Doubles is.Tennis is NOT a TEAM game.
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Doubles is.Tennis is NOT a TEAM game.
Better off locking it up. There’s always an element that want to see Pies players fail. For whatever reasons, weird. Must’ve run over their dog, grandmother, pet cat Chuck or ****ed their mum.The way some have turned on Grundy is disappointing.
Nobody is happy with a contract that is hanging around the club's neck like an albatross, but please stop hating on the guy.
The posters who imagine that he has taken advantage of the club have already stated as much. No point repeating it, it doesn't make it truer.
If this is how this thread continues it will be locked like it was in the past.
Keep it classy.
Gone Critical Anzacday Maggie5 Jen2310
The way some have turned on Grundy is disappointing.
Nobody is happy with a contract that is hanging around the club's neck like an albatross, but please stop hating on the guy.
The posters who imagine that he has taken advantage of the club have already stated as much. No point repeating it, it doesn't make it truer.
If this is how this thread continues it will be locked like it was in the past.
Keep it classy.
Gone Critical Anzacday Maggie5 Jen2310
What a genuinely absurd thing to say. ShamefulAnd the way some supporters demand mindless apologia for players who couldn't care less about anyone but themselves is also disappointing.
It is of course completely irrational to direct 'hate' to Grundy. But it is perfectly rational to see him as a massive burden on the club.
Grundy did his job and fleeced the gutless simpletons in charge of our list management at the time for every penny he could get. Kudos to him and it is they that deserve our 'hate' (even they don't deserve literal hate), not him.
But Grundy so intensely looking out for Grundy has come at a massive cost to Collingwood. It is not 'hating' the guy to point that out, it's just a fact.
The way some have turned on Grundy is disappointing.
Nobody is happy with a contract that is hanging around the club's neck like an albatross, but please stop hating on the guy.
The posters who imagine that he has taken advantage of the club have already stated as much. No point repeating it, it doesn't make it truer.
If this is how this thread continues it will be locked like it was in the past.
Keep it classy.
Gone Critical Anzacday Maggie5 Jen2310
And the way some supporters demand mindless apologia for players who couldn't care less about anyone but themselves is also disappointing.
It is of course completely irrational to direct 'hate' to Grundy. But it is perfectly rational to see him as a massive burden on the club.
Grundy did his job and fleeced the gutless simpletons in charge of our list management at the time for every penny he could get. Kudos to him and it is they that deserve our 'hate' (even they don't deserve literal hate), not him.
But Grundy so intensely looking out for Grundy has come at a massive cost to Collingwood. It is not 'hating' the guy to point that out, it's just a fact.
Hence all the personal attacks, right?Some haven’t turned on him, it’s just now we have evidence to back up what has been known for years, paying $7 million to a ruckman is stupid.
just lock it, it's been done to deathSorry mate, you're spinning it.
"Fleeced the gutless simpletons" is emotionally charged language. It's not factual in any way, it's just your opinion.
Yes, we already said that his contract is a burden. No dispute there. The rest is quite simply, you venting.
If we can't do any better than that, the thread will be locked.
Played his last game in the Black and White on Anzac Day , under the current terms of agreement , will no longer be a Collingwood player by seasons end , let’s move on , looking forward to the trade period to see what players his freed up monies nets us . Bruhn. Taranto , Hill , ? or something outside the box we are not privy to ?
Yes Oni , said it on here in previous pages not going to be an old scratched 45 recordHas something been said to make you confident hes moving on ?
Yes Oni , said it on here in previous pages not going to be an old scratched 45 record
We are not losing Grundy to get McStay. we have more than enough cap space for him. saving 700k on Grundy would give us taranto.As much as I hate the contract I don't see how freeing up around 600-700 k (factoring in paying part of his contract) and using that spare cash to get McStay makes any sense.
So we lose Grundy and we get McStay.
That's a net loss.
In before people say we will get good draft picks as well.
I don't think we will.
I know you were honestly asking , he was asked by the club to take a haircut. He declined , as is his right , the impasse has left both parties to explore their options .Or you could have replied as i was honestly asking and hadnt read the previous 20 odd pages
It makes no difference if you use McStay or Taranto as the player we are going to get.We are not losing Grundy to get McStay. we have more than enough cap space for him. saving 700k on Grundy would give us taranto.
I didn't word it very well. We have the cap space to bring in both McStay and Taranto without losing Grundy. We are also into a couple of others, so we have the room. The only reason grundy is on the market is because the new Administration doesn't think he's worth what he's being paidIt makes no difference if you use McStay or Taranto as the player we are going to get.
Fact of the matter is f we have the cap space then we can get Taranto anyway. But if we keep Grundy we can't get McStay.
Still boils down to the same thing.
Keep Grundy or get McStay.
I would prefer to keep Grundy.
It makes no difference if you use McStay or Taranto as the player we are going to get.
Fact of the matter is f we have the cap space then we can get Taranto anyway. But if we keep Grundy we can't get McStay.
Still boils down to the same thing.
Keep Grundy or get McStay.
I would prefer to keep Grundy.
Cheers dude , much appreciatedI know you were honestly asking , he was asked by the club to take a haircut. He declined , as is his right , the impasse has left both parties to explore their options .
I agree with them, he isn't worth it.I didn't word it very well. We have the cap space to bring in both McStay and Taranto without losing Grundy. We are also into a couple of others, so we have the room. The only reason grundy is on the market is because the new Administration doesn't think he's worth what he's being paid
You know something isn't quite right if we are agreeing with each other.I’m with you Otto. Which considerably weakens our joint position.
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GW has been wanting to trade Grundy since the day he arrived.
Eddie didn’t want any high profile players to leave so pressure everyone to get the deals done.
GW is very glad no more Eddie. Preference is JDG over BG.
Your a good man JThe way some have turned on Grundy is disappointing.
Nobody is happy with a contract that is hanging around the club's neck like an albatross, but please stop hating on the guy.
Keep it classy.
Gone Critical Anzacday Maggie5 Jen2310
Hi TD. It has been reported that some were happy for him to be traded, Grundy said he would on stay in Victoria for 7 years, the Footy Dept was only prepared to offer a maximum of 5 years, and then it was announced we had accepted 7 years. So somebody reportedly overruled the Footy DeptIs it True that Footy Department that Grundy was only given the Big Contract because of Eddie and everyone else wanted him Traded?
Grundy as no1 ruckman, 17th on the ladder last year, lost to West Coast this year!!!
Cox and Cameron as no1 ruckman, 11 straight wins…