Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

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Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[Stripple]

With what picks?

We currently have picks 4, 64 & 82. Delisting an additional player gives us pick #102. Delisting a 2nd player gets us pick #120 - assuming we still have sufficient room in the 2024 salary cap to pay them out (unlikely).

Quite frankly, I'd rather have them on the list in 2025 than a player picked in the 4th or 5th round.

Future picks into this draft is an option. We're not doing it, bit doesn't mean we shouldn't have cut deeper and manufactured a decent 2nd pick.

Or hell even a rookie pick on a developing ruck - we know what we're getting from strauny, burgess, and smith and a few others. There not going to have a material impact on 2025 in my view - and considering how well we have gone with rookies before we might get a player for the future.

 

[jackster83]

Rookie selections have paid off for us before.

One of which just tied for our B&F.

 

[clinto69]

So pick 46 out and a future 3rd in. I'm assuming we are trading a future 2nd and Melbournes future 3rd for Peatling and maybe GWS this years 3rd or 4th which we will use as part of the Welsh bid? Does that sound about right?

 

[Cap]

And 2 of them are in the best 18 (Peatling might be end of next year) so we've replaced the 3-4 players we've carried all year in games provided Nicks doesn't pick them again, McHenry and Smith are definitely gone so only Murphy and Jones (on form this year due to Lisfranc injury but he might bounce back) and then there's Laird and ROB who are the most difficult......

Absolutely, we haven't fixed all of our issues, but if someone told me we would come out the other side with our best 22 improved, I'm taking that every day of the week.

Hopefully the Rookie draft gets us a ruck mind you, assuming we have space.

 

[Stripple]

Absolutely, we haven't fixed all of our issues, but if someone told me we would come out the other side with our best 22 improved, I'm taking that every day of the week.

Hopefully the Rookie draft gets us a ruck mind you, assuming we have space.

We currently don't.

 

[cmndstab]

We currently don't.

Yep, it's a pretty simple equation at the moment. Assuming the trade for Peatling goes through (it will), and we don't delist anyone early (we won't) then our draft haul will be limited to only pick 4 and Welsh. Everything else will just be moving existing players from one list to the other.

 

[Mutineer]

Geezus Twomey and Beveridge and their Oasis shit is hard listening on Trade Radio.

 

[DJ75]

I mean I agree, but we don't have more picks and even getting rid of 'dead wood' doesn't get us any more useful picks.

We don't...now.
This is about list management. Planning ahead etc... Nothing we can do now, but maybe we could have if we had planned earlier.

 

[AFC979810]

And 2 of them are in the best 18 (Peatling might be end of next year)

You reckon the midfielder that got more midfield time in a top 4 side than Coniglio, Kelly and Callaghan over the last 9 rounds (including 2 finals) might break his way into a Crows lineup that finished 15th with the midfield being our weakest link?

 

[ABAB]

You reckon the midfielder that got more midfield time in a top 4 side than Coniglio, Kelly and Callaghan over the last 9 rounds (including 2 finals) might break his way into a Crows lineup that finished 15th with the midfield being our weakest link?

Which is why he is still in the best 22 even with a small sample size.

 

[cmndstab]

We don't...now.
This is about list management. Planning ahead etc... Nothing we can do now, but maybe we could have if we had planned earlier.

We probably weren't expecting to attract three players in the trade period.

 

[DJ75]

We probably weren't expecting to attract three players in the trade period.

True. I doubt in our wildest dreams we thought we would land all 3. It is a great result.
Still, list management is about not stuffing your list with guys that aren't up to it, to the point that you can't add additional players.
We could have not given Schoenberg the extra year, left him until after the trade period and then re-signed him if we needed to. No-one else was going to snap him up.

 

[Vader]

True. I doubt in our wildest dreams we thought we would land all 3. It is a great result.
Still, list management is about not stuffing your list with guys that aren't up to it, to the point that you can't add additional players.
We could have not given Schoenberg the extra year, left him until after the trade period and then re-signed him if we needed to. No-one else was going to snap him up.

Schoenberg, or Berry? I don't think we gave Schoenberg a contract extension this year.

 

[WearyCrow]

Could we grab a ruck mid-season next year if anything happens to o'brien early in the year? Assuming the season is otherwise going well.

 

[DJ75]

Schoenberg, or Berry? I don't think we gave Schoenberg a contract extension this year.

No the last one. We gave Schoenberg a two year deal the year before - for no reason. Could have given him one year, he was hardly in demand.

 

[jackster83]

Seems like the GC are holding everything else up in this trade period.

Luko
Rioli
Noble
Pick 13

It's the one time of year that they are relevant.

 

[Mutineer]

Could we grab a ruck mid-season next year if anything happens to o'brien early in the year? Assuming the season is otherwise going well.

If any player on the list gets a LTI there is that option?...

 

[WearyCrow]

If any player on the list gets a LTI there is that option?...

I thought i'd seen someone make that point, probably yourself. Cheers that's good to know, I think that would be be the only catastrophic structural hole that might open up next year since Strachan is obviously not up to scratch.

I wonder how close the club thinks we are to a flag. Presumably they have to be aiming for the next 2-3 years. On that basis i hope Nicks has that firmly in mind when it comes to selection choices next year.

Another positive from the post-season thus far is that it doesn't look like they've created a handout job for Sloane

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

Can't have your cake and eat it too, it's as simple as that, 3 good mature age players to add to our experience and a top end draft talent is excellent business.

#edit - And a F/S for what now is looking likely to be at little real cost to see what he's got.

I just feel like some are nitpicking because all our deals were known so early, usually we are just scratching for at least one interesting trade at this point! We will be the only club to bring in 4 players that will all be best 22 in 2025 and increase the floor for our depth, that's good business from whatever angle you take.

 

[Redline]

I would held off extending Borlase which we only did post season and seen what happened during the trade period. Especially once we knew Keane was staying.

I know people will say he is handy depth but after four years on the list he should of been offering more than that.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

So will Melbourne now chase pick 2 from NM?

5 and 9 for 2 and ?

Who is Melbourne after?

That trade makes a lot of sense for both clubs, surprised there haven't been murmurings about it yet

 

[Coopers]

Seems like the GC are holding everything else up in this trade period.

Luko
Rioli
Noble
Pick 13

It's the one time of year that they are relevant.

Imagine if they just refuse to do any of these trades in the end, just to mess with all the other teams.

Would be kind of funny actually.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

I just feel like some are nitpicking because all our deals were known so early, usually we are just scratching for at least one interesting trade at this point! We will be the only club to bring in 4 players that will all be best 22 in 2025 and increase the floor for our depth, that's good business from whatever angle you take.

And throw in a new Milera .

 

[Mutineer]

I just feel like some are nitpicking because all our deals were known so early, usually we are just scratching for at least one interesting trade at this point! We will be the only club to bring in 4 players that will all be best 22 in 2025 and increase the floor for our depth, that's good business from whatever angle you take.

Who is the other player that will be best 22 in 2025?

Welsh?

I'm not seeing that if that's who you refer to and pick 4 may not be ready immediately either?

 

[Vader]

If any player on the list gets a LTI there is that option?...

Yeah... if someone suffers a season-ending injury or illness before then, we would have the option of putting them on the Inactive List and selecting a replacement in the MSD. That replacement could easily be a successor to Strachan, as our low-cost state-based AFL-ready ruckman.

The odds are (unfortunately) that we'll have at least one player in this position.