List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Cuzz09]

Chess at least is getting games under his belt which is what he needed.

Hopefully he can step it up

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[Smotie2]

Islf we traded pick 3 and 23 for Warner and Sydney's first which could be 18 at this rate would Sydney go for it and would we?

 

[Big_Birdy]

Islf we traded pick 3 and 23 for Warner and Sydney's first which could be 18 at this rate would Sydney go for it and would we?

3 and 23 probably not enough for Warner on their own.

 

[twce13]

Islf we traded pick 3 and 23 for Warner and Sydney's first which could be 18 at this rate would Sydney go for it and would we?

Only if they throw gulden in to

 

[Rowan18]

3 and 23 probably not enough for Warner on their own.

I think 3 and 23 is around the mark. Usually it's one top 10 pick and another first for a top line mid. Given we're stumping up pick 3, it feels right the the second first rounder could be back a few spots to early second. If not, we'll have to trade 23 and pies 2nd (which I'm assuming we get from Hawks for TB along with Hawks R1) for a late first.

I'm not sure we'll get Warner though. The rumours are we'll trade pick 3 but still want 2 top 20 picks. That speaks to pick splitting and trading in B grade players. Getting Warner would clear us out of R1 and R2 in this draft.

 

[Big_Birdy]

I think 3 and 23 is around the mark. Usually it's one top 10 pick and another first for a top line mid. Given we're stumping up pick 3, it feels right the the second first rounder could be back a few spots to early second. If not, we'll have to trade 23 and pies 2nd (which I'm assuming we get from Hawks for TB along with Hawks R1) for a late first.

I'm not sure we'll get Warner though. The rumours are we'll trade pick 3 but still want 2 top 20 picks. That speaks to pick splitting and trading in B grade players. Getting Warner would clear us out of R1 and R2 in this draft.

Only if TB stays.

 

[shooshka]

Would be on brand for West Coast to split pick 3 and we miss out on all 8 of the decent players in the draft.

I’m not sure it really is on brand for us (taking a player with an obvious fault in the 2nd round is much more our thing).

Split picks I can remember:

2013 - Sheed (clear win, based on names in between)
2017, for 2018 1r - massive win
2021 - 12-14 (Chesser).. Sinn (no loss), Hobbs (miss, but not hugely so)
2022 - #2 for Ginbey + Hewett. Wardlaw (noting his injury issues pre draft) the ? Here… Sheezel sadly wasn’t on our board, same with GWS. GWS would have found a way to go from 3 to 1 without us.

Really only twice have we split - 2013 & 2022.


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[shooshka]

I think 3 and 23 is around the mark. Usually it's one top 10 pick and another first for a top line mid. Given we're stumping up pick 3, it feels right the the second first rounder could be back a few spots to early second. If not, we'll have to trade 23 and pies 2nd (which I'm assuming we get from Hawks for TB along with Hawks R1) for a late first.

I'm not sure we'll get Warner though. The rumours are we'll trade pick 3 but still want 2 top 20 picks. That speaks to pick splitting and trading in B grade players. Getting Warner would clear us out of R1 and R2 in this draft.

I would say it is unders for a player his age and showing what he is.

But add to that he is a high performing mid on an AFL average wage or thereabouts. In a team at the pointy end who will no doubt be under salary cap pressure.

TK 2.0 this year IMO. Regardless of any requested trade, Warners value to the swans will be so much higher than the highest trade offer. They will keep him.

If we are keen, then improve our 2025 draft hand for when he is OOC.


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[Byron_Clanger]

I’m not sure it really is on brand for us (taking a player with an obvious fault in the 2nd round is much more our thing).

Split picks I can remember:

2013 - Sheed (clear win, based on names in between)
2017, for 2018 1r - massive win
2021 - 12-14 (Chesser).. Sinn (no loss), Hobbs (miss, but not hugely so)
2022 - #2 for Ginbey + Hewett. Wardlaw (noting his injury issues pre draft) the ? Here… Sheezel sadly wasn’t on our board, same with GWS. GWS would have found a way to go from 3 to 1 without us.

Really only twice have we split - 2013 & 2022.


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I mean more so trading backwards in the draft. Traded back for Sheed, traded back for Chesser, traded back for Ginbey and Hewett.

In other news, Wreck it Ralph reckons Battle took LESS money to jump from the Saints to the Hawks...does that kill their Band 1 compo?

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Hunt was free

And like a LOT of names thrown up on BF; free can equate to mediocre!

