Autopsy Roast & Toast v Carlton & Changes for Fremantle

[jesterx]

A 10-goal loss to Carlton. Yet when they were collecting and we were winning flags, the biggest we won by was 43 points.

I will never accept a coach saying “we don’t win by 10 goals” ever again. The next time we’re good, I want us to crush teams without hesitation like they crush us. It’s so unbelievably frustrating.

Yes but we only lost by 61 Geelong lost by 63

 

[Muddiemoose]

Kosi had another good game as 2nd ruck. 12 disposals, 4 marks (3 contested), 2 goals, 2 goal assists.

Now to get a look at.him alongside Balta and Lunch....

Yeah he’s been solid the last two weeks

Probably fair value for what we paid for him on right now, but nothings saying he can’t build on this form

Seems like he’s the type who needs to get one good touch early in the game and he just builds off it and will keep playing with the flair for the rest of the game

 

[tropicaltiger]

Was disappointed with Vlastuin’s composure in 3rd quarter. Panic kicks to half back to no one and then punching a ball straight to Blues player who called

I truly believe that this is the only thing holding him back from being a regular all Australian....every game he seems to be a slip over, give away a stupid free kick or make some absolute howler. still love him though, he has saved our bacon many many many times with sterling efforts.

 

[Cam Payner]

newman coming back to the club was just jobs for mates from benny gale

hawkers have gone upwards since newman left

Coaching like he played - soft & unaccountable stat padding....no wonder Short is never dropped...his spiritual successor in the side...

 

[_RT_]

The result was pretty much as expected heading in. We had a crack for as long as we could but just couldn't go with Carlton when they ramped up their game after half time. Regardless of the missed touched call, when they went full throttle we were found wanting.

I liked the performances of Miller and Blight down back, they kept Curnow & McKay to a combined 4.2 for the day when Carlton piled on 20.11 for the game. With Blight being able to come in and look comfortable, we can revert back to putting Balta forward, who kicked 3 goals from 8 disposals and worked well enough in partnership with Koschitzke to give us something to work with moving forward, especially when we get Lynch back in a few weeks.

Hopper & Taranto are clearly the foundation we will build our midfield around moving forward, but it's clear that we need some better ball users around them so that when they do win the ball at the contest and feed it out we can actually hurt teams with the ball use.

The draft is going to be extremely important for us and we've all but sewn up a top 3 pick and we've currently got 3 picks inside the first 2 rounds. We should give ourselves the injection of young talent that we really need.

 

[Groupie_]

advance Richmond fair !

 

[Danog]

Taranto, Hopper, Blight, Miller, Rioli, Kozi, Balta and Nank were good.

Graham, Short, Mansell and Bolton were pedestrians.

We won the free count for the second time this year, and I can't complain too much about the umpires, but they changed the momentum of the game along with Graham's 3 turnovers.

Blight's game was the highlight for me, and combined with Miller, they were magnificent against McKay and Curnow. These two missed their weekly allotment of 6-7 frees or non marks, and if this was a game against another top 8 side, they might have lost the game.

Graham is gone, and if Bolton wants out then lets grab some high draft picks now. Can't rebuild the side with a show pony - would rather hungry youngsters. If Baker wants out - I would understand, but NO WAY do we move on Rioli. Would have been a 100 point smashing without him.

Need to cash in and grab draft picks in the next 2 years - but we will be better with players returning from injury.

Out - Graham, Mansell, Dusty (managed)
In - Green, Gray, Prestia

Mansell was not a passenger. We need a 2nd small forward to help him out. He was the only one applying pressure in there. Campbell was horrible today.

 

[captain blood 17]

Dusty looks checked out. Doubts he re-signs at the end of the season.

Went off with a back injury early in the third. Was clearly in discomfort.

 

[Groupie_]

any coterie members here want to get rid of yze ?

 

[archibald]

Short and Graham need to be punted. For senior players they add zero leadership or composure. They are also just not very good footballers now the scaffolding has crumbled.

Also can Bolton just take the first option for once for ****s sake. He’s having a really poor year.

