Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation (Rumours total 25, last 28th August)

[GreyCrow]

Agree its false but also shows how unfair the fixture was and the result it created.

I thought every one said at the start of the year we got our dream draw because of the Sydney thing?

Home games
Cats , Demons, Bombers , Power, Lions, Eagles, Tigers , Swans, Giants, Saints , Hawks, Dogs

Away
GC, Dockers, Blues, Kangas, Pies, Hawks, Lions , Bombers, Cats, Swans

Double ups
Cats, Hawks, Lions, Power, Swans, Bombers

Swans and Lions only teams from 23 top 8 with Power as an obligatory double up . Swans scraped into 8th and those 3 should have been split wins along with Cats. Bombers and Hawks should have been 2-0 wins

It wasnt that hard a draw

 

[119others]

This is a false narrative

Last year we finished 1 and a half games from 8th

This year we are 4 and a half games back

That’s true but to be balanced I am not sure why so many completely ignore the unprecedentedly difficult draw we got. 1/2/3/5/7/11 double ups has to be part of the conversation. If Power had got these games does anyone reals think they finish second or probably lose 2-3 of them based on their run of close victories often against non finals teams

When we had double up games in 2022 vs Kangas and Eagles it was repeated HUNDREDS of times by some what an easy draw we had. The year just gone is like nothing we have ever seen before. A 10th ranked team having by far the hardest draw for any team or a “brutal draw” as the afl website said itself.

 

[GreyCrow]

That’s true but to be balanced I am not sure why so many completely ignore the unprecedentedly difficult draw we got. 1/2/3/5/7/11 double ups has to be part of the conversation team or a “brutal draw” as the afl website said itself.

Where do these numbers come from?

 

[119others]

I thought every one said at the start of the year we got our dream draw because of the Sydney thing?

Home games
Cats , Demons, Bombers , Power, Lions, Eagles, Tigers , Swans, Giants, Saints , Hawks, Dogs

Away
GC, Dockers, Blues, Kangas, Pies, Hawks, Lions , Bombers, Cats, Swans

Double ups
Cats, Hawks, Lions, Power, Swans, Bombers

Swans and Lions only teams from 23 top 8 with Power as an obligatory double up . Swans scraped into 8th and those 3 should have been split wins along with Cats. Bombers and Hawks should have been 2-0 wins

It wasnt that hard a draw

It was predicted to be 6th hardest which is ridiculous even considering we were the 10th based team

Winners and losers: Who cashed in on AFL’s ‘weighted’ 2024 fixture as Dimma gifted dream run

Winners and losers: Who cashed in on AFL’s ‘weighted’ fixture as Dimma gifted dream run

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[119others]

Where do these numbers come from?

They are the true numbers for the year. Where our double up teams finished. Our “brutal draw”

Whose fixture was hardest? Power capitalise, Crows dealt brutal run

Which teams ended up with the hardest and easiest draws in 2024?

www.afl.com.au

 

[GreyCrow]

It was predicted to be 6th hardest which is ridiculous even considering we were the 10th based team

Winners and losers: Who cashed in on AFL’s ‘weighted’ 2024 fixture as Dimma gifted dream run

Winners and losers: Who cashed in on AFL’s ‘weighted’ fixture as Dimma gifted dream run

www.foxsports.com.au

Hawthorn had the 5th hardest - oiks

Joining Brisbane and Port Adelaide on the podium of toughest fixtures is Sydney, primarily because they don’t have a double-up against any of last year’s bottom four.

All finished top of the ladder

 

[Syd Crow]

Sharpe's a right old bastard to the French!

 

[GreyCrow]

They are the true numbers for the year. Where our double up teams finished. Our “brutal draw”

Whose fixture was hardest? Power capitalise, Crows dealt brutal run

Which teams ended up with the hardest and easiest draws in 2024?

www.afl.com.au

Another false narrative

So Sydney by this logic had the easiest draw?

