Certified Legendary Thread 2nd Ashes Test England v Australia June 28-July 2 1930hrs @ Lords

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Don’t even think we’ve bowled that badly outside of Starc’s lack of control. There’s less happening here than Edgbaston, have barely seen a false shot and I don’t think there’s been one play and miss. Poms are too scared to offer up anything with any life in it. Our batsmen need to grind them down in the second innings
 
it's because his wife is there

Australia's cricket glamour couple, Starc has a head like a robber's dog and his wife looks more and more like Uncle Ian with every passing year.
 
Since we got to 3/310 it's been a pathetic disgrace. Give your wicket away and the opponent a sniff and this is where you can wind up. I thought England were the kings of stupid, amateurish cricket but we've decided to up our game in that regard amazingly since late yesterday.
 

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There's no "whataboutisms" mate.
I gave you my opinions clearly which are different to yours.
If you don't agree with them, I don't really care.

You sound like a smug prick TBH.
No, your point was “if so and so aren’t taking wickets, why would anyone else do better” - that’s not really an opinion. They’re also whataboutisms.

I gave you specific reasons, you’ve not been able to do the same. Tell me what Starc, Cummins , Hoff offer with specifics to the pitch the game is being played on - don’t be general, be specific.

As for the last line, well, I’m not sure it’s worth remarking on.
 
Since we got to 3/310 it's been a pathetic disgrace. Give your wicket away and the opponent a sniff and this is where you can wind up. I thought England were the kings of stupid, amateurish cricket but we've decided to up our game in that regard amazingly since late yesterday.
Can't really argue with that, but England are still miles behind and, by the logic of giving it away and the opposition a sniff, the pendulum could well swing back. If they can get the last seven wickets for 100, there's no reason why we can't.
 
Westy, what rationale could there be for not even trying Green with a couple of overs that session?
ummm...yeah Don't think its confidence...

should of come on for Starc that last two overs......

Pat backing in starc..maybe they have a plan for specific batters?

Hopefully see Greenie this session and take a few poles
 
Poor day for Australia so far. Looking like we scored under par. Threw away our wickets.

Haze and Starc have been dreadful. Huge final session coming up. Hopefully we can turn the final session in our favour.
 
Never ceases to amaze me the fans on here.

England get on a bit of a roll and the toys come out of the cot.

England are a strong side at home and aren't just going to roll over. Especially if they feel they have nothing to lose.

Aus are going to have to fight hard from here to earn the win. Looking to Cummind and Halzewood to get Australia back into the contest.
 
Unless the sports science people have pulled rank, Green should bowl much more than he actually does.
This is the very epitome of when to use your genuine fifth bowler on a good batting track and the batting side going well.
I also think if you use a bowler as a last resort, they respond to that. That is why Warne (and his protege Clarke) were advocates of getting the spinner on early.
 

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Certified Legendary Thread 2nd Ashes Test England v Australia June 28-July 2 1930hrs @ Lords

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