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[Powerade 08]

Biggest statement for me was "Theres no finals team that wants the chaos game more than Geelong does".

My takeaway is that because their midfield isn't as good as other teams, they want to lock down the midfield and make it a slog. When we played them last time, we were smashing them in the middle in the first half with lots of easy clearances and easy scores, they then went to town on locking down JHF and tightening it up.

I rewatched that game last night... we went in with Visentini leading ruck ... and he did a reasonable job, but if we are honest we would expect more out of Sweet. They also activated their sub Oisin Mullin midway through the game to put a lock on JHF. From what I can tell Mullin hasnt been in great form and hasnt played since round 16, so it will be interesting to see what they do there.

They were missing their top 3 clearance winners - Dangerfield, Bruhn, Bowes.

We should still expect to win the midfield but they will at least be competitive this time around

 

[Bevoman]

He’ll play back for sure, Narkle playing against his old side in a final, it just feels right

Sinn can go on the wing alternating with Jase down back. But I can not see Ken picking him.

We need a flying start in the first quarter, LBJ should start in the forward line and be an option for down back (if required).

 

[Bevoman]

I cant see how Geelong beat us under every circumstance.

Jed will tag Stewart and give away heaps of frees when Stewart is on the ball

 

[Bevoman]

They were missing their top 3 clearance winners - Dangerfield, Bruhn, Bowes.

We should still expect to win the midfield but they will at least be competitive this time around

Blicavs has been training in defence (Cats worried about Charlie) therefore Sweet should dominate the centre bounces

 

[Mutha F]

If jed and Todd play we will lose. Just no place in the team for their levels of non impact.
Todd now at orazio levels of not being able to get past the 1st qtr

 

[Adz2332]

Take it to the bank that Dixon and Narkle are in for Vis and Faz.

Don't hate it... But don't want to waste narkle as the sub

 

[Powerade 08]

If jed and Todd play we will lose. Just no place in the team for their levels of non impact.
Todd now at orazio levels of not being able to get past the 1st qtr

Clearly the key to winning is playing Evans and Narkle, 2 Geelong delistees who have done nothing at Port. In place of Marshall and McEntee who have both played key roles in wins against Geelong. If we don't do that we will lose.

doctor time

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Sinn probably needed to string a few good games together in the SANFL, he just hasn't been able to do that due to injury and form.

I think he has the makings of a good player, but definitely needs more minutes on the field, we don't have time for trial and error here. Whilst he does have a nice kick, quite often in the games he has played he was quite panicked and rushed with his kicking, resulting in a lot of dump kicks, we need composure in defence. Sinn in was a nice idea, but would've been a risk.

I don't really understand how we are being cute or risky putting DBJ down back, a position he actually was AA in once before over, if anything that is the safe bet with the next option being moving Burgoyne or bringing in Williams. Sinn was always the biggest gamble.

Narkle and Evans should be able to cover DBJ offensively.

The risk is if we have an injury to a small defender who goes back?

Burgoyne I guess?

It certainly can't be Narkle or Evans.

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[Schulzenfest]

Narkle, Evans and McEntee is surely the worst collection of small forwards to take the field in a Qualifying Final in AFL history. Narkle is the best one of that lot, and he's like a 6/10 on a good day.

Probably gonna need Rioli to kick 3 or 4 at a minimum to win this.

 

[TazD]

Narkle, Evans and McEntee is surely the worst collection of small forwards to take the field in a Qualifying Final in AFL history. Narkle is the best one of that lot, and he's like a 6/10 on a good day.

Probably gonna need Rioli to kick 3 or 4 at a minimum to win this.

How good is Kenny for getting us to this position? What a king!

 

[Willsy10]

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[PowerBaz]

Narkle, Evans and McEntee is surely the worst collection of small forwards to take the field in a Qualifying Final in AFL history. Narkle is the best one of that lot, and he's like a 6/10 on a good day.

Probably gonna need Rioli to kick 3 or 4 at a minimum to win this.

But we finished second....

 

[PowerBaz]

Narkle, Evans and McEntee is surely the worst collection of small forwards to take the field in a Qualifying Final in AFL history. Narkle is the best one of that lot, and he's like a 6/10 on a good day.

Probably gonna need Rioli to kick 3 or 4 at a minimum to win this.

