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[Vader]

Hey Vader - I think you and I might be on the same page for once here in terms of what Luko brings.

Lukosius is not a lot of things, be there is definitely a place for him in the 22.

The reason I said to name your 22 that didn't have him, was because I would have been surprised if you could find 22 better players to fill the spots from our list.

I think he will be a good addition and provide a receiver with an elite kick that we are desperately short on.

The debate is going to be around cost.

I think it is going to be interesting to see if we can land a midfielder BEFORE the draft. That will change a lot of my assumptions around what we would be willing to pay for Jack.

I have no insider view or confidence in what our club rates highly in terms of pick values - I'm sure that Nicks understands his position and will be pushing every button and pulling every lever to improve ASAP to try and save his skin. I think the prospect of a new draftee being the midfield hope in a few years time is not going to wash with the current staff.

Fully expecting us to trade in players that give a quick sugar hit rather than build us up for a proper premiership run.

We will see.

Oh, and just an observation ... drop the Fabio bit. It's not as clever as you seem to think it is, it's not going to stick.

There might be a place for him on the wing... maybe. What worries me is that Gold Coast have been shuffling him around all over the field for year, trying to find a position that suits him, all to no avail. Now they're giving up and putting him on the trade table as a way out of their list & salary squeezes.

While we have 3x tall forwards in TT/Fog/Tex, we do have a shortage of quality wingmen. Sholl is arguably the best of them, and he's not much chop either.

I'm not sure we want to be paying $1M for a wingman either...

... and I still think he's softer then butter.

 

[Vader]

You reckon his trunk got thicker on that season off?

Ans people wonder why he was so popular with the ladies

Trunk, not trunks.

 

[Betts are off]

I don't recall us offering 2 x firsts last year, but whatever his value last year it's gone down considerably this year.

If we are looking at Oliver, we should be looking to reduce the length of contract/ have Melbourne pay the TTP difference, or they give us a pick so they can offer $1.5million to Mac Andrew next year.

The entire saga happened before trade week last year. So I agree, I doubt it even got to trade packages before MFC poured cold water over it

 

[BRL121]

The entire saga happened before trade week last year. So I agree, I doubt it even got to trade packages before MFC poured cold water over it

Yeah, the two-firsts claim is nonsense. Adelaide stated that they expressed a polite interest and were informed that he was not available. That was it.

 

[dylan123]

Isn't he getting off season operations on multiple things, including a chronic shoulder?

Oliver has joined Petracca on the sidelines after undergoing surgery on his hand on Monday.

Goodwin says star pair will stay as surgery ends Oliver's season

Clayton Oliver won't play Melbourne's remaining two games of the year after undergoing hand surgery

www.afl.com.au

The last time I can see Oliver had shoulder surgery at the end of the season in 2018 where he had a reco on both shoulders.

Us chasing Oliver again worries me. I would much rather we took pick 4 to the draft and bring in one of the gun young mids and back ourselves to improve with the group we already have. We already have a good group of young kids and just need to add some more class in the middle and some more depth which we are trying to do with guys like ANB, Luko and Cumming.

Going all in for Oliver would be a massive risk, we would be giving up this years and potentially next years first for someone who has had a lot of off field issues. No guarantee he gets back to the level he was at prior to the off field issues. You also then have the risk that he unsettles the group and starts to be a bad influence on the group.

To me there are just way to many red flags and risks here.

Remove pick 4 from the equation and how do you feel? I don't think you'd find many so willing to take on the length of contract, cost + give up this and next years first rounders.

End of the day, it's not happening as we don't even have the list spots to make it happen unless we have some guys requesting a trade out that doesn't appear to be the case at this stage.

 

[crow2crow]

Cumming free agent
Oliver, ANB and Demons F2, F3 for Crows F1 and Pick 25
Demons F2, F3 to GC for Lukosius

you need afl to signoff using f1 and f2 but i suspect you would get it through given how many draft picks we have recently taken

i doubt melbourne do it. i personally wouldn't do it but reid and kelly might

 

[Moe Ron]

People would much rather go to Geelong than Adelaide …… Adelaide has all the aspects of life you’d like …. except culture

I think there is an appeal to Geelong, but IMO, it's not culture. It's the fact you're close to nice beaches (St Kilda ain't great) but only an hour-ish away from Melbourne city (although that drive can suck in peak times)...you can basically still have a Melbourne life/connection living in Geelong.

Adelaide smacks the pants off Geelong in terms of a city with culture and vibe. I know people love to refer to Adelaide as big country town, but hot dawg, Geelong really is a BIG COUNTRY TOWN, not really a city.

Again, IMO.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

There might be a place for him on the wing... maybe. What worries me is that Gold Coast have been shuffling him around all over the field for year, trying to find a position that suits him, all to no avail. Now they're giving up and putting him on the trade table as a way out of their list & salary squeezes.

While we have 3x tall forwards in TT/Fog/Tex, we do have a shortage of quality wingmen. Sholl is arguably the best of them, and he's not much chop either.

I'm not sure we want to be paying $1M for a wingman either...

... and I still think he's softer then butter.

Lukosius is one player you can see having some good minor round games ,,,, and failing in Finals intensity

He’s young enough to change somewhat …. but leave it go too long and the lazy habits ect are ingrained … ala Gibbs

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I think there is an appeal to Geelong, but IMO, it's not culture. It's the fact you're close to nice beaches (St Kilda ain't great) but only an hour-ish away from Melbourne city (although that drive can suck in peak times)...you can basically still have a Melbourne life/connection living in Geelong.

