Preview Changes R18 v Bulldogs

[The Falcon Strike]

I think I would bring in an O Allent type for Nic Nat, don't think we should play 2 ruckman unless both are in top form and we can see a real value in it.
and if Barrass is ready he takes Schoey spot, the rest will have to wait their turn.

My concern too

Vardy applies zero defensive pressure

He goes ok as a ruck - but with three marking forwards already - adding in Vardy makes us cumbersome

I’d be very tempted to see if Lycett can ruck all day like a nankervis and have someone like redden/Schofield chop out

I’d be very tempted to go sheed for Nic

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Some have pointed it out when Vardy comes in he has to rest fwd which does point to the fact 4 tall fwds becomes too many. They didnt want Nic Nat playing fwd taking hangers. This is where they wont have the same concerns with Vardy. He will play fwd also.

Nic Nat - Vardy 2nd Ruck but with fwd capablity Straight swap
Waterman - Ryan TEAM BALANCE with Vardy in.
Barrass - Schofield Straight swap.

Seriously, you just cut and paste "Out: Masten, Waterman" every week don't you. Your hatred of them is beyond a joke now, it's actually concerning.

Round 17

Ryan confirmed to play at East Perth.

Kennedy - Vardy
Darling - Allen
Lecras - Ahchee
Sheed - Masten
Barrass - Schofield

Sheed in now for the same reasons is better than Masten. He was lucky just like Waterman due to injuries.
Loved Oscar Allen's debut, looks a real footballer unlike Waterman. Alec is the better Waterman. Good to see him back on the weekend too.

Round 16

IN Kennedy, Petruccelle, Sheed, Vardy, Venables
OUT Mcinnes, Cripps, Masten, Hutchings, Waterman,

Round 15

INs
JK, Ahchee, Sheed, Venables, Barrass, Watson, Petruccelle

OUTS
Mcinnes, Waterman, Masten, Hutchings, Schofield, Jetta, Lecras

Getting rid of slow guys and Old has beens. And never will be's in Waterman and Mcinnes.

Round 14

Cripps-Venables
Waterman-Petruccelle
Nelson-Barrass
Masten-Hutchings

Round 13 - to be fair you didn't have Masten as an out this week, though that's probably because he was already out of the side.

Ins Shuey, Ryan, Petruccelle
Outs Nelson, Waterman, Hutch

Waterman was crap. Ahchee was great and can play the 3rd tall. We need run in this team. No need for waterman when NN and Slyce kick goals.

Round 11

Outs Hutch, Masten, Waterman
Ins Shuey, Ainsworth, Petch

Round 10

INS Shuey, Petruccelle
Outs Masten, Waterman
Hutchings deserves games until Ryan and Venables return. Masten has gone back to shit.

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[Quinz]

You can play Vardy ruck/bench the way NN was, I don't think he has to rest forward, we're already set up to rotate our rucks heavily through the bench.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

You can play Vardy ruck/bench the way NN was, I don't think he has to rest forward, we're already set up to rotate our rucks heavily through the bench.

But that worked because it allowed us to rest a caged lion

Sacrificing breaks for other players to maximise Nic’s output is a strategy that can and has worked

Sacrificing rest for midfielders to unleash Vardy doesn’t have the same impact

Scott’s a first ruck / he plays his best football as a first ruck. I recall a game against the hawks in the wet where he dominated solo (coming back from injury form memory)

To maximise our talent on field - i think Scott rucks 80-85% and we find a solution for the other 15-20%

We use a Schofield / redden or another riskier option is throwing gov in there (which he loves) and during those times using TB as the intercept defender - something he’s better at than as a pure lockdown

 

[dave123]

Out: Naita
In: Vardy

Dogs are pretty short up forward and likely to only have Naughton, Schache and Roughie working through there as true talls. I don't think Boyd is expected back? Schofield is a much more flexible defender, especially as Barrass is coming in from back troubles (geddit?)

Can't see any other changes being reasonable speculations from there barring someone not getting up due to injury.