 

[Jupes]

Would be on brand for West Coast to split pick 3 and we miss out on all 8 of the decent players in the draft.

this and us taking hinkley is my absolute nightmare scenario

 

[Eastern Rangers]

The problem is can Curtin actually play as an inside mid at AFL level? Does he have the pace / agility?

He's a third tall, preferably behind the ball where he has the game in front of him.

Draft Cody next year and pursue Dan if we're still short a body backward of centre.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I mean more so trading backwards in the draft. Traded back for Sheed, traded back for Chesser, traded back for Ginbey and Hewett.

In other news, Wreck it Ralph reckons Battle took LESS money to jump from the Saints to the Hawks...does that kill their Band 1 compo?

That is good news as band 2 feels more relevant for Battle. I am still sceptical that the AFL might manipulate the herbs and spices as St Blunders flagless stretch goes back to 1966.

 

[ziad]

He's a third tall, preferably behind the ball where he has the game in front of him.

Draft Cody next year and pursue Dan if we're still short a body backward of centre.

Sounds reasonable.

 

[ghostbat12]

The problem is can Curtin actually play as an inside mid at AFL level? Does he have the pace / agility?

The longer this goes on, the myth will only get larger. I have him penned in as J Cameron, McGovern and Dangermouse all in one body, cruelty caged by Adelaide. Free Curtin! end Slavery!

 

[ghostbat12]

Chess at least is getting games under his belt which is what he needed.

Hopefully he can step it up

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I just don’t get why Victorians can’t campaign to bring him home like we do with Dev.

Maybe we can trick Richmond for Bolton. Former first rounder, fit, Victorian, runs all day. Hawks pick plus Chesser should do. He is the saviour.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Surely everyone has seen enough of Curtin on the ball and around stoppages to dispell the notion he can't play mid.

Finds space in traffic like Pendles basketball background. Slick sidestep and can baulk around players like nobody's business.

Knocks on his midfield craft is production. Pretty standard for any midfielder that's winning their own ball going from Colts to SANFL league.

Crom fans are worrying over nothing. You can see the AFL talent there. Just stop trying to play him as a KPP. Or don't, and he can come home for a 3rd rounder next year.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

The longer this goes on, the myth will only get larger. I have him penned in as J Cameron, McGovern and Dangermouse all in one body, cruelty caged by Adelaide. Free Curtin! end Slavery!

I believe Monocle gave a good assessment that Curtin is more like Grant Birchall. Off the HBF and directing the play.

 

[briztoon]

Islf we traded pick 3 and 23 for Warner and Sydney's first which could be 18 at this rate would Sydney go for it and would we?

Sydney ain’t sending back a first or second round pick with Warner, if you’re only giving up 3 & 23.

 

[ghostbat12]

I believe Monocle gave a good assessment that Curtin is more like Grant Birchall. Off the HBF and directing the play.

Although my post was sarcasm, we need a Birchall type. Running off half back isn’t too much of an Adelaide issue, which makes it bizarre.

 

[ghostbat12]

Sydney ain’t sending back a first or second round pick with Warner, if you’re only giving up 3 & 23.

I doubt Sydney would go for that unless they are certain he is leaving next year and won’t be able to match.

 

[Bestbird]

On the Baker draft thread, Pick 3 for Baker and 16

 

[ziad]

I doubt Sydney would go for that unless they are certain he is leaving next year and won’t be able to match.

You are not getting up my false hopes are you?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

While Tigers are talking tough on Rioli, many would say pick 6 in itself is overs. Tigers will ask for more.

What is more? The Tigers should look at the Doggies R1 that Suns own which is pick 12. Not that Rioli is worth more than 6 but the Tigers be given the chance to buy it off the Suns. Suns need points this year and to move picks into next year. Suns likely to get Crow's F1 for Lukosius (not saying it is just this, only that Suns have said Lukosius trade must include a F1). I am sure the Norf 2nd PP which is currently pick 20 and owned by the Suns would deliver a F1 for them as well.

Pick 12 is worth 1,268 points. Tigers hold their own R2, Freo's R2, their own R3, our R3, Freo's R3 and a possible FA compensation say band 4 for Graham at start of R3. That is over 3,000 points which could used. Obviously not all and Tigers could agree to be the points mule additional picks into the draft for Suns to do on the night.

 

[bzparkes]

On the Baker draft thread, Pick 3 for Baker and 16

At least other Richmond supporters have called it out for being stupid.