 

[Cam Payner]

Baker is good and tries hard but we shouldn’t overpay to keep him

Just hope WC aren't thinking the same way....lucky their match started during ours so their list managers probably weren't watching...

 

[tigs2010]

We’re screwed without them. Only reason why we lost by 60 points and not 100 points

Going to be super important in this rebuild. Can't chuck 3 x 18yo in the middle and say good luck

 

[tigs2010]

Just hope WC aren't thinking the same way....lucky their match started during ours so they probably weren't watching...

Unfortunately I think they record the games these days

 

[Black Saab]

how good is morning fresh

Yeah come on!!

 

[Groupie_]

I think they want to fulfill a few more woke agendas before they get to football matters

 

[Chunky09]

Didn’t get to see the game but looked like we kept with them for a half then got blitzed.
How did blight go?

 

[Jimmybob]

Didn’t get to see the game but looked like we kept with them for a half then got blitzed.
How did blight go?

Did really well. One of our best imo

 

[Coach_Required]

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Ahhh back when only 20k of them turned up to matches.
The rest of them weren't even interested in footy back then. Bunch of rock spiders.

 

[Groupie_]

who else saw louie trying not to break out in laughter when dusty went off injured

 

[Vassp]

Once again our midfield was shit on and was the difference.

Dusty past it, should think about giving it up. Bolton is elsewhere and mind not on the game.
Love our defense, getting better every day.

taranto biggest spud user of the footy, Please give me the inside 50 disposal stats and everything else,
I cant wait to see the sats you guys bring up. His only great contribution is he gets the ball a lot and sometimes kicks a goal while pressing up forwards.
Useless disposer of the ball and we realy is a nothing player as a mid.
Then we wonder why carlton ran over the top of us, Because they have mids that can use the footy.

 

[banzai]

Watched a little bit.

About what I expected. This year is just an extended preseason as far as I'm concerned.

All the chickens are coming home to roost for our dim witted drafting strategy post '19. Blind freddy could see we needed a Jack replacement. Now we're ****ed, needing a jack and Lynch replacement. That's inexcusable to end up like this.

Maybe, the injuries probably get us pick 1 now as we would have won a few more earlier in the season. We could go ultra aggressive if Baker and Rioli want to leave. Trade Bolton, he wont offer anythng to a rebuilding team. It would prob guarantee pick 1 the next 2 years as well.

Could have 3 pick 1s in a row + the 5 extra 1st rounders for the players we trade. It would mean 6-7 years until we play finals again, but that could easily happen anyway. Possible to let Balta go for pick 2 compo next season as well. He will be 30+ by the time we are ready.

The next 2 years will be awful whatever we do. We are nearly through 1 bad year, id go all in with the rebuild now.

 

[Black Saab]

Yeah he’s been solid the last two weeks

Probably fair value for what we paid for him on right now, but nothings saying he can’t build on this form

Seems like he’s the type who needs to get one good touch early in the game and he just builds off it and will keep playing with the flair for the rest of the game

Looks like he grows in confidence with good involvment in the game whether that be kicking a goal or getting up the ground and taking a strong mark.

 

[guruisatiger]

Out- martin ( retired, )- broad-- vlaustin
Bolton.,,sonsie
In - green,, Smith,, Bauer- grey, - tresize

 

[tigers12]

Mansell was not a passenger. We need a 2nd small forward to help him out. He was the only one applying pressure in there. Campbell was horrible today.

Was Campbell playing I seriously didn’t know he was
Coulthard should be playing instead

 

[Coach_Required]

Dusty past it, should think about giving it up. Bolton is elsewhere and mind not on the game.
Love our defense, getting better every day.

taranto biggest spud user of the footy, Please give me the inside 50 disposal stats and everything else,
I cant wait to see the sats you guys bring up. His only great contribution is he gets the ball a lot and sometimes kicks a goal while pressing up forwards.
Useless disposer of the ball and we realy is a nothing player as a mid.
Then we wonder why carlton ran over the top of us, Because they have mids that can use the footy.

The real disappointing thing about Dusty is he can no longer shrug off an opponent.
Now he looks like he couldn't even have the strength to do a push up.