The teams had not placed there until they played all teams. Winning or losing creates the ladder not the difficulty of the draw

You can certainly use this years ladder to determine strength etc but you cant retrofit it after the games have been played

 

[Bevoman]

Hasn’t it been reported a number of times he isn’t overly enamoured with the concept of returning to Adelaide?

No one nominates their preferred club until their managers advises the trade deal can be made

 

[PeterSalt]

I don't really care how hard the draw was

I still think if the club want to compete regularly at the pointy end, we need to be good enough to win these games

The beauty of finishing lower is potentially better access to young talent and exposing players who possibly aren't going to make it in the longer term

It's also putting more pressure on the club and coaching staff

We weren't going to be bother the top 4 if we had an easier draw anyway

 

[119others]

Another false narrative

So Sydney by this logic had the easiest draw?

The teams had not placed there until they played all teams. Winning or losing creates the ladder not the difficulty of the draw

You can certainly use this years ladder to determine strength etc but you cant retrofit it after the games have been played

If you can’t agree with me that our unprecedentedly difficult draw hindered our W/L ratio let’s leave it as we live in different universes

AFLs own website called it brutal. In 2023, add up the ladder positions of double up games and the hardest draws were for Pies and us AGAIN- we are unlucky (mid 40’s).

This year we finished with 29 playing 1/2/3/5/7. Never happened before from my understanding any not sure anyone can seriously argue against this

One question for you- if Power got our double up games compared to their ONE top 8 team twice (8th) and 5 non finalists, do you truly believe they would have finished second?

 

[GreyCrow]

If you can’t agree with me that our unprecedentedly difficult draw hindered our W/L ratio let’s leave it as we live in different universes

AFLs own website called it brutal. In 2023, add up the ladder positions of double up games and the hardest draws were for Pies and us AGAIN- we are unlucky (mid 40’s).

This year we finished with 29 playing 1/2/3/5/7. Never happened before from my understanding any not sure anyone can seriously argue against this

One question for you- if Power got our double up games compared to their ONE top 8 team twice (8th) and 5 non finalists, do you truly believe they would have finished second?

Your own link said Sydney, Brisbane and Port had the hardest draws

They finished 1.2 and 5

As you point out you believe your fairy tale I believe my figures and arguments I posted. I dont rely on someone else to tell me ( Fox) I looked at the teams, the games and the numbers

Feel free to criticise my numbers

 

[1970crow]

I think the Burton hire is symptomatic of where we have been at a club over the last 10 years

The worst thing is we have had 2 CEOs and 2 Chairmen in that time and the issues ( as I see them) are still front and centre

Yes a lot of these issues would disappear or be swept under the carpet if we were successful but we havent been

Its ironic Nicks was mostly appointed to fix our culture but it seems he ignored the club hierarchy

Nix was appointed to fix culture, he was appointed to make players happy. 2 very different things. Our culture hasn't changed one bit, we're still a self satisfied, insular and comfortable being average club. Senior players are still entitled and lack respect for the backboners and crushers.

 

[1970crow]

He must be ropeable at Smith and Laird then

Unfortunately the senior player clique only apply high standard expectations outwardly.

 

[1970crow]

If it was Murphy I'd understand, but Hinge actually performs so has a right to an opinion.

If the young kids don't like it they can suck it up.

This is what you need in an elite professional environment, you need positive tension.

As someone suggested, as long as The same blowtorch is applied to senior players.

The issue is obviously that the blowtorch is not applied evenly. You reckon Laird and Smith have copped it from Hinge? Hinge would have his clique membership cancelled if he questioned Tex's defensive 'efforts'.

 

[El Doederino]

So did you have inside info on Cumming not coming - or going on hearsay from elsewhere?


Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

Inside info

 

[CromradeCromulent]

Inside info

so hearsay, got it

 

[1970crow]

One of my oldest friends and his wife won a competition for a trip with the Crows to a Melbourne match last year. Nankervis was assigned to sit with them on the plane. Apparently, he engaged superbly and they think he is fantastic. He remembers their names when they visit the club. I've heard that the Crows do this sort of thing much better than many other clubs.