Here's how they compare.

 

[Gryllis]

I can see the logic behind DBJ back and Narkle in.

That robs our forwardline of an important scoring link, but it keeps a very similar structure with a shuffle in personnel. He hasn't done it for a while, but DBJ is probably also best equipt defensively for Geelong's smalls, compared to the alternatives.

Marshall in for Farrell instead of Narkle is a change to structure. We'd need to adjust our gameplan to give the talls more scoring opportunities, rather than just having them (aside from MG) bring the ball to ground, and that's not happening in a final. No point bringing the ball to ground if there's nobody there to get it.

 

[PJ Power]

Here's how they compare.


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Dreadful

 

[Addy23]

I can see the logic behind DBJ back and Narkle in.

That robs our forwardline of an important scoring link, but it keeps a very similar structure with a shuffle in personnel. He hasn't done it for a while, but DBJ is probably also best equipt defensively for Geelong's smalls, compared to the alternatives.

Marshall in for Farrell instead of Narkle is a change to structure. We'd need to adjust our gameplan to give the talls more scoring opportunities, rather than just having them (aside from MG) bring the ball to ground, and that's not happening in a final. No point bringing the ball to ground if there's nobody there to get it.

We need to adjust our gameplan more if it's DBJ down back for Farrell. Farrell and Houston have minimal defensive responsibilities which allows them to attack as HBs. If DBJ stays as a lockdown defender on their smalls, who's doing the attacking as HBs? Evans and Burton yes but we've always had 3. It has to be Sinn down back for this very reason.

And please don't tell me DBJ is attacking cause we're in a world of trouble if he is haha

 

[Bevoman]

Here's how they compare.


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And that does not factor in the amount of full games where Evans & Narkle are often the Sub.
Where Narkle who is not a forward is the ideal sub.

For what it's worth I noted this on the Geelong thread.

QUOTE: I would much prefer Port play Esava in defence, than forward.

His unpredictable play causes issues in defence but he can be a handful on his day forward.

He was forced into defence and ruck at Geelong after we got Cameron and it was never his go.

Port have made the right call here.

 

[Handyandy]

I have a feeling if McEntee goes to him again he will give away free after free.

Scott will have spoken to the umpires and they will be on the look out for any infringement.

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On the main board someone said Scott had brought the issue up on Melbourne radio & had discussed it with umps.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

On the main board someone said Scott had brought the issue up on Melbourne radio & had discussed it with umps.

There's some heavy-duty irony for you. Chris Scott complaining about a small forward roughing up a tall defender.

 

[Powerade 08]

Narkle, Evans and McEntee is surely the worst collection of small forwards to take the field in a Qualifying Final in AFL history. Narkle is the best one of that lot, and he's like a 6/10 on a good day.

Probably gonna need Rioli to kick 3 or 4 at a minimum to win this.

Yep we have the worst forward line since Collingwood, Melbourne and Richmond x3. We're stuffed

 

[240volt]

Yep we have the worst forward line since Collingwood, Melbourne and Richmond x3. We're stuffed

We have two forwards, MG and Rioli.
The rest make a cameo appearance.
Bottom line is the midfield can’t put in there usual shit effort in finals or we’re fkd.
Time to stand up when it counts.

 

[Bevoman]

On the main board someone said Scott had brought the issue up on Melbourne radio & had discussed it with umps.

My concern is the Cats know our Jed plan for Stewart and in fact changed Stewarts position from a pure defender where Umpires ignore holds on defenders but they do and should, pay a free when a mid is infringed.

 

[Bevoman]

Yep we have the worst forward line since Collingwood, Melbourne and Richmond x3. We're stuffed

Narkle is not a forward so our three Amigos should not be on the ground at the same time

 

[Peninsula Boy]

We have two forwards, MG and Rioli.

The Horn Dog is playing forward a fair whack of time and loving it.

 

[240volt]

Narkle, Evans and McEntee is surely the worst collection of small forwards to take the field in a Qualifying Final in AFL history. Narkle is the best one of that lot, and he's like a 6/10 on a good day.

Probably gonna need Rioli to kick 3 or 4 at a minimum to win this.

Taking what you have said, and I agree with you.
Is the list good enough to win a flag ?
Having the worst collection of small forwards in AFL history doesn’t sound promising.