Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

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Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

 

[Mostyn]

We could have on traded that Curtin pick back to eagles for their F1 (which is pick 3 this year)... Curtin vs pick 3 this year will be a big turning point.

The word from the West is that it was never as simple as Curtin for F1 - there was more in it

 

[Eagleboy2011]

That’s the way it’s looking it was also stated on trade radio we are only using one pick into this years draft does that mean Welsh rookied not sure


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Easy job for Hamish only having 1 pick in the draft then. No one can hardly complain then if he goes wrong on one pick.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

So we are only taking one pick into this years draft after trading 46 for melbournes future 3rd ??


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It would appear the club is confident Welsh is either a very late pick this year or a rookie selection. The deal for Peatling is probably just our F2 and swap of F3s now.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

So GWS must want a future second and third

Banking points for academy players next year

 

[Drewie11]

Surely this unlocks the trade to happen today

 

[Shifty Crow]

It would appear the club is confident Welsh is either a very late pick this year or a rookie selection. The deal for Peatling is probably just our F2 and swap of F3s now.

Interesting that he has dropped so far in the draft pecking order in 12 months


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[Firewalker]

If we're only using one pick them we have to upgrade a minimum of two rookies

Hahaha imagine if we end up seeing James Borlase finding his way on to an AFL main list, what a time to be alive.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Thats a lot of draft capital that Melbourne is giving up. Desperate for pick 9.
I wonder what Essendon wants with those late picks. Points?

 

[Crow till I die]

Thats a lot of draft capital that Melbourne is giving up. Desperate for pick 9.
I wonder what Essendon wants with those late picks. Points?

They have an NGA Kako who may be bid on around their pick 9 so they are trading out to ensure its not eaten up in a bid AND they get a nice F1 out of it too...

 

[jackster83]

They have an NGA Kako who may be bid on around their pick 9 so they are trading out to ensure its not eaten up in a bid AND they get a nice F1 out of it too...

Yeah, will be funny if Melbourne continue their slide, their coach gets sacked and they miss out on a top five pick next year.

 

[Coopers]

Hang on, so we've traded a current pick for a lower future pick?

Why?

You can almost always trade a pick for a higher future pick, because it costs to bring a pick forward a year.

So we just throw away some value there?

 

[morris086]

Taking a solitary pick into what's looking like a strong draft depth wise is perplexing. Three good players in but handicapping ourselves with several contracted players whose ceiling is 'decent' level sanfl player is not ideal for a team that finished 15th.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

They have an NGA Kako who may be bid on around their pick 9 so they are trading out to ensure its not eaten up in a bid AND they get a nice F1 out of it too...

That F1 might be big. I suspect Melbourne will drop next year. Great deal by Essendon.

 

[Drewie11]

Taking a solitary pick into what's looking like a strong draft depth wise is perplexing. Three good players in but handicapping ourselves with several contracted players whose ceiling is 'decent' level sanfl player is not ideal for a team that finished 15th.

I don’t think it’s as easy as just cancelling player’s contracts. We would need to pay them out. We are bringing in 3 really good players plus getting pick 4 and Welsh. This has been a really really good off season so far for us

 

[Eddie Murphy]

Hang on, so we've traded a current pick for a lower future pick?

Why?

You can almost always trade a pick for a higher future pick, because it costs to bring a pick forward a year.

So we just throw away some value there?

Don’t think we’re getting much more value for pick 46. The pick will be going to GWS regardless but they’d value a F3 more than a third rounder in this draft.

 

[LoBu]

Hang on, so we've traded a current pick for a lower future pick?

Why?

You can almost always trade a pick for a higher future pick, because it costs to bring a pick forward a year.

So we just throw away some value there?

So we have traded a current R3 pick for a future R3, which you speculate will be a lower pick in 2025 (fair call).

My understanding is that as we only have our round 4 pick left, if Welsh goes in round 3, it is the future R3 that will pay. So essentially we are going to pay for Welsh with the future r3 pick, so it doesn't matter if it's slight above or below what it currently is, as we lose it either way.