That's awesome, do they have silverware for that? Can put it next to our website hits trophy and the continuity cups that Pyke got us.

 

[El Doederino]

Moving clubs isn't a decision made lightly. They would look a lot deeper than end of year ladder position. Or do you believe a player earning upwards of half a million a year would make not just an employment change, but move interstate, uproot their family, leave their team mates behind based on a quick glance at the ladder?

I don't think finishing with 2.5 wins less this season on the back of having more injuries than last year, with a tougher draw translates into rabble. Rankine playing against Geelong and Richmond, thilthorpe against bombers and Melbourne alone could have turned those close losses into wins.

The bigfooty negativity spiral extrapolates our position into a rabble.

Cumming has maybe 3 seasons left of footy and only played in 5 finals. He could either join us or Port. If all other options are equal, and you had no allegiance to either, you would pick Port. They are a Monty to play finals most of the next 3 years esp with their stars all having at least 5 years left in them.

There’s no guarantee we make finals in the next 3 years and today would look further away than we did 12 months ago.

 

[Vader]

I thought every one said at the start of the year we got our dream draw because of the Sydney thing?

We got a dream scheduling, in terms of Prime Time TV games. It didn't play into the teams we had to double up against.

 

[El Doederino]

so hearsay, got it

Why did you even ask then? Go be upset somewhere else.

 

[Slime Roy]

KG & Cornesy had a "Live Exclusive" on yesterday's show.

During the ad-break of their broadcast from the show grounds, D.Burgess walked past with his family. They tried to get him to speak on mic but he said "nah I've got the family with me" so couldn't really do it, but did announce.. categorically...

"That he was NOT leaving the Crows"

So (thankfully) I guess that rumor can now be officially quashed.

In less crucial information to the immediate success of our football club,

Graham also informed listeners that The Stud is back on the scene,

announcing he is now officially single.

 

[1970crow]

We need depth of around 30 players.

Not during a rebuild though. I don't agree that we should target depth, depth is created by whilst turning over draftees that aren't quite up to it. Murphy and McHenry are examples of depth and reality is that just about any non-key tall 2nd rounder can provide 95% of their in-game performance. Once we've got a contention worthy 22, we can start targeting depth. Right now we need every spare list spot used to try and unearth a difference maker. Adding Lukoscious and only 2 draft selections is criminally poor list management strategy for a club with our record over the last few years. How we can possibly believe we just need minor adjustment at the top end and a touch more depth is remarkable. We're desperately trying to keep the group together like we did in 2017, except off the back of no finals for 7 years and not being within a bull's roar of genuinely competing.


That said, given our actual goal is to be competing for a spot in the bottom of the 8, it's really not that surprising. Depressing, but not surprising.

 

[MarcusP2]

Your own link said Sydney, Brisbane and Port had the hardest draws

They finished 1.2 and 5

As you point out you believe your fairy tale I believe my figures and arguments I posted. I dont rely on someone else to tell me ( Fox) I looked at the teams, the games and the numbers

Feel free to criticise my numbers

Not sure how you got the bolded?

Semi-finalists in 2023, the Power were expected to have one of the hardest runs this year. But the way the season has panned out means Port had the equal easiest double-ups in the competition, alongside West Coast.

Melbourne and Collingwood imploding is what's really skewed these numbers.

 

[1970crow]

One piece of second hand info I received was that Keane told quite a few members of the playing group he was staying with the crows before he went to Ireland. The club gave its blessing for him to go across before the final game based on this. Whether this means anything and if he’s put pen to paper I’m not sure.

The source also told me that the playing group is actually quite united, leads me to believe that 5AA caller Shaun was taking rubbish.

If this is true though it makes our list management decisions quite interesting. As I mentioned before Chris burgess has a contract for this year, this doesn’t necessarily mean we won’t delist and pay him out.

If we're going to delist and pay someone out, surely Smith is first in line. Half back is a much easier role to cover in terms of depth requirement. Maybe depends on what happens with Berg.