Midfield group is humming. Not sure why we would mess with what we have there currently. Sheed is just gonna have to keep scoring runs in the seconds until injury or form makes a place. He can't say he hasn't been given the inside running on carving out his spot.

#mixedmetaphorsftw

Or rest one mids if he’s carrying any niggles ....

 

[hungrytiger]

Miguel you just dont understand how we have managed Nic Nat..He would normally rest fwd a lot more. This is big difference this season. Vardy comes in. Vardy wont just ruck 20% of the game and be on the bench the rest. He plays fwd. This is the part you just cannot fathom. Vardy will play fwd at CHF now Darling will become Jake Waterman.. That is the role Darling suits best. He is a hell of a lot better than Waterman.

And tbh next season i can see Oscar Allen or Jarrod Brander going ahead of Waterman..

 

[hungrytiger]

See the keyword in Falcons post is Strategy. Something im familiar with. Nic Nat and Vardy will not rotate the same.

 

[Shmiddy15]

It'd be great if lycett could ruck a full game, but I don't think he's capable of that right now. I don't see any chance of us not bringing Vardy in this week after he was squeezed out from the GWS team and then played well in the WAFL on the weekend. Sure he might not play great, and after a few games they may consider other options, but I'd be staggered if Vardy doesn't get first crack.

 

[WestCoast05]

Yeo lined up for a centre bounce in the ruck yesterday but I don't think that was planned.

Rumour has it that it had something to do with NicNat's knee..

sorry, I had to

 

[hungrytiger]

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/w...ss-of-spiritual-leader-naitanui-ng-b88898081z

Vardy is pretty much in..
Now just the question of does this change fwd line set up. I believe so.

Ryan or Petch in for Waterman..When Vardy goes Fwd Darling plays Watermans role.

 

[ChampRevesby]

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/w...ss-of-spiritual-leader-naitanui-ng-b88898081z

Vardy is pretty much in..
Now just the question of does this change fwd line set up. I believe so.

Ryan or Petch in for Waterman..When Vardy goes Fwd Darling plays Watermans role.

Where is all this waterman talk coming from? Did he kill a puppy?

 

[Cuzz09]

Keep the same team that beat pies...

Except:

Out: NN
In: Vardy

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[CoastersFlag No.5]

Where is all this waterman talk coming from? Did he kill a puppy?

It's got me stuffed. He was the link man between our forward line and half back allowing Darling and Kennedy to stay in the forward 50 and kick goals. No way Petch or Ryan can do that.

 

[Candiru]

You can play Vardy ruck/bench the way NN was, I don't think he has to rest forward, we're already set up to rotate our rucks heavily through the bench.

If there is any silver lining – there isn't – it's that Lycett and Vardy are both ruck/forwards. Naitanui has never really been much of a forward.

 

[Suma Magic]

Simpson on Whateley this morning talked about our options:
- replace with Vardy
- take the “more traditional approach” and go with 1 ruck. He talked about how Lycett can ruck longer than Naitanui.

Sounded like he was genuinely considering the 1 ruck option.

I for one welcome our new 1 ruck strategy overlord.

 

[bombard]

Seriously, you just cut and paste "Out: Masten, Waterman" every week don't you. Your hatred of them is beyond a joke now, it's actually concerning.

Round 17



Round 16



Round 15



Round 14



Round 13 - to be fair you didn't have Masten as an out this week, though that's probably because he was already out of the side.



Round 11



Round 10



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[Patron]

I think a lot of it depends on how well Vardy plays. His form hasn’t been too great this year admittedly injury effected etc. the reason we played two rucks was because nic was too good not to play but he could only play 60% game time. Vardy isn’t too good not to play.


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[Miguel Sanchez]

Miguel you just dont understand how we have managed Nic Nat..He would normally rest fwd a lot more. This is big difference this season. Vardy comes in. Vardy wont just ruck 20% of the game and be on the bench the rest. He plays fwd. This is the part you just cannot fathom. Vardy will play fwd at CHF now Darling will become Jake Waterman.. That is the role Darling suits best. He is a hell of a lot better than Waterman.

And tbh next season i can see Oscar Allen or Jarrod Brander going ahead of Waterman..