Adelaide smacks the pants off Geelong in terms of a city with culture and vibe. I know people love to refer to Adelaide as big country town, but hot dawg, Geelong really is a BIG COUNTRY TOWN, not really a city.

Again, IMO.

Adelaide beaches **** all over Geelongs …. for starters there’s an average of 4 degrees differential in water temperature

Adelaide beaches have always been the city’s biggest attraction …. until humans thought they could improve them …. what a disaster that was

 

[cleanhands]

People would much rather go to Geelong than Adelaide …… Adelaide has all the aspects of life you’d like …. except culture

You really shouldn’t be posting here

 

[Moe Ron]

Adelaide beaches **** all over Geelongs …. for starters there’s an average of 4 degrees differential in water temperature

Adelaide beaches have always been the city’s biggest attraction …. until humans thought they could improve them …. what a disaster that was

I agree with you - we have bloody great beaches! But when St Kilda or Williamstown are you baselines, Geelong starts to look good

 

[Mostyn]

You think a deal could get done without pick 4 involved?? I can't see it myself. We offered 2 x first rounders last year.

I could see Oliver and Melbourne's F1 for Adelaide's F1.

No club would do any more. His contract is the biggest poisoned pill in the AFL.

 

[Mostyn]

People would much rather go to Geelong than Adelaide …… Adelaide has all the aspects of life you’d like …. except culture

Geelong is virtually a Melbourne suburb now, but with rural attractions for country boys.

 

[Mutineer]

Geelong is virtually a Melbourne suburb now, but with rural attractions for country boys.

Yeah plenty of attractions in Corio...All bad.

Crime rate in Corio

Crime rate profile of Corio suburb

redsuburbs.com.au

 

[Mostyn]

Yeah plenty of attractions in Corio...All bad.

Crime rate in Corio

Crime rate profile of Corio suburb

redsuburbs.com.au

Well, I agree with you - but I think there's many who don't.

 

[Billy Cart]

People would much rather go to Geelong than Adelaide …… Adelaide has all the aspects of life you’d like …. except culture

So Womadelaide, the Festival isn't culture? Well bless me.

 

[hippyhippy]

I've stayed in Geelong a few times ... It's not a place is want to live. Admit Adelaide isn't the greatest either. For a 20yo youngster earning more money than any of us, pretty sure they both suck.

 

[Gtowncrow]

Yeah plenty of attractions in Corio...All bad.

Crime rate in Corio

Crime rate profile of Corio suburb

redsuburbs.com.au

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Corio/Norlane... Perfect!!!

Our buffer zone from invaders from Melbourne and the North. These places are our "Great Wall".

 

[1990crow]

Corio/Norlane... Perfect!!!

Our buffer zone from invaders from Melbourne and the North. These places are our "Great Wall".

I personally think it starts just west of Werribee

 

[Gtowncrow]

I've stayed in Geelong a few times ... It's not a place is want to live. Admit Adelaide isn't the greatest either. For a 20yo youngster earning more money than any of us, pretty sure they both suck.

I won't give this the red thumbs downs as you have your opinion. But it's wrong. I've lived in both places for many years and the closest comment to share between the two cities is how similar they are to each other. Geelong is simply a condensed version of Adelaide.

They both have their red suburbs but hey also have lots going for them. GFC has recognised that one of their strategic competitive advantages is that Geelong isn't a big city. Given how many AFL footballers come from rural or remote areas, this is often a good outcome for a young man compared to being drafted to central Melbourne. Not always...but often.

Adelaide FC and the city generally could do worse than to identify where it holds advantage over other places and market itself accordingly. But at least we should stop whinging about it. Adelaide is a far, far greater place than the "cheap shot critics" give it credit for.

 

[crow2crow]

I think there is an appeal to Geelong, but IMO, it's not culture. It's the fact you're close to nice beaches (St Kilda ain't great) but only an hour-ish away from Melbourne city (although that drive can suck in peak times)...you can basically still have a Melbourne life/connection living in Geelong.

Adelaide smacks the pants off Geelong in terms of a city with culture and vibe. I know people love to refer to Adelaide as big country town, but hot dawg, Geelong really is a BIG COUNTRY TOWN, not really a city.

Again, IMO.

geelong is a hole and the beaches aren't that great but good surfing in places not far away.

the greatest appeal of geelong is they have a coach who knows what he is doing and list manager and recruitment especially who are geniuses

 

[daniel_4tw]

I've stayed in Geelong a few times ... It's not a place is want to live. Admit Adelaide isn't the greatest either. For a 20yo youngster earning more money than any of us, pretty sure they both suck.

None of the players live in Geelong. They live in either Torquey or live on nearby farms they got on the cheap.

Or they just live in Melbourne and make the 45 minute drive once a fortnight…

 

[Vader]

geelong is a hole and the beaches aren't that great but good surfing in places not far away.

the greatest appeal of geelong is they have a coach who knows what he is doing and list manager and recruitment especially who are geniuses

... and a club sponsor who offers them unbeatable property deals, outside the salary cap, which massively increases their effective salaries. It's called the "Costa Living Allowance" (kudos to Kane McGoodwin for coining the term).

 

[1990crow]

geelong is a hole and the beaches aren't that great but good surfing in places not far away.

the greatest appeal of geelong is they have a coach who knows what he is doing and list manager and recruitment especially who are geniuses

I live in Geelong. You're wrong.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

... and a club sponsor who offers them unbeatable property deals, outside the salary cap, which massively increases their effective salaries. It's called the "Costa Living Allowance" (kudos to Kane McGoodwin for coining the term).

I think he passed on