He knows we got a steal with ANB

And he said as much yesterday.
He lives in most people’s heres head including yours by the looks.

 

[Bay62]

In English?

Huh? I’m in the Virgin lounge with the Melbourne women’s team. They beat us. Should we look to recruit any of their players.

Just a joke

 

[dogs105]

In English?

Probably. Seems most likely that the Melbourne AFLW players would speak English.

 

[D Style]

Random comment: in the Virgin lounge with the Melbourne AFLW team. Let me know if there’s someone I should talk to about making a move

Nope. Our girls just need to learn to kick straight.