Preview R14: Changes vs. Sydney Swans

[Mutineer]

Mutineer thinks ROB is an absolute gun ruckman..

But he also thinks laird, crouch, mchenry, murphy and keays are guns too.. and he defends this lot endlessly.

So Mutineers opinion really shouldnt be taken seriously.

Strawnie, before he got injured, showed more against the tigers on Thursday than that unco buffoon ROB has shown all year..

Bullshit!!!!

ROB's a level above Strachan and a very competitive AFL ruck with an amazing tank.

Strachan was tonguing it even as early as the 2nd quarter and long before he got injured.

 

[rocket18]

Bullshit!!!!

ROB's a level above Strachan and a very competitive AFL ruck with an amazing tank.

Strachan was tonguing it even as early as the 2nd quarter and long before he got injured.

That is ROB's one wood - able to run move around the ground for the entire game.

Get past that and he really has no strings to his bow.

No one is suggesting Strawnie will be a top line AFL ruck, it is more that ROB is next to useless apart from his tank.

Strawnie has played stuff all AFL, I'd like to give him a decent run of games to see if he can improve.

 

[CrowBloke]

Well our choices are a guy who brings no leadership at all, makes terrible decisions, can't mark the ball, struggles to kick and handball or the guy who can't ruck at all and has little positive or negative influence

Most people have noticed that ROB's a poor kick, but it was only on the weekend when I saw a short clip from the SANFL on TV that I reckon I know why. The footage was in close-up and side-on.
It's his action and timing. Seriously.
Good kicks of the ball, especially on the run, have a big backlift behind of their kicking foot


and are nearly upright on ball-impact-on-foot which helps to drive the ball with force from kicking-foot-momentum and transfer of body weight. After impact the player pushes his/her off-leg into the ground to drive the kicking leg through the ball and up.
Blighty was not a big man (182cms, 89Kgs) but was a magnificent kick, especially the torp. His winning kick-after-the-Siren that sank Carlton in 1976 sailed through well above the goalposts and is touted as the best long kick-for-goal, ever. It was all technique and timing.
After impact, good kicks of the ball are in the air, off the ground and land on their kicking foot then the other.
Here's an example, of many:

Compare that to the ROB ugly-kick-photo, below.
ROB's R foot hardly goes back at all. No backlift = no kick-power going through the ball.
He hunches over, plants his L foot and leans backward as he kicks so that his upper body weight leaning backward pushes his R foot forward to kick. There's no legspeed in the kick and no transfer of body weight, with very little follow-through.


That's why he can barely kick the ball 35-40 metres

That leaning backward is the reason why ROB slipped back and shanked that kick late in the AO game in the dying seconds (tie vs. Brisbane?). Too much weight behind his Centre of Gravity (and greasy deck).
Here's another example-in-action:

The weight-on-the-back-foot is also often a problem with soccer players who often blast shots at goal high, because they are leaning back.
All that brings me back to Nicks.
A decent (thorough) Coach would promote and utilise skill-sharing; the Crows have some very good kickers of the ball; Dawson/Tex/Fogarty come to mind.
Surely they could be used behind-the-scenes to show ROB how to kick?
On the topic, Tex could easily show the group (especially Keays) how to kick with their off-foot.

 

[Milo Cyrus]

why would Rankine come back through the 2s?

And of course Murray has a stint in the SANFL after an ACL. that’s smart management

Your ins and outs are spot on though. Team instantly looks more exciting.

Why? We are Adelaide.

I think Murray has already played one too many in the B's. Nothing I've seen Adelaide do lately that could be labelled smart. Fingers are crossed that we pull out the mathematically possible.
But I fear we have more chance of seeing a unicorn.

 

[BRL121]

ROB is knock-kneed. I guess he will always be a dud kick. He has improved his goalkicking though, for what that's worth.

 

[Milo Cyrus]

Most people have noticed that ROB's a poor kick, but it was only on the weekend when I saw a short clip from the SANFL on TV that I reckon I know why. The footage was in close-up and side-on.
It's his action and timing. Seriously.
Good kicks of the ball, especially on the run, have a big backlift behind of their kicking foot
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and are nearly upright on ball-impact-on-foot which helps to drive the ball with force from kicking-foot-momentum and transfer of body weight. After impact the player pushes his/her off-leg into the ground to drive the kicking leg through the ball and up.
Blighty was not a big man (182cms, 89Kgs) but was a magnificent kick, especially the torp. His winning kick-after-the-Siren that sank Carlton in 1976 sailed through well above the goalposts and is touted as the best long kick-for-goal, ever. It was all technique and timing.
After impact, good kicks of the ball are in the air, off the ground and land on their kicking foot then the other.
Here's an example, of many:
View attachment 2015847
Compare that to the ROB ugly-kick-photo, below.
ROB's R foot hardly goes back at all. No backlift = no kick-power going through the ball.
He hunches over, plants his L foot and leans backward as he kicks so that his upper body weight leaning backward pushes his R foot forward to kick. There's no legspeed in the kick and no transfer of body weight, with very little follow-through.
View attachment 2015939

That's why he can barely kick the ball 35-40 metres

That leaning backward is the reason why ROB slipped back and shanked that kick late in the AO game in the dying seconds (tie vs. Brisbane?). Too much weight behind his Centre of Gravity (and greasy deck).
Here's another example-in-action:

The weight-on-the-back-foot is also often a problem with soccer players who often blast shots at goal high, because they are leaning back.
All that brings me back to Nicks.
A decent (thorough) Coach would promote and utilise skill-sharing; the Crows have some very good kickers of the ball; Dawson/Tex/Fogarty come to mind.
Surely they could be used behind-the-scenes to show ROB how to kick?
On the topic, Tex could easily show the group (especially Keays) how to kick with their off-foot.

Don't start on his marking...

 

[VKCrow]

Most people have noticed that ROB's a poor kick, but it was only on the weekend when I saw a short clip from the SANFL on TV that I reckon I know why. The footage was in close-up and side-on.
It's his action and timing. Seriously.
Good kicks of the ball, especially on the run, have a big backlift behind of their kicking foot
View attachment 2015931

and are nearly upright on ball-impact-on-foot which helps to drive the ball with force from kicking-foot-momentum and transfer of body weight. After impact the player pushes his/her off-leg into the ground to drive the kicking leg through the ball and up.
Blighty was not a big man (182cms, 89Kgs) but was a magnificent kick, especially the torp. His winning kick-after-the-Siren that sank Carlton in 1976 sailed through well above the goalposts and is touted as the best long kick-for-goal, ever. It was all technique and timing.
After impact, good kicks of the ball are in the air, off the ground and land on their kicking foot then the other.
Here's an example, of many:
View attachment 2015847
Compare that to the ROB ugly-kick-photo, below.
ROB's R foot hardly goes back at all. No backlift = no kick-power going through the ball.
He hunches over, plants his L foot and leans backward as he kicks so that his upper body weight leaning backward pushes his R foot forward to kick. There's no legspeed in the kick and no transfer of body weight, with very little follow-through.
View attachment 2015939

That's why he can barely kick the ball 35-40 metres

That leaning backward is the reason why ROB slipped back and shanked that kick late in the AO game in the dying seconds (tie vs. Brisbane?). Too much weight behind his Centre of Gravity (and greasy deck).
Here's another example-in-action:

The weight-on-the-back-foot is also often a problem with soccer players who often blast shots at goal high, because they are leaning back.
All that brings me back to Nicks.
A decent (thorough) Coach would promote and utilise skill-sharing; the Crows have some very good kickers of the ball; Dawson/Tex/Fogarty come to mind.
Surely they could be used behind-the-scenes to show ROB how to kick?
On the topic, Tex could easily show the group (especially Keays) how to kick with their off-foot.

Sometimes, you just can’t teach this stuff. It’s innate for some

 

[CrowBloke]

You think the primary focus for the remainder of the year is winning?

Seriously?

Nicks' primary focus, yes. He's in job-preserving/perpetuating mode; has been since start 2023, maybe earlier.

 

[Mutineer]

That is ROB's one wood - able to run move around the ground for the entire game.

Get past that and he really has no strings to his bow.

No one is suggesting Strawnie will be a top line AFL ruck, it is more that ROB is next to useless apart from his tank.

Strawnie has played stuff all AFL, I'd like to give him a decent run of games to see if he can improve.

If that happens get set to be disappointed.

 

[CrowBloke]

Sometimes, you just can’t teach this stuff. It’s innate for some

Dunno.
No player is perfect and the best of them seek always to get better.
ROB's kicking is awful and he'd know it.
Maybe you're right and he works on it but just doesn't get it.

It'd be less of a problem if his around-the-ground work, especially marking, was better.

 

[Faaarrk]

Are we throwing news like this out there to calm any flack the club had this week. Big risk imho considering a bye coming up and playing him if not fully fit.

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It would be classic Crows to bring him back going for a win and end up tearing the hammy big time meaning Rankine would need 6 weeks off. Not that it matters to this season but as a young player all you want to do is play footy.

 

[Crow-eater]

 

[1970crow]

Why? We are Adelaide.

I think Murray has already played one too many in the B's. Nothing I've seen Adelaide do lately that could be labelled smart. Fingers are crossed that we pull out the mathematically possible.
But I fear we have more chance of seeing a unicorn.

Surely nothing wrong with a couple of cobweb removers after an ACL layoff.

 

[fuic08]

Going all in even with the season over

 

[1970crow]

If that happens get set to be disappointed.

Why would anyone be disappointed? Playing Strachan doesn’t cost us a flag, if anything, it might wake up our list management group to do something about our lack of a developing ruck.

You shouldn’t get so emotionally invested in our mediocre fringe types.

 

[jackster83]

Going all in even with the season over

Still a mathematical chance. Nearly knocked off a powerful side in Richmond so we've got the momentum of a runaway freight train.

 

[1970crow]

Still a mathematical chance. Nearly knocked off a powerful side in Richmond so we've got the momentum of a runaway freight train.

When we destroyed eagles by 99 points, they were just about the form side of the comp. We totally destroyed their confidence, they’re now a shell of the side that turned up to play us.

 

[BACCS]

Going all in even with the season over

Nick Murray has been near BOG in his two sanfl games and is way above that level, no point playing him there anymore.

Rankine will be 4 weeks by the time the Sydney game comes around, that’s conservative for a standard hammy and he was training fully last Friday.

Sounds like Cook was a very minor knee knock at the end of training.

Tex maybe you could manage a bit longer, but if he’s ready then I can’t imagine he’ll want to sit out a game against the top ranked side with the team struggling. I think he would’ve played against Richmond if the game was Sunday.

 

[Crow till I die]

Ins: Murray, Taylor, Cook, Rob, Tex, Rankine
Out: Berry, McHenry, Smith, Strachan, Burgess, Murphy

Tell me any of this doesn’t make sense

Rankine (our best player)...only because he is just barely over a hammy. The season is shot so why risk him when another week might be prudent

 

[BACCS]

Seeing Nick Murray come back after an ACL and be genuinely above the SANFL standard is just a further glimpse into the elite player he can become at AFL level. We got half a season of it in 2023, but that’s just the beginning and there’s further levels he can get to imo, AA quality.

 

[BACCS]

Rankine (our best player)...only because he is just barely over a hammy. The season is shot so why risk him when another week might be prudent

Rankine came back from the same injury last year after the same recovery timeframe, why is this time any different? Burgess is very experienced and the best off field person we have, one part of the club I can trust to get things right.

 

[fuic08]

Nick Murray has been near BOG in his two sanfl games and is way above that level, no point playing him there anymore.

Rankine will be 4 weeks by the time the Sydney game comes around, that’s conservative for a standard hammy and he was training fully last Friday.

Sounds like Cook was a very minor knee knock at the end of training.

Tex maybe you could manage a bit longer, but if he’s ready then I can’t imagine he’ll want to sit out a game against the top ranked side with the team struggling. I think he would’ve played against Richmond if the game was Sunday.

I'm ok with Murray coming back in, only slight concern with match fitness but happy for him to get that in the AFL

I don't see playing Rankine as a must when we have the bye coming up.

Tex, who knows really, has looked hampered all year. Can't see him going around again.

 

[Crow till I die]

Rankine came back from the same injury last year after the same recovery timeframe, why is this time any different? Burgess is very experienced and the best off field person we have, one part of the club I can trust to get things right.

We needed him then and took the risk. This time why risk him. I 'd rather they gave him another week just to be absolutely sure personally

 

[daniel_4tw]

If they want to go full strength to try and knock off Sydney, fine. As long as they accept when we lose that the season is over and change tactics after the bye.

 

[BACCS]

I'm ok with Murray coming back in, only slight concern with match fitness but happy for him to get that in the AFL

I don't see playing Rankine as a must when we have the bye coming up.

Tex, who knows really, has looked hampered all year. Can't see him going around again.

Why would you rest Rankine just because of a bye? Burgess is elite in the field, he wouldn’t risk it if there’s any increased chance of reinjury.