Prediction Changes v GWS

[eagles rule]

I think Barrass going out is a bit of an acknowledgement that the defensive setup is out of whack. Basically 4 intercepting defenders (McGovern, Barrass, Yeo and Sheppard - who did it a few years ago when most of our defenders were injured) is a recipe for disaster when teams decide to run at us and not bomb into our forward line.

Barrass was out because he was a big liability as a lock down defender as a interceptor he excels he was too easily out bodied and slow on the leading Fwds ..
Magovern is better played at CHB were he can read the ball better and be the interceptor instead of just tailing his man around ,he struggles as a lock down defender also ..

 

[wce4premiership]

I'd almost rather Barrass was just rested and not played for EP, unless there was something specific they wanted him to work on and he needed game time to do it.

I still think there's no single bigger message than dropping Priddis. The midfield isn't working in its current setup, it's equal parts setup as it is personnel.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I'd almost rather Barrass was just rested and not played for EP, unless there was something specific they wanted him to work on and he needed game time to do it.

I still think there's no single bigger message than dropping Priddis. The midfield isn't working in its current setup, it's equal parts setup as it is personnel.

Well EP aren't playing this weekend.

 

[TOA.]

To be fair, even though I still think that Redden will be a good player for us eventually, it probably should have been Hutchings in Redden's spot and Redden pushing from East Perth from the get go.

Hutchings will have the same problem as Redden. He will be expected to have an impact off the bench and being played out of position and will be the first dropped when we have a bad loss.

 

[eagles rule]

Our selection philosophy is arse backwards - we focus on WAFL and demand young players meet super high standards before getting promoted; we should be focusing on the AFL and dropping players who consistently aren't meeting standards. You can justify it if the senior players have delivered a premiership or two, but hot with our current lot.

The problem is the serial offenders play good/ok at Home but are crap Away ..

So it's a pattern that is hard to break as they play 2 good games out of every 3 ..

 

[ziad]

Hutchings will have the same problem as Redden. He will be expected to have an impact off the bench and being played out of position and will be the first dropped when we have a bad loss.

except Huch actually contributes every opportunity he is given, not a star but his effort is not questioned.

 

[Mico89]

Playing younger players doesn't perform miracles, unless they are ready. Think Venables will get a call up after the bye sometime but from what I've heard he hasn't built up his tank enough yet. If we go on the senior players who didn't put in last week (numerous) not so sure we have that many in the 2s who deserve a call up?

Yes I get what you are saying but the likes of young players like Lamb and Partington need to be given a chance. There are to many old-timers in our side that are not as hungry for the ball like they once were. Players like Lecca, masto even pridda have all played there best footy.

 

[Special Agent Utah]

Same old shit.

I think quote from Simpson sums it up the best "The difference between our best and worst is a mile apart, That start's with our leaders"

Then we drop the same old scapegoats.


Ridiculous

 

[WCE Wizard]

I don't get it. We drop youth who do care in exchange for Lecras, Masten and co who could not give two s****

How the hell is Barrass out?!

Someone please explain.

 

[Brave Sir Robin]

Same old shit.

I think quote from Simpson sums it up the best "The difference between our best and worst is a mile apart, That start's with our leaders"

Then we drop the same old scapegoats.


Ridiculous

That's right. I can't see the sense in dropping the guys who are 15-22 in the pecking order at the moment, because what we have seen time and again is that if the team plays well, they contribute. When the team is off a whole, obviously they don't.

The problem is with the chemistry of our 'untouchable' players and until we fix that no amount of hedgeclipping will get us back on track.

 

[Chris_6678]

I think the fact this is a top of the ladder clash at home and the fact GWS are down with players it is a good time to flat track and get us to 7-3. I guess no WAFL This week doesn't help because whats the point of being omitted and not being made to play in the reserves? I think next week we will see Priddis "managed" and ditto Lecra for the GC trip.

 

[CursoryMercenary]

Very disappointed but not surprised with the changes. For the first time I truly wonder if Adam Simpson is the best man to lead this club forward.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

I told yous all this would be their changes

No you didn't.

Ins: Partington, McKenzie, Jetta, Hutchings, Hill, Petrie, Nelson
Outs: Welligham, Barrass, Cripps, Redden, Mutimer, McInnes, Butler

The Cripps-Jetta swap might not happen.

I think it's ironic that Simpson blasts our leaders publicly for failing to stand up then drops the younger guys. Go figure.

 

[hudson2006]

If the final emergencies end up as:

Mackenzie/Schofield/Butler, Jetta, Hill

It won't be so bad as Karpany gets a chance and we still have Duggan, Sheed and Nelson as developing youngsters.

Worst case scenario (emergencies wise):
Nelson, Karpany, Duggan
Then it really will be age of the dinosaurs (and not the cool ones, vanilla ones like Iguanodon and Allosaurus).

