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AFLW 2024 - Round 2 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
You trying to emulate Cro-mo just isn’t working. Well for me anyway.Yeah, sure.
If you take trite throwaway lines as gospel.
Were you expecting improvement from our 33 year olds because Neil said so?
Actually real champions have the utmost confidence in what they do. They do it their way and have belief that they will prevail.
It is the lesser players who constantly doubt themselves, tinker with techniques, make modifications and constantly seek the 'perfect' technique, that the real pros have realised long ago doesn't exist.
I don't think a handful of games does enough.seriously disagree. Crows have too many quality youngsters on their list to only be giving 2 of them 12 games and 0 to the others. Need to share the load around and develop as many of these youngsters on our list. there is some serious quality there.
This is the point I have issue with.As you can see the majority of these players played over 15 games in their first seasons. I realise the majority of the teams that drafted these players were at the bottom of the ladder and had easier sides to break into - but the majority of these players are superstars. We need to get games into Crouch... He could be something special....
This is the point I have issue with.
The Shirley Lovers Society have always trotted this one out when anyone on here has a crack at the lack of youngsters in the team.
Effectively it means that only bad teams can produce good players. Good teams can't.
Ahh.. but the fun & games begin when Sando's idea of a "depth player" doesn't match up with BigFooty's idea of a "depth player". The reality is that Martin & Riley are only depth players - but try telling that to their obsessive supporters here on BigFooty. It's like kicking over a hornets' nest.I think there is a fine line between fast-tracking players and gifting rookies games. We need to avoid the latter.
If there is space I am sure Sando will develop a structure to ensure young talent gets a string of games. I think last year Sando's best 22 approach was to consolidate and stabilize the playing group. I don't think we will see players in for only 3 games unless Sando considers them purely depth players.
Ahh.. but the fun & games begin when Sando's idea of a "depth player" doesn't match up with BigFooty's idea of a "depth player". The reality is that Martin & Riley are only depth players - but try telling that to their obsessive supporters here on BigFooty. It's like kicking over a hornets' nest.
Ahh.. but the fun & games begin when Sando's idea of a "depth player" doesn't match up with BigFooty's idea of a "depth player". The reality is that Martin & Riley are only depth players - but try telling that to their obsessive supporters here on BigFooty. It's like kicking over a hornets' nest.
Oh, I freely admit to being obsessive. I have my favourites and my whipping boys, just like everyone else around here... and those who I just think are flat out over-rated (which includes Martin & Riley).Being obsessive is what BF is all about.
You yourself betray obsessive qualities. Martin was one of our best on Saturday and is on track for game time this year. Riley looks like an AFL quality player to me. If he doesn't make it with the Crows, my money would be on him to succeed elsewhere. I'm not holding myself up as being a perfect judge. I didn't think Tex had the application and had serious doubts about Danger.![]()
Ahh.. but the fun & games begin when Sando's idea of a "depth player" doesn't match up with BigFooty's idea of a "depth player". The reality is that Martin & Riley are only depth players - but try telling that to their obsessive supporters here on BigFooty. It's like kicking over a hornets' nest.
I did. I was wrong, particularly with my comments about Wright. I still think Petrenko has deficiencies in his game which are likely to be career limiting - but at the moment he's filling a unique position in our team, which ideally suits his abilities.I remember when you said Wright was a list clogger and Petrenko wouldn't make it.
I've never said that they aren't AFL quality. What I have consistently said is that they are so far down our pecking order that they won't ever get the chance to become best 22 players.You were wrong then tooRiley is easily AFL quality and this is Martin's year.
Ahh.. but the fun & games begin when Sando's idea of a "depth player" doesn't match up with BigFooty's idea of a "depth player". The reality is that Martin & Riley are only depth players - but try telling that to their obsessive supporters here on BigFooty. It's like kicking over a hornets' nest.
Just haven't seen what everyone else sees. I have seen all of his games. Was almost invisible in his games in 2011. Last year played 5 games - however you can't count the Sydney game and Freo games as he was a sub and played less than 20% of each game. The other three games were against sub standard midfields in Gold Coast / Melbourne / Essendon and I think he was serviceable.
From what I have seen I like the fact he is tough and can win his own footy. Gets a heap of contested possessions and is tough.
I think in our current midfield we have plenty of ballwinners (Thommo/Danger/Wright/Sloane/Crouch). I don't think he gets a game ahead of any of those players. He reminds me of a poor mans 2011 Dangerfield. Can win the hardball, but doesn't get enough uncontested footy to hurt the opposition. I think that in 2012 we have plenty of ballwinning ability in our midfield and therefore Lyons (and his pace and quality disposal) should get the nod ahead of him.
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** Now, if he could reinvent himself as a small forward with aggressive tackling and strong defensive skills, then maybe - just maybe - he might be able to take Petrenko's position. Petrenko's disposal is ordinary at best and tends towards spectacularly awful when kicking for goal. This makes his position vulnerable in my eyes. That said, his manic defensive pressure and tackling ensures his regular selection every week. If Martin can match Petrenko's manic defence, with better disposal than Pup, he might, just maybe, find a way into the best 22.
Totally agree Vader.
Petrenko's fanatical tackling is very very good when he's 100% fit and in form. However his kicking is not at AFL and it turns to U'9's level as he almost physically shits himself while shooting for goal.
Martin has very good disposal and is a very reliable set shot at goal because unlike Petrenko he has a good kicking action. If he could apply the same physical pressure that Pets does, then I'd definitely rather see him play that role because he would then have more weapons than Petrenko.
You trying to emulate Cro-mo just isn’t working. Well for me anyway.
The Shirley Lovers Society
Totally agree Vader.
Petrenko's fanatical tackling is very very good when he's 100% fit and in form. However his kicking is not at AFL and it turns to U'9's level as he almost physically shits himself while shooting for goal.
Martin has very good disposal and is a very reliable set shot at goal because unlike Petrenko he has a good kicking action. If he could apply the same physical pressure that Pets does, then I'd definitely rather see him play that role because he would then have more weapons than Petrenko.