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Cue the Pies supporters, “but it’s not his job to take contested marks” calls. The worst response ever.
Cue the Pies supporters, “but it’s not his job to take contested marks” calls. The worst response ever.
And yet still is a massive upgrade to Sam WalshHe’s a slight upgrade on Zac Fisher.
Slight.
It's all about choosing the 15 minute burst that best suits your narrative to support your opinion.All awards are rubbish?
Awards have limitations. They could never serve as the only basis for assessment. They favour mods strongly in the current game because the modern game is built around miss to a stronger level that the past etc etc.
But to say they don’t form part of your consideration to me means you disregard a lot of expert information that’s really important. A players cv with its Brownlow votes, AFLCA and PA aseeswments, AAs, Norm Smiths, B&F results etc etc has to be part of the assessment.
Look at the list of Brownlow winners since 2000 and tell me it doesn’t contain a list of midfield superstars in the main. Look a votes per game over a career and find me a mid of serious consequence who isn’t high on the list.
I don’t buy your personal assessments, not considering a massive body of expert opinion that leads to these awards, would sit on strong ground.
Nick actually had both more clearances and more contested possessions than Bont this year. Not bad for his first year as a full time mid.It’s just an award now that’s given to the player that the umpires see the most. Yeah cool, he gets 40 possessions, but they’re not damaging. Most of his touches are accumulated from receiving an easy pass from a teammate, after he sprints into space. Give me 20-25 touches by the Bont or Cripps any day of the week.
This is great. And shows why GOAT is a definite possibility. Attempts to talk him down get him as low as a Joel Selwood career. Or in other words the poster is expecting him to go well above Joel - a champion of the game.Poor Nick is destined just to be like joel selwood. Nice lifetime achievements, always someone better when it comes to the brownlow.
Joel selwood would never be considered the GOAT.
He will get close to Selwood.This is great. And shows why GOAT is a definite possibility. Attempts to talk him down get him as low as a Joel Selwood career. Or in other words the poster is expecting him to go well above Joel - a champion of the game.
You’ve calmed down from yesterday I see ?Poor Nick is destined just to be like joel selwood. Nice lifetime achievements, always someone better when it comes to the brownlow.
Joel selwood would never be considered the GOAT.
Kenny called and told me to relax, said he had our backYou’ve calmed down from yesterday I see ?
It's surprising how many different awards McRae is able to rig.Wtf Daics by 9 votes, what a bath View attachment 2094036
It's surprising how many different awards McRae is able to rig.
Which says all you need to know about Champion Data, as many of us have said for a long, long time.Although Fly couldn't influence Champion's Data to make their all Australian team.
Which says all you need to know about Champion Data, as many of us have said for a long, long time.
Googled it. Couldn't find it - only last year's and one from July this year - Nick was in both of them.Although Fly couldn't influence Champion's Data to make their all Australian team.
It’s just an award now that’s given to the player that the umpires see the most. Yeah cool, he gets 40 possessions, but they’re not damaging. Most of his touches are accumulated from receiving an easy pass from a teammate, after he sprints into space. Give me 20-25 touches by the Bont or Cripps any day of the week.
I've used Champion Data Player Ratings?But you've used it multiple over the years Fadge to support your arguments. You can't pick and choose when it suits you.