 

[sey666]

will be the first dropped when we have a bad loss.

Actually this was never a problem for Redden.

 

[Seluro]

I can see where these changes are coming from, panel probably feels we need to see what these combinations can do after a few solid weeks of WAFL before adopting a more youthful policy.

Mutes can go back and dominate for a week or two.
Barrass can work on his defensive side, has been costing us goals recently.
McInness can go back and keep the pressure on Drew.
Redden can get a touch.

Nelson in for WHam no-brainer.
Jetta won't play; I feel it's encouragement to let him know if he keeps building there's a spot.
Karps for mutes (this is my hope).
Hutchings comes in for Redden.

Toss a coin between Schoey and Ezy, but Schoey probably offers more flexibility.

My thoughts exactly. Though I would have preferred Partington had found his way into the side over Karpany. Having said that, Karps is probably better suited to the HFF role that's up for grabs.

 

[Biggie]

Riddle me this.

Why cant Priddis have a spell, Sheed more of a role in the guts and Partington/Karps given an opportunity on a HFF, small minutes in guts?

 

[liam123]

Anyone listen to longmuir on 91.3 fm this morning? I missed it

 

[sey666]

Riddle me this.

Why cant Priddis have a spell, Sheed more of a role in the guts and Partington/Karps given an opportunity on a HFF, small minutes in guts?

Because

Simpson has never dropped a player over 25 who has never been dropped.

#fact

 

[Spoon_Man]

Anyone listen to longmuir on 91.3 fm this morning? I missed it

Caught a bit of it.
Defended Darling quite sternly i reckon. Brushed off the suggestion of Darling to the midfield (who keeps thinking this would work btw?).

Defended Masto but admitted he wasn't good last week and he did "hurt us" numerous times. Said he was a quality guy too (like who ****ing cares??), which was was mixed in amongst some other superlatives.

There was more but i missed it...

Edit: here's the interview - http://www.sportfm.com.au/20170526_justin_longmuir.mp3

 

[RookiePick]

Riddle me this.

Why cant Priddis have a spell, Sheed more of a role in the guts and Partington/Karps given an opportunity on a HFF, small minutes in guts?

Because our decision makers err on the conservative side...every time.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Clearly our MC tried to "do a little bit too much" and that's the reason for their poor showing.

 

[Eaglemaniac]

Lets face it, the change had to be Redden and Priddis out of the team to fix this snail powered midfield and bring in Hutch (Priddis) and Parto (Redden) because Nelson will come in for Wellers. Any others changes are just distractions from the real problem and quite frankly are undeserved.
Mutes should have stayed in to rotate through the middle more with Parto and the others (Shuey, Sheed, Duggan, Mitchell, Cripps etc). The fact that our MC and coach wont do this just shows how much they're living in fantasyland with this list.

 

[Agent93]

I think quote from Simpson sums it up the best "The difference between our best and worst is a mile apart, That starts with our leaders"

Then we drop the same old scapegoats.

I think the onus is on the leaders to provide the platform for consistancy, dropping them would be incongruent with this. Removing Redden does achieve this, as there is a massive gulf between his best (which we've not seen at West Coast) and worst. The replacement in Hutchings is quite consistant, without the potential peaks.

Nelson for Wellingham was a given. The injury is just a convenience. Schofield for Barrass rewards WAFL form, whilst pointing out that Barrass has things he needs to work on (spoiling vs marking) and that he is not guaranteed a game.

The Petrie / McInnes situation confounds me. I don't see what the 10 year older player brings that the younger one hasn't in the past 2 weeks. Fraser's last WAFL game was statically far better than Petrie's, and his 2 AFL games were better than Petrie's one. In fairness, Petrie was injured. But why not hold the old guy to the same standards as the young one?

Who comes in for Mutimer? The options are Hill, Karpany, Jetta, and Mackenzie. On the face of it Hill is in the 22, but you're kidding yourself if three of those 4 weren't named because of what round it is. It seems an odd time to drop him as Karpany and Jetta were hardly tearing up the WAFL, Mackenzie seems an odd inclusion if Lobb is out (unless he comes in instead of Schofield or Petrie), and Hill didn't get a game last week. Mutimer won't get a WAFL game this week so whilst there's no compelling reason to include someone instead of him, there will also be no compelling reason to include him next week.

I'm pretty sure you'll see the 3 players who don't come in for Mutimer as the emergencies which leaves us with 3 useful changes and 2 odd ones which don't really 'send a message'.

 

[frenchconnection]

Big concern is that we have 3 more games at Etihad (in 6 weeks), and those are the games that a lot of senior players might struggle the most in, but on the other hand they'll probably look like superstars in our home games, so it's hard to see any of them being dropped.

To be fair and I know what you said was probably tongue in cheek, but generally our record at Etihad is not too bad - it's mainly the MCG where we have issues and go MIA!