 

[Redline]

Interesting that he has dropped so far in the draft pecking order in 12 months


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12 months ago a few on here called Justin Reid incompetent for not trading our future first as Welsh was going top 5. Not only has Welsh slid but pick 4 is valuable.

Unless it's for a player or a specific purpose, trading future picks is a mugs game.

 

[Shifty Crow]

Taking a solitary pick into what's looking like a strong draft depth wise is perplexing. Three good players in but handicapping ourselves with several contracted players whose ceiling is 'decent' level sanfl player is not ideal for a team that finished 15th.

12 months ago we were not planning on pick 4, that’s a bonus

It seems like the top 10 are a sole elite but like all drafts - there are risks from 2nd round picks onwards - the players we have acquired through trade and FA off sets this risk

After 7 years of poor drafting - there gets a point we need to start acquiring established players

We need to start winning now and becoming relevant again


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[DJ75]

Taking a solitary pick into what's looking like a strong draft depth wise is perplexing. Three good players in but handicapping ourselves with several contracted players whose ceiling is 'decent' level sanfl player is not ideal for a team that finished 15th.

It's poor list management.
We finished 15th, yet the club seems to think we have a top 4 squad with very little fat to cut. 3 very good players coming in, plus pick 4 and maybe another 1-2 players with high level potential would have been a great outcome. There was absolutely no need for us to put ourselves in a position where we couldn't add in that extra talent.

 

[LoBu]

12 months ago we were not planning on pick 4, that’s a bonus

It seems like the top 10 are a sole elite but like all drafts - there are risks from 2nd round picks onwards - the players we have acquired through trade and FA off sets this risk

After 7 years of poor drafting - there gets a point we need to start acquiring established players

We need to start winning now and becoming relevant again


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Are we back on this?

Since Nicks took over, our drafting has been very good, so going back to Pyke era drafting, while it has hurt us, is not a great horse to keep beating.

But yes we have enough youth, getting in trades and free agents is the right approach, as it taking pick 4 to the draft.

 

[Shifty Crow]

It's poor list management.
We finished 15th, yet the club seems to think we have a top 4 squad with very little fat to cut. 3 very good players coming in, plus pick 4 and maybe another 1-2 players with high level potential would have been a great outcome. There was absolutely no need for us to put ourselves in a position where we couldn't add in that extra talent.

It’s poor drafting in the past 6-$ season

This is the time to add to the lost through trades and FA

Bottom line is - you don’t win flags through pure drafting otherwise GC and GWS would have had multiple premierships between them……

We were not planning on pick 4 - 12 months ago, and the FA and trade acquisitions are much needed

What I don’t agree with - Smith’s contract extension. Absolutely no need to have a games trigger for Smith as he has never been a flight risk


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[Stripple]

Taking a solitary pick into what's looking like a strong draft depth wise is perplexing. Three good players in but handicapping ourselves with several contracted players whose ceiling is 'decent' level sanfl player is not ideal for a team that finished 15th.

Think this is my biggest issue with this off-season. Apparently a super draft (or at least deep draft) and were only grabbing one player (plus Welsh).

Could have paid out a couple of players and had a few more cracks at this pool of players. Especially with so many picks on the table due to the bids etc.

Happy with the ins (think ANB an overpay) but just feel like it's a missed opportunity - especially with Tassie eating up the draft soon.

 

[Stripple]

12 months ago a few on here called Justin Reid incompetent for not trading our future first as Welsh was going top 5. Not only has Welsh slid but pick 4 is valuable.

Unless it's for a player or a specific purpose, trading future picks is a mugs game.

Can always trade the following years pick forward again. Then you just take the hit when your at the top of the ladder.

 

[DangerSloane]

Its all well and good to say we needed to get more low picks for this draft, but we simply have a bar-belled type list.

Guys we wouldn't want to let go & guys that nobody would want.