Darling played the best footy of his career and was the form player of the competition earlier this year playing as the number 1 target, but he's best suited to Waterman's role? Nah.

What I cannot fathom is how you've written off a kid in his second season who's one of the more promising tall forwards we've unearthed since Darling, and has played almost every game in a team that's second on the ladder. It's not just wanting him dropped every week, you're saying he's "not a real footballer" and a never-will-be. That's just extraordinary calls to make about a kid that's barely put a foot wrong so far. It's astounding.

I still fail to see how playing Vardy in NicNat's minutes requires a structural change that involves dropping your least favourite Waterman. It's simple maths. Say Nat played 65% of game time, all in the ruck, and Lycett played 80% - 35/45 ruck/forward. If you bring in Vardy to play Nic's 65%, Lycett does maybe 70% ruck with 10% forward and Vardy does 30/35. You've got a resting ruck in the forward line for the exact same amount of time you did before. Why does that squeeze another forward out? It doesn't, it's just an excuse for you to drop a player you (inexplicably) don't rate.

The same with your insistence on swapping Sheed with Masten. Sheed can't play Masten's role, the guys who play Sheed's role are in good form, and Masten's in reasonable form himself. But you want to shoehorn Sheed into the side, have someone else (not sure who, Redden?) switch out to a wing that they're less suited to and drop a guy you don't like.

If you just admitted "I don't like these guys, I want them out of the team" that'd be one thing. But trying to justify them as being strategically good moves is either deluding yourself or taking the rest of us for idiots.

 

[Chris_6678]

I can understand having Vardy in The team can make us seem too tall but it isn’t like we will be having all of Vardy ,JK, Lycett & Darling in the forward line all at once. JK and Darling didn’t look a 100% and i think they might struggle in a few games till they are. We can use Vardy to help manage those two so they might need to spend a little extra time in the bench.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Simpson on Whateley this morning talked about our options:
- replace with Vardy
- take the “more traditional approach” and go with 1 ruck. He talked about how Lycett can ruck longer than Naitanui.

Sounded like he was genuinely considering the 1 ruck option.

I for one welcome our new 1 ruck strategy overlord.

Interview here

https://www.sen.com.au/programs/whateley/


This is the week to try the one ruck thing if that's the way they want to go. The one positive we may get out of the NN thing is adding a mid rotation to the mix.

 

[Suma Magic]

Interview here

https://www.sen.com.au/programs/whateley/


This is the week to try the one ruck thing if that's the way they want to go. The one positive we may get out of the NN thing is adding a mid rotation to the mix.

Especially considering the rain.

I wonder if they will consider Ah Chee in the second ruck role.

 

[DirtySandman]

Its harder these days to critique Masten these days, due to his unaccountable role now, we don't see him missing as many tackles because he is never near another player.

Interesting stat - 1 contested mark, in the last 6 years.......1.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

What final, did way play them in a final over here a couple years ago? Never happened!

True Champ! I think i lost my mind that night as well.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Vardy is more a true forward.He plays the role well.Some;and i dont know how much;of Darlings success this year can be put down to allowing Waterman to play the hard working role up field thus allowing JD [ Who looks more muscled up this year ] to play alongside JK.It has the domino effect of taking pressure off both of them as they share the load.Waterman out?? Seriously?? That said any rain would change that proposition.

 

[Feeling Groovy]

Simpson on Whateley this morning talked about our options:
- replace with Vardy
- take the “more traditional approach” and go with 1 ruck. He talked about how Lycett can ruck longer than Naitanui.

Sounded like he was genuinely considering the 1 ruck option.

I for one welcome our new 1 ruck strategy overlord.

I love the idea in theory but given Lycett's injury history, the fact he has rarely rucked all game so may not have the stamina to do so regularly etc and we are getting to the tail end of the season, I think they will take a more cautious path and bring Vardy in straight swap for NN. I think they would have real concerns about overtaxing any one of Lycett of Vardy given if we get another injury we are down to McInnes. Although, if its wet, they may have one ruck with someone else chop out for a week. But for the rest of the year, I think we will stick with two rucks.