Preview Rnd 4 - Carlton v GC Sunday 14th April 2.40PM @ Metricon Stadium - Final Team - Post #1332

[Robbo's my hero]

Nah I’m sure. While watching love he pulled out of contests and handball when he was under pressure as he looked scared to take possession. I’ll watch the replay to confirm. I couldn’t care less how many scoring plays he was involved in. He looked soft in the last quarter.

Yes, ignore the good stuff. Suits the agenda.

 

[Soapy V]

Emojis don't convince people of anything

Interesting assumption. Not trying to convince anyone of anything

Just stunned at how ridiculous the comment was

 

[Arr0w]

Of course it is, finishing positions this year quantify the value of the deal. And yes I've heard the lines about where we rated him, we were going to trade it anyway etc.

We talking draft pick points? Again, has nothing to do with it

What you have to consider is how Stocker would have rated against the draftees this year

 

[TooBlue14]

Yes, ignore the good stuff. Suits the agenda.

I don’t have an agenda. Read my first post on this discussion. I said he had some great moments. I started by defending a post about Murphy. Move on. He’s pulling out of the tough stuff. Most on here would agree.

 

[Blue and Blue]

Of course it is, finishing positions this year quantify the value of the deal. And yes I've heard the lines about where we rated him, we were going to trade it anyway etc.

It doesnt work like that now and never did. The value of the deal is Stocker......Period.
Every player in every trade and draft is a risk and doesnt have to be quantified or justified.

 

[Robbo's my hero]

I don’t have an agenda. Read my first post on this discussion. I said he had some great moments. I started by defending a post about Murphy. Move on. He’s pulling out of the tough stuff. Most on here would agree.

So I have to bow to your claim of the majority view. You’re talking rubbish. Now I’m happy to move on.

 

[Doro]

We talking draft pick points? Again, has nothing to do with it

What you have to consider is how Stocker would have rated against the draftees this year

Yes, and we now the Carlton views on his value. I also consider the industry valuation as important.

 

[Soapy V]

We talking draft pick points? Again, has nothing to do with it

What you have to consider is how Stocker would have rated against the draftees this year

Don’t bother Arr0w. If people really believe we need to win games this year to justify the Stocker trade they are in la la land

 

[Doro]

It doesnt work like that now and never did. The value of the deal is Stocker......Period.
Every player in every trade and draft is a risk and doesnt have to be quantified or justified.

If you swap first rounders the value of the deal is tied to finishing positions.

 

[Arr0w]

Yes, and we now the Carlton views on his value. I also consider the industry valuation as important.

Industry value without considering supply and demand is flawed

No one will know the "win/loss" of this trade for at least 4 years. Stocker + player x versus player y

Anything else is just a p1ssing contest

 

[norway blue]

They are some strong ins. Four players, if they perform on the day will help our cause tremendously.

Hope you are correct 45 .


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[Soapy V]

No it isn't. The value of a pick next year is tied to it. How Stocker comes along makes no difference.

Plus there is a lot to play out and we wanted Stocker and got a young player a year earlier. So many factors yet we have to win to “justify” the deal? Amazing

 

[Aphrodite]

Stay on topic thanks all.

Enough of playing the man.


Zero tolerance.

 

[SammaGilberto]

gobluesforsunday casboulttokicksix

 

[Doro]

Industry value without considering supply and demand is flawed

No one will know the "win/loss" of this trade for at least 4 years. Stocker + player x versus player y

Anything else is just a p1ssing contest

We rolled the dice, if we finish bottom 2 we likely get unders. Draft picks come and go every year, we don't need to win every trade.

 

[ESKIE]

All good and well...Nice ins & more too come

However can we just get a few wins

 

[gandaal]

Someone tell Bolton there's no point tanking this year. We really dont need to play Casboult if Curnow is back.

 

[Arr0w]

We rolled the dice, if we finish bottom 2 we likely get unders. Draft picks come and go every year, we don't need to win every trade.

No draftee by the name of unders

Seriously though, this is like one of those draft redo threads, where everyone thinks in the now

Ratings stabilize after 4 -5 years

 

[Soapy V]

All good and well...Nice ins & more too come

However can we just get a few wins

We’ve been better than people think Eskie. I like this side this week. Right in it

 

[azlou]

Plus there is a lot to play out and we wanted Stocker and got a young player a year earlier. So many factors yet we have to win to “justify” the deal? Amazing

The geniuses of the sos trades is that he offers a win to get what he wants great deal maker an offer you can’t refuse but he still wins

 

[Stamos]

Can we please just ****ing win. Stop all the bullshit for a week at least.

 

[Blue and Blue]

Someone tell Bolton there's no point tanking this year. We really dont need to play Casboult if Curnow is back.

A bit of respect goes a long way. Something worth thinking about.

 

[Soapy V]

Can we please just ******* win. Stop all the bullshit for a week at least.

......but it’s only Gold Coast

 

[pinot]

We're going to get spanked the players won't improve ball movement overnight. If the players really want Bolton to continue coaching they will win it for him in a scrappy affair this is what I am predicting - otherwise my fears are warranted in they have been indoctrinated incorrectly and need new ideas albeit perhaps 12 months late.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Newman, Murphy and Casboult need to deliver more. Last week both Newman and Murph had 20+ disposals yet their efficiency was 55% and 59% respectively. Cas had 12 disposals at 58%.

Yes there were worse players but these guys are meant to be seniors and leading the way.

Suns have been playing well so far and usually they start the season well too. They're coming off a couple of close wins and their only loss was by a point.

So despite losing May and Lynch, they are showing good signs. It's about